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The parallels with Trump's groundswell of support are staggering. Politicians are after your blind faith and nothing else these days.
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The god-like, rock star status in politics has always been in existence.. the one man political saviour nonsense who will come along and fix it with a wave of their hand. Obama had it (still has) where his faithful flock were/are blind to the fact he is also responsible for the polarization and why the Trumps of the world get elected in the first place.

If Corbyn has a fan club, it is no surprise.. but to suggest in the UK that is why he will be elected is daft when millions of folks on the ground in the NHS: hospitals/services, law enforcement, education are living with years of cutbacks and see the effects and devastation year after year, they will vote for change i.e. Corbyn.. as there is no choice to vote for anything else.

A coalition would have allowed more scope and some balance, but we did not get one.. so we are where we are.
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Old 16.08.2018, 11:33
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You mean to suppress his popularity? I think the media were caught napping when he came out of that snap election with a not-to-shabby result, which put the willies up the Tories and they were forced to get into bed with the DUP.

The Tories have been on the back-foot ever since and Corbyn (for all his faults) was able to capitalise on the chaos.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

No doubt. I think what helped Corbyn is that so many people thought the Tories would batter them in the election. Few thought they would keep their seats, and fewer still that they might win enough to destroy the tory majority.

The fact TMay had to make a grubby backdoor deal with the DUP didn't help their cause.

And since then, they've attacked the man in every possible way imaginable. Has there ever been a case before of the Prime minister mocking the clothes of the leader of the Opposition?

But, until the tories can make the case that Labour policies wont help lower and middle class people, Corbyns support will continue (and possibly even grow). Helping him is the fact that he has far more young people involved - who tend to bring energy and volunteering to politics. The tories are better funded, but not necessarily better resourced.
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You can sympathise with a cause whilst having no truck with violence. If you were to look up 'pacifist' in the dictionary you would see his beardy face.


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Old 18.08.2018, 18:51
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Not only that, it's the way they've gone after the Press on the matter too. I'm just waiting for someone to scream "FAKE NEWS!" and the circle will be complete.
Where have you been hiding the last 2 weeks? Those allegations have been all over social media. Just a couple of problems with any allegations of 'fake news', and that's the actual sources for the story being 1) text supplied by Corbyn's article on The Morning Star, 2) photo taken from the Palestinian Embassy's website. Yes, I love chucking these facts in the faces of Momentum types. As for all other Labour voters, please, I implore you, get a new leader for the sake of the party, the sake of British politics and the sake of the country.
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Old 18.08.2018, 19:10
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As for all other Labour voters, please, I implore you, get a new leader for the sake of the party, the sake of British politics and the sake of the country.
If only we could be as pragmatic as the Tories eh? They all hate May, but put on somewhat of a united front in attacking Labour.
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Old 18.08.2018, 19:29
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If only we could be as pragmatic as the Tories eh? They all hate May, but put on somewhat of a united front in attacking Labour.
There's a thing called creative criticism. The torys will always be a ball of shite. My own party has largely gone to pieces, and your party is turning into a ball of shite also. Do you honestly think I'm in any way happy with this state of affairs? It's bloody grim on all fronts...and that's putting it mildly.

One difference between Labour and the torys at the moment...

May = useful idiot
Corbyn = useless idiot
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Old 19.08.2018, 11:07
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May = useful idiot
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Surely a Useful idiot is far more dangerous than a Useless one
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Old 19.08.2018, 11:41
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Corbyn is not an idiot - he is an Antisemite who lied about his contacts to terrorists ("Present but not invloved" indeed), supports the Mullahs in Iran and his ideas about economy are extreme left.

Labour is led by the left's version of EDL.
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Old 19.08.2018, 15:24
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Surely a Useful idiot is far more dangerous than a Useless one
Can we not hope for a proper leader who will support the people and business equally? Someone who can stand on the World stage without having eggs thrown at them? Someone...dare I even say it...who we can all respect?

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Corbyn is not an idiot - .
Oh he is, and has proved so on many occasions, most notably in his stumbling opening remarks at almost every single PMQ session of the last 18mths. Every time the government's actions in the preceding week have presented him with an open goal, he's run away from it and asked some banal question about a housing estate in Bridlington, or some other such drivel.

If you get too hung up on his terrorist connections, alleged or proven (as there are so damned many to choose from), you'll entirely miss the true failing of this man, he has no leadership skills.

When he was elected leader, I remember reading that he was the chair, vice chair, or on the board of well over 150 action groups and such. That's on top of being a full-time MP for a busy north London constiuency. The man is a back benches rebel without a clue who has spent his entire life taking up niche causes. Well I'm sorry Jezza fans. This is big league now and he's simply not up to the job.

There currently isn't a single party leader in UK politics, who is worthy to represent their party. Not one! That's got to change. May would be far happier running through Alpine fields, and Corbyn would be far happier living in a hut in Venezuela, and I'm all for people being happy
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Old 19.08.2018, 22:15
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When he was elected leader, I remember reading that he was the chair, vice chair, or on the board of well over 150 action groups and such. That's on top of being a full-time MP for a busy north London constiuency. The man is a back benches rebel without a clue who has spent his entire life taking up niche causes. Well I'm sorry Jezza fans. This is big league now and he's simply not up to the job
EXACTLY.. rewind the clock back to when a bunch of Labour MPs (sensible ones like Margaret Beckett) thought it would be a damn good wheeze to propel Jezza into an otherwise boring leadership election to stir things up a bit. And rather than say, 'No Ta I'm busy saving Peruvian alpaca farmers' Jezza was a good enough sport to say, 'go on then'

Nobody thought the Member for Caracas East would ever win, least of all Jezza himself. So yes he lacks many of the requisite skills of party leader but high office was never his ambition. And now that he is in place, his quirky style and straight talking seems to have struck a chord with the electorate, much to the chagrin of people like you
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Old 19.08.2018, 22:37
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Corbyn was caught lying, so much for "straight talking" . Castro is showing willful ignorance yet again.
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... much to the chagrin of people like you
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Would you care to quantify that remark?

I don't 'play' politics, same as I don't play with people's lives, jobs, money, blah-di-blah-di-blah, etc... I've seen people get brainwashed by the hysterical hype surrounding Corbyn (including my own brother) and it sickens me that this happened when the country was facing it's biggest decisions, challenges and changes in 40+yrs.

Every party (except perhaps UKIP) is bigger than any single member or MP, and the country is bigger than any one party. While Labour are busy wasting time and imploding to defend one man, the country is going to hell in a tory designed handcart. We've got the unelected Farage weaseling his way back to warn us about the threat of unelected European politicians (oh the irony...), a party that isn't fit to govern and is only one death in service away from being a minority, and a party that could/should be fit to lead but not with the leader they currently have.

Every other party is dead in the water and nobody gives a flying eff about the 47%.

Do you honestly believe that's a healthy state of affairs for any country? Where's the gumption? Where's the leadership? Where's the solidarity? All I see is SWP rejects hiding behind Momentum vs the creatures emerging from under the stone shifted by BoJo (check his twitter feed comments for evidence of that). The majority of the populace are drifting on a life raft of what was once, sanity, whilst the scum of the earth are rising to the top and swimming around them.

Labour have the wrong Jezza to sort this shite out. They need Jeremy Kyle!
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Corbyn was caught lying, so much for "straight talking" .
All politicians lie or are economical with the truth to some degree. As reiterated by Adam Hills on 'The Last Leg', the problem with Corbyn is that, whilst he's spent his career sharing a paltform with known terrorists and terrorist sympathisers 'in an effort to end hostilities', he absolutely refused to share a platform with opposition MPs and party leaders who were part of the Remain campaign.
Just let that sink in for a moment....

If ever there was a warped set of moral ideals, that's a fine example of it.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

The internet was jumping around that Corbyn had won the Nobel Peace prize at the weekend.

Internet gets things wrong now and again.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Corbyn shows his irritation in this interview, even rolling his eyes skywards at one point. It's interactions like these that make me think he's not as humble as he'd like to appear.

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Corbyn shows his irritation in this interview, even rolling his eyes skywards at one point. It's interactions like these that make me think he's not as humble as he'd like to appear.

To be fair, she is a pretty irritating interviewer.

My question is, though, why on earth an insignificant (at the time) member of the British parliament felt he needed to be involved in the "dialogue" for peace in Israel/Palestine?

I'd have thought they'd already had quite enough British involvement already...
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

more lies an obfuscation from the "straight talking" dear leader - the 1985 attack on the PLO headquarters was "unprovoked" - murdering Jews on Yom Kippur is, according to Corbyn, not a provocation. Murder being a common method of his friends & "brothers"
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Hamas salutes Corbyn

Nothing says "Pacifist" more than being saluted by Islamist thugs.
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