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Old 22.05.2019, 09:43
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

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Old 22.05.2019, 09:53
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

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Look if Loz can manage to cobble a few facts and figs together, surely you can do it?
Which facts and figures do you want ? it would be much easier for you to find facts and figures to refute my claim - name the people who don't fit my claim.
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Old 22.05.2019, 10:03
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Which facts and figures do you want ? it would be much easier for you to find facts and figures to refute my claim - name the people who don't fit my claim.
I think the real reason is that you don't like being questioned on your posts. You make wild claims (or opinions as they actually are), someone calls you out on them then your best line of defence is to turn it around to them telling them to find evidence that their claim/opinion is wrong. WTF? What kind of a dumb response is that?

It's like arguing with a 9 year old.

You are HEAVILY biased towards Israel and rarely come up with anything even resembling fact or substance to back up your posts.

Carry on - it's a masterclass on how not to debate.
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Old 22.05.2019, 10:10
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I think the real reason is that you don't like being questioned on your posts.
Wrong - I welcome questions and try to answer them as best I can.
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You make wild claims (or opinions as they actually are), someone calls you out on them then your best line of defence is to turn it around to them telling them to find evidence that their claim/opinion is wrong. WTF? What kind of a dumb response is that?
It's not dumb - If I make a wrong claim, you should be able to refute it. Again - Which kind of facts and figures will satisfy you ?

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You rarely come up with anything even resembling fact or substance to back up your posts.
Here is your chance to shine - please provide 2 posts of mine which you can refute with facts and where I didn't apologize for getting them wrong.
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Old 22.05.2019, 10:28
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Wrong - I welcome questions and try to answer them as best I can.
Is that a claim or an opinion?

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It's not dumb - If I make a wrong claim, you should be able to refute it. Again - Which kind of facts and figures will satisfy you ?
I asked you to back up your post, that was all. Fortunately Loz was able to provide the information you clearly couldn't find.

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Here is your chance to shine - please provide 2 posts of mine which you can refute with facts and where I didn't apologize for getting them wrong.
WTF are you smoking? Why do I need to shine? I'm not the one spouting unsubstantiated bullshit, trying to convince everyone that Israel is pure as the driven snow and never puts a foot wrong.

My original comment was not refuting your claim/opinion:

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Isn't that just your subjective (and probably biased) opinion, though?
Where is the "refuting" in that? It's more "asking for clarification" than "refuting" but feel free to get all defensive and twist my words if it makes you feel more comfortable and gets you off the hook.
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Old 22.05.2019, 12:01
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Again you make unsubstantiated claims - please provide 2 examples where I "spouted bullshit". I make mistakes, just like anyone else. when someone provides proof that my posts are wrong I apologize.

If you can't provide them, I think an apology is in order.

Israel is not "pure as the driven snow" - it's human and fallible. It is, however, much more humane than any of it's neighbors and a lot less vile than the way Yacek tries to portray it.
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Old 22.05.2019, 12:06
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Again you make unsubstantiated claims - please provide 2 examples where I "spouted bullshit". I make mistakes, just like anyone else. when someone provides proof that my posts are wrong I apologize.

If you can't provide them, I think an apology is in order.

Israel is not "pure as the driven snow" - it's human and fallible. It is, however, much more humane than any of it's neighbors and a lot less vile than the way Yacek tries to portray it.
Still deflecting this then, eh?

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Isn't that just your subjective (and probably biased) opinion, though?
If you want examples of your bullshit, just pick through any of your posts. You don't need me to paste them. Take your pick, any will do.

No idea why you are asking for an apology from someone just asking for clarification, unless...
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Old 22.05.2019, 12:56
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Still deflecting this then, eh?
You don't know the difference between a claim and an opinion nor the difference between refuting and deflecting. Perhaps English is too difficult for you.


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If you want examples of your bullshit, just pick through any of your posts. You don't need me to paste them. Take your pick, any will do.

No idea why you are asking for an apology from someone just asking for clarification, unless...
Let's turn it around : Assuming someone would say "Sandgrounder's posts are rude to Women". Wouldn't you ask for proof or an apology ?
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Old 22.05.2019, 13:09
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You don't know the difference between a claim and an opinion nor the difference between refuting and deflecting. Perhaps English is too difficult for you.
Still can't back up your posts, then. Come on, I thought you were Israel's EF cheerleader. Never mind - it's clear you've got nothing so just drop it. Loz covered it pages ago anyway. You should move onto your next wild set of statements.

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Let's turn it around : Assuming someone would say "Sandgrounder's posts are rude to Women". Wouldn't you ask for proof or an apology ?
I can be rude to anyone, regardless of gender, colour or creed. The common denominator you are looking for is that they all fall under the "acting like an arse" category. Surely that's evident?

I don't need your apology because I'm not that tragic.
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Old 22.05.2019, 13:13
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

I agree - this discussion isn't going anywhere.

You are, as usual, welcome to point out inaccuracies in past or future posts.
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Old 28.05.2019, 13:10
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Today the Equality and Human Rights Commission have commenced an investigation into whether The Labour Party has unlawfully discriminated against, harassed or victimised people because they are Jewish.

The only other political party ever to be subject to a formal investigation by the EHRC is the BNP. Bravo Jeremy!

Investigation opened into The Labour Party following complaints about antisemitism
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Old 28.05.2019, 16:18
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Of course it is.

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You know very well the difference between ethnicity and citizenship, don't pretend there's none. Of course, technically all citizens are equal, regardless of their ethnicity or religion.
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Old 28.05.2019, 16:57
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Today the Equality and Human Rights Commission have commenced an investigation into whether The Labour Party has unlawfully discriminated against, harassed or victimised people because they are Jewish.

The only other political party ever to be subject to a formal investigation by the EHRC is the BNP. Bravo Jeremy!

Investigation opened into The Labour Party following complaints about antisemitism
You did well to find it - the BBC hid it at the bottom of UK political news, next to MCB complaint about Tory Islamophobia.
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Old 28.05.2019, 17:07
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You did well to find it - the BBC hid it at the bottom of UK political news, next to MCB complaint about Tory Islamophobia.
Why do you even bother with the BBC site when it's been notoriously slow in reporting breaking news for a few years now. I've barely used it since 2015. Sky news ran it as a continuous Breaking News banner for a fair while, until it was overshadowed by another Labour related story.

Word to the wise, Sky and Reuters are the way to go if you want fast information.
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Old 29.05.2019, 06:31
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Word to the wise, Sky and Reuters are the way to go if you want fast information.
Fast maybe, but biased. I don't have any idea whose agenda they follow, but it's definitely not a "pure news" agency. Well, like all of them.


The reality is, where news are concerned, we're all in the dark. We only get what some individuals decide we should get. In which purpose, who knows. Sometimes they even invent "news". I'm sorry I don't idealise any of them these days, but I did watch what they cover over the years and I've made my fair assessments.

Off topic anyway....sort of.
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Old 29.05.2019, 10:33
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Word to the wise, Sky and Reuters are the way to go if you want fast information.
I actually picked up several breaking news pieces on Facebook or on forums before any of the mainstream sources had them. Admittedly some of these sources were questionable and details sketchy or wrong, but just measured by how I first heard the news, that is where it was.

The notre Dame fire, may’s resignation , are just some examples
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Old 01.06.2019, 18:12
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Another one.
You get kicked out of Labour for voting for another party, but only suspended for being an Antisemite.
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Old 12.07.2019, 12:59
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Antisemitism still a feature of Corbyn's Labour.

Probably because it's not hurting Labour at the polls.
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Old 12.07.2019, 13:56
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Probably because it's not hurting Labour at the polls.
Are you suggesting British people are anti-semitic or just Labour voters?
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Are you suggesting British people are anti-semitic or just Labour voters?
labour hard left voters, which is Corbyn's core support. Anyway Labour are getting a kicking at the polls from what I understood and the anti semite stuff is a good piece of it.
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