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Old 23.04.2019, 14:19
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

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Is the Israeli gov't still paying pro Israeli organisations and keeping people on its UK embassy payroll that drive smearing campaigns against politicians who are not favorable to the current Israel's agenda?
There is no need, Labour (and Poland) is doing a perfectly good job smearing itself.
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Old 24.04.2019, 08:24
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There is no need, Labour (and Poland) is doing a perfectly good job smearing itself.
Same case for that ritual in Poland. You have literally the last vestige of some old tradition born even maybe in the times when most of the Jews found a refuge in Eastern Europe, and which (the tradition) has passes away as most of the folklore long ago, and suddenly a Jewish organisation presses all the press levers to spin it completely out of context (a 2000 year old story revival) to today's one.
If you're so smart, maybe have a look at causal, everyday anti semitism in the streets of France or Germany, or their current day national socialists going in the streets with banners:

"Ich bereue nicht".

Guess they don't mean Judas Iscariot role played 2000 years ago, right?

https://www.google.de/search?tbm=isc...mg._KLb7PqQmC0

But the point is that the anti semitic smear supposedly stopped working as much as it was before, so the UK lobby has to figure out a new one. Korbyn is not an Arab or a muslim so they can't call him a terrorist...
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Old 18.05.2019, 21:59
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

A bit dated but not outdated:
Netanyahu:
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Hitler Didn't Want to Exterminate the Jews
Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews, but Jerusalem's Grand Mufti convinced him to exterminate them
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...uilt-1.5411578
I'm loving it how the alleged antisemitism or holocaust denial accusations are used when it is convenient.
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Old 21.05.2019, 11:09
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Hamas thanked Corbyn for his support. I'm sure the feeling is mutual - otherwise he would be quick to renounce the Islamist terrorist organization. he didn't.
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Old 21.05.2019, 12:25
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otherwise he would be quick to renounce the Islamist terrorist organization.
Except that Hamas is not a terrorist organisation, Izz ad-Din al-Qassam is. Now I don't condone violence, but given the about to BS broadcast in UK politics, it is important to keep it real. Hamas has been recognised by many international organisations etc... so why should he specifically get called up when no one else is????
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Old 21.05.2019, 12:33
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Except that Hamas is not a terrorist organisation?
The EU, US & common sense disagree - Hamas is hiding behind Arab civilans to shoot at Israeli civilians - A double terrorist act.


Corbyn has been a supporter of Hamas for many years.
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Old 21.05.2019, 12:50
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The EU, US & common sense disagree - Hamas is hiding behind Arab civilans to shoot at Israeli civilians - A double terrorist act.


Corbyn has been a supporter of Hamas for many years.
In my eyes there is very little difference between Israel and Hamas it comes to violence. And it will continue until the international community stops taking sides and insists that they sit down and come to a solution.
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Old 21.05.2019, 13:00
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In my eyes there is very little difference between Israel and Hamas it comes to violence. And it will continue until the international community stops taking sides and insists that they sit down and come to a solution.
Oh yes, the old "they are all the same" argument when facts contradict your opinon.

Hamas is Islamist, genocidal organization which doesn't accept any opposition. Israel is a democratic state which paid a heavy price for peace.

if your eyes don't see the difference - there is a solution.
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Old 21.05.2019, 16:00
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Israel is a democratic state which paid a heavy price for peace.
Isreael is an exclusive "Nation-State of the Jewish People", a form that is beyond any acceptability anywhere else in the Western world. This is as if US declared itself white-people democracy.

Wikipedia reference-linkBasic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People

And this is the "peace" process of Israel, or rather piecemeal annexation through "settlements" of the remaining Palestinian land:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...d-barack-obama

Now to "democracy", from the above link:
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“What a One State Reality Looks Like,” and included a bullet point that read, “In the combined areas of Israel, Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, Jews no longer represent the majority.”
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Old 21.05.2019, 16:07
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

The Jews are a nation as well as a religion. Italy is the State of the italian nation, Israel is the state of the Jewish nation.

Non Jewish citizens of Israel have the same civil rights as Jews.

Hamas openly expresses it's Genocidal agenda and Corbyn still supports it.
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The Jews are a nation as well as a religion. Italy is the State of the italian nation, Israel is the state of the Jewish nation.

Non Jewish citizens of Israel have the same civil rights as Jews.
Italy is the state of the Italian citizens, not of Italians only, and only about 10% are not citizens and if they're legally there (a majority of these 5mln) they can freely live, work, travel and eventually obtain the Italian citizenship.

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Hamas openly expresses it's Genocidal agenda and Corbyn still supports it.
Have you seen the pictures of bloodbath of children killed by disproportional Israeli response?!
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Old 21.05.2019, 16:42
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

In Israel non Jews are Supreme court judges, ministers, generals, hold high posts in Academia & business. maybe one day Poland will reach that level. I'm not holding my breath though.

Israel's repsonse to the violent riots with thousands who openly claim they want to "rip a Jew's head off" in Gaza is very limited.
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In Israel non Jews are Supreme court judges, ministers, generals, hold high posts in Academia & business.
Except that half of the residents is stripped of any basic rights.

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maybe one day Poland will reach that level. I'm not holding my breath though.
The biggest Polish daily is openly pro-Jewish as are most politicians despite a very tainted past track record:

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The [Jew-communism] stereotype was again reinforced by the prominent role of a small number of Jews in Poland's Stalinist regime: 37.1% of postwar Poland's Security Office and Communist authorities were of Jewish origin, a group that was less than 1%. It was described in intelligence reports as very loyal to the Soviets.
And you know what the role of "Security Office" was - extermination of dissidents, tens of thousands of them.

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Israel's repsonse to the violent riots with thousands who openly claim they want to "rip a Jew's head off" in Gaza is very limited.
Some call it as it should be called: state terrorism:

Wikipedia reference-linkDahiya_doctrine
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Old 22.05.2019, 09:09
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

You didn't address the simple issue: Poland has practically only white, catholic, polish speaking people in positions of power and authority. Israel is much more diverse.

Poland killed and expelled minorities in times of peace - Israel didn't.
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Old 22.05.2019, 09:15
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You didn't address the simple issue: Poland has practically only white, catholic, polish speaking people in positions of power and authority. Israel is much more diverse.
Isn't that just your subjective (and probably biased) opinion, though?
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Old 22.05.2019, 09:22
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Isn't that just your subjective (and probably biased) opinion, though?
Feel free to provide examples to refute my claim.
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Old 22.05.2019, 09:30
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Feel free to provide examples to refute my claim.
Luckily in the real world that's not how it works. You claim something, you back it up otherwise it's just nonsense biased opinion. I don't have to provide anything to refute your subjective opinion.

Your opinion seems to be the bulk of your posting on this thread.
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Isn't that just your subjective (and probably biased) opinion, though?
From Wikipedia:

Poland Ethnic Groups:
98% Polish
2% others or not stated

Israel Ethnic Groups:
74.2% Jewish
20.9% Arab
4.8% other

So yeah, he’s right.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

You confuse "Claim" (I.e. "The K2 is the highest mountain on earth") with "Opinion" (i.e "The Everest the most beutiful mountain on earth").
A claim can be refuted by facts (find another mountain which is taller - the Everest), an opinion can't.

If you can provide the names of non- white,catholic,polish speaking people in positions of power in Poland you can refute my claim. if you can't - my claim stands.
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You confuse "Claim" (I.e. "The K2 is the highest mountain on earth") with "Opinion" (i.e "The Everest the most beutiful mountain on earth").
A claim can be refuted by facts (find another mountain which is taller - the Everest), an opinion can't.

If you can provide the names of non- white,catholic,polish speaking people in positions of power in Poland you can refute my claim. if you can't - my claim stands.
Look if Loz can manage to cobble a few facts and figs together, surely you can do it?
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