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Old 18.05.2018, 22:28
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

It's clear that Hamas , and even the PLO are less than savoury organizations - Yet Corbyn's labour supports them 100% .

If tomorrow North Korea will attack Israel (again) - will Corbyn invite Kim for tea or just find good words to say about his new friend ?
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Old 19.05.2018, 00:39
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Egypt’s president, Abdel-Fatah al-Sisi, announced he had ordered the opening of the Rafah border crossing with Gaza for the whole of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, the longest period of access since 2013.

He wrote on his official Twitter account late on Thursday that the opening would “alleviate the burdens of the brothers in the Gaza Strip”.

The Rafah crossing is Gaza’s main gate to the outside world. Egypt has kept Rafah largely sealed off since 2013, when the elected president Mohamed Morsi was removed from power.

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If the Palestinians have any sense then they will take the opportunity to leave Gaza and not come back.

However the lists of who are allowed to leave are provided by Hamas officials who presumably ensure sufficient family members are held as hostages to ensure people do not leave permanently.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

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To describe 10 children, an 8 month old baby and a double amputee in a wheelchair as terrorists is a disgusting slander even by your very low standards. This was murder by an indifferent army and if there were any justice in the world they would be on trial.



Even the Egyptian army and police managed to quell riots in Tahrir with rubber bullets, riot shields and water cannon. I guess the difference is they don't regard their own people as subhuman.
The better question is what was a a 10 year old child and an 8 month old baby doing anywhere near the border riots? This video of a Palestinian father trying to provoke his 3 year oldish son to run to the Israeli soldiers with the hopes that the child will be shot and killed. Can anyone with a heart, especially parents, support this video? This is not an isolated incident. I can post video after video from Palestinian state television and school programs where they indoctrinate children with hate.

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The better question is what was a a 10 year old child and an 8 month old baby doing anywhere near the border riots? This video of a Palestinian father trying to provoke his 3 year oldish son to run to the Israeli soldiers with the hopes that the child will be shot and killed. Can anyone with a heart, especially parents, support this video? This is not an isolated incident. I can post video after video from Palestinian state television and school programs where they indoctrinate children with hate.
I don't think the father tried to have his child killed, I think he knew very well the child will be safe. While I can have sympathy for Palestinian people, I don't think building resentments and psychological barriers is the way to go. I feel sorry for the poor little chap. It's awful, but yes, hatred can be taught. This child will be traumatised for the rest of his life.
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This video was also a good'un.

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Old 22.05.2018, 11:46
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The better question is what was a a 10 year old child and an 8 month old baby doing anywhere near the border riots? This video of a Palestinian father trying to provoke his 3 year oldish son to run to the Israeli soldiers with the hopes that the child will be shot and killed. Can anyone with a heart, especially parents, support this video? This is not an isolated incident. I can post video after video from Palestinian state television and school programs where they indoctrinate children with hate.
Can you imagine what kind of daily living hell would make a person do that?
An unsanitary prison with little running water or electricity and the stench of sewage stinging the nostrils and spreading disease. All hope has now been abandoned in Gaza as suicides surge especially among the young. As one fatalistic young man put it last week, I'd rather die quickly by IDF bullets than continue to die slowly in Gaza. To add to the obscenity, hundreds of meters away across the border you have the jarring normality of new housing complexes with manicured lawns and happy families. Water that could be used to alleviate the crisis in Gaza is being sprayed on grass.

I don't particularly care to debate this anymore, its OK to be indifferent to whats going on but don't blame the victims.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Gaza is indeed hell. It was hell before 1967 and it's hell now.
Hamas and PLO misrule brought it to where it is now. Had the Gazans chosen peace and free trade Gaza could have been a great place to be.

Northern Sinai, just east of Gaza is a hellish war zone - even though it has fantastic beaches & enough water. the Egyptains are resposible for that, but becasue Israel can't be blamed it's ignored by the world.

Speaking of misrule - Corbyn's shadow chancellor wants to overthrow capitalism.

How could these people , who combine malice with incompetence be considered legitimate, mainstream opposition ?
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How could these people , who combine malice with incompetence be considered legitimate, mainstream opposition ?
How else do you think May managed to stay prime minister (even if only just). If Labour only got their act together they could achieve so much more.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

If Corbyn would have been competent, the UK would have turned into Venezuela with worse food & weather.
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Which ever way you look at it, this story is hilarious.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

The anti-Semitism accusations don't seem to be going away.

Margaret Hodge stands by anti-Semitism attack on Corbyn

"Dame Margaret Eve Hodge, Lady Hodge, DBE, MP (née Oppenheimer; born 8 September 1944) is a British Labour Party politician who has served as Member of Parliament for Barking since 1994. ... She was born in 1944 in Cairo, Egypt, to Jewish refugee parents Hans Oppenheimer (1908–1985), and his wife Lisbeth (née Hollitscher)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge
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And so they shouldn't.
You can't change an Internationally recogonised definition purely for the purposes of one UK political party. That's bullshit!

How many people are currently serving prison sentences for threats towards Luciana Berger? 3? 4? Yet Corbyn thinks it's ok to mess about with the definition of anti-semitism. Stuff that for a game of soldiers!
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Careers have been ruined by silly Twitting, yet being antisemitic is still acceptable in the UK. Otherwise Corbyn & Co. wuold be long gone.
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... yet being antisemitic is still acceptable in the UK. Otherwise Corbyn & Co. wuold be long gone.
It's not acceptable, hence why we have the debarcle rattling on. Labour is traditionally the party of choice for large swathes of the Jewish populace, but for the second time in his career, Corbyn's direct actions are making Labour unelectable, and for the third time in his career, dividing the party.
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Of course it is. Antisemitism is acceptable throughout Europe, and the United Kingdom is no exception.

Sure, kids have to read Anne Frank's diary at school, and occasionally get to meet (one of a dwindling number of) Holocaust survivors, but apart from that: nah. It's way down the list of things that upset British people.

If antisemitism actually were unacceptable, Jeremy Corbyn wouldn't even have a seat in Parliament, let alone be leader of the Labour Party.

Can you imagine a paedophile in his position? No? There you go, then.
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Of course it is. Antisemitism is acceptable throughout Europe, and the United Kingdom is no exception.
Just because something is happening, doesn't mean that it's acceptable and shouldn't go unchallenged.
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Just because something is happening, doesn't mean that it's acceptable and shouldn't go unchallenged.
Not being challenged much, is it?

An antisemite is one of the most prominent voices in the United Kingdom. A few people have protested about it, made the odd complaint, but there he remains, unrepentant, unsilenced.

Looks pretty acceptable to me.
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Depends on how much attention people pay to Jeremy Corbyn and what he does/says. If they're not paying much attention, maybe they see no reason to protest.
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Depends on how much attention people pay to Jeremy Corbyn and what he does/says. If they're not paying much attention, maybe they see no reason to protest.
Proves my point, really.
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What does the code of conduct that didn't get ditched say about antisemitism?
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