Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #821  
Old 14.07.2019, 11:35
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
Looks like the Tories are suffering from that ‘poison at the ballot box’ thing, too...

Vote Greens? LibDems? Is the Monster Raving Loony Party still a thing?
Operation whatabouterry from Labour HQ in full swing then. I don’t know what’s funnier, that they think it’ll stuff works, or that they’re comparing “Islamophobia” to the antisemitism rife in the Labour Party.
  #822  
Old 14.07.2019, 12:03
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 13,934
Groaned at 128 Times in 119 Posts
Thanked 26,161 Times in 10,040 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
Operation whatabouterry from Labour HQ in full swing then. I don’t know what’s funnier, that they think it’ll stuff works, or that they’re comparing “Islamophobia” to the antisemitism rife in the Labour Party.
Not sure why you find it funny when people are judging which religious group is the most aggrieved or who has dibs on being the most outraged. Why is one religious group more important than another in politics?

From my point of view all religions are equally moronic and it’s madness that it’s allowed to dominate politics in this way but, hey, seems to be important to some people.

It’s a shame there are no adults in politics these days.

What is funny is the ‘whataboutary’ bleating seems to now be the right-wing version of the left’s ‘SJW’ label.
  #823  
Old 14.07.2019, 12:11
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
Not sure why you find it funny when people are judging which religious group is the most aggrieved or who has dibs on being the most outraged. Why is one religious group more important than another in politics?

From my point of view all religions are equally moronic and it’s madness that it’s allowed to dominate politics in this way but, hey, seems to be important to some people.

It’s a shame there are no adults in politics these days.
That’s the point! The only people judging which religious group is most aggrieved is the Labour Party and its members. It’s why it takes the “what about” approach. There is no comparison to be made with expressing anti-Islamic sentiments and the hounding of the Jewish Labour Party members that has taken place simply because they’re Jewish.
  #824  
Old 14.07.2019, 17:18
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,361
Groaned at 98 Times in 63 Posts
Thanked 1,404 Times in 813 Posts
yacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

It is not about Corbyn's antisemitism but all about Labour stance on Iran.
https://www.thejc.com/comment/commen...facts-1.485661
This user would like to thank yacek for this useful post:
  #825  
Old 15.07.2019, 10:58
Pashosh's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Baden
Posts: 474
Groaned at 205 Times in 152 Posts
Thanked 1,755 Times in 960 Posts
Pashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthy
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
It is not about Corbyn's antisemitism but all about Labour stance on Iran.
https://www.thejc.com/comment/commen...facts-1.485661
Corbyn has for decades idealized & supported anti-west dictators. This group overlaps nicely with antisemites. Hence the positive attitude of Labour leadership to racists as long as they are racist toward the "right" groups.
The following 2 users would like to thank Pashosh for this useful post:
  #826  
Old 15.07.2019, 21:36
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,361
Groaned at 98 Times in 63 Posts
Thanked 1,404 Times in 813 Posts
yacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

AIPAC: Nuclear Deal with Iran
Here are top 3 position papers from AIPAC at the above page:
  • Nuclear Deal With Iran: A Critical Vote
  • Analysis: An Unacceptable Deal
  • Congress Must Reject This Deal
The section title is also telling:
"AIPAC worked with Democrats and Republicans in Congress to monitor Iran’s compliance with the deal and to ensure that Iran could not develop nuclear weapons."

It is not that AIPAC just advocated, supported, opinionated. No, "AIPAC worked with Democrats and Republicans in Congress".

Israel embassies and Israel-friendly "NGOs" in US and UK use, among others, smears of antisemitism to discredit activists and politicians unfavourable to Israel's agenda. Therefore anything will be spun completely out of context and proportion if it can advance given agenda and intimidate such activists or politicians.

Therefore articles criticising Labour stance on Iran nuclear deal evoke alleged Labour antisemitism.
The attacks on the oil tankers in the Hormuz strait and US quick jump to conclusion met suspicion of many participants on this forum. Well, it turns out that it must be a forum full of antisemites, because that's how Labour's calls for restraint were judged.
  #827  
Old 15.07.2019, 22:42
Pashosh's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Baden
Posts: 474
Groaned at 205 Times in 152 Posts
Thanked 1,755 Times in 960 Posts
Pashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthy
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

You managed to get in a lot of strawman arguments in one post.

We've discussed them before, do try to keep up.
  #828  
Old 16.07.2019, 13:34
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Irony alive and well at Corbyn HQ.

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/sta...39912176693250
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #829  
Old 16.07.2019, 14:06
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,361
Groaned at 98 Times in 63 Posts
Thanked 1,404 Times in 813 Posts
yacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
Boris Johnson meeting with Steve Bannon was considered endorsement of the worst type of racist and, yes, antisemitic propaganda. Suddenly neither Trump nor Boris Johnson are a problem anymore when they happen to plan an Iran "regime change".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antise...#Boris_Johnson
  #830  
Old 16.07.2019, 14:12
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
Boris Johnson meeting with Steve Bannon was considered endorsement of the worst type of racist and, yes, antisemitic propaganda. Suddenly neither Trump nor Boris Johnson are a problem anymore when they happen to plan an Iran "regime change".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antise...#Boris_Johnson
What is this, Racist Top Trumps? I’m afraid meeting someone accused of being a racist is trumped by being investigated for actual racism.
  #831  
Old 16.07.2019, 17:47
Pashosh's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Baden
Posts: 474
Groaned at 205 Times in 152 Posts
Thanked 1,755 Times in 960 Posts
Pashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthy
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
In the mean time Johnson condemned Trump's Twitts.

Jeremy has yet to condem his friends from Hizbullah & Hamas for their recent Genocidal intentions, as proclaimed in recent interviews.
In fact, one of his front benchers is following in his footsteps and hosted an antisemite in parliament.
  #832  
Old 17.07.2019, 12:16
amogles's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 10,926
Groaned at 215 Times in 182 Posts
Thanked 21,015 Times in 8,958 Posts
amogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
Boris Johnson meeting with Steve Bannon was considered endorsement of the worst type of racist and, yes, antisemitic propaganda. Suddenly neither Trump nor Boris Johnson are a problem anymore when they happen to plan an Iran "regime change".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antise...#Boris_Johnson
So wanting a regime change in Iran is anti-semitic?
  #833  
Old 18.07.2019, 13:13
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,361
Groaned at 98 Times in 63 Posts
Thanked 1,404 Times in 813 Posts
yacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
So wanting a regime change in Iran is anti-semitic?
Anti-semitic is anything that doesn't suit current Israel's agenda.
E.g. currently Holocaust is to be blamed on the Palestinians, not the Germans, according to the Israel's prime minister.
  #834  
Old 18.07.2019, 13:45
Pashosh's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Baden
Posts: 474
Groaned at 205 Times in 152 Posts
Thanked 1,755 Times in 960 Posts
Pashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthy
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
Anti-semitic is anything that doesn't suit current Israel's agenda.
E.g. currently Holocaust is to be blamed on the Palestinians, not the Germans, according to the Israel's prime minister.
That's what the Corbynistas are saying - "We are not antisemitic, we are critical of Israel". It was proven wrong so many times, but repeat a lie enough times and...

And no - Israel doesn't blame the Palestinians for the Holocaust, but the Germans and their helpers.
This user would like to thank Pashosh for this useful post:
  #835  
Old 31.07.2019, 15:40
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,695
Groaned at 356 Times in 307 Posts
Thanked 14,245 Times in 7,822 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

© Telegraph (old cartoon!)
Attachment 137329
  #836  
Old 31.07.2019, 15:44
amogles's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 10,926
Groaned at 215 Times in 182 Posts
Thanked 21,015 Times in 8,958 Posts
amogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
And no - Israel doesn't blame the Palestinians for the Holocaust, but the Germans and their helpers.
some of whom just happened to be P...., oh soddit.
  #837  
Old 31.07.2019, 16:18
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Formerly in Neuchatel
Posts: 2,820
Groaned at 220 Times in 149 Posts
Thanked 4,988 Times in 1,932 Posts
porsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Quote:
View Post
So wanting a regime change in Iran is anti-semitic?
Asking this question itself is anti-semitic!?!?
  #838  
Old 31.07.2019, 21:06
Pashosh's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Baden
Posts: 474
Groaned at 205 Times in 152 Posts
Thanked 1,755 Times in 960 Posts
Pashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthy
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Corbyn's labour chooses an antisemite as MP candidate
What a surprise.
  #839  
Old 23.09.2019, 14:44
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geneva
Posts: 692
Groaned at 62 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 1,098 Times in 633 Posts
Reb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Labour pledges to abolish private schools after vote at conference

Not surprising, I suppose, since independent- and grammar-school-educated Corbyn apparently wanted his own son to attend a failing comprehensive rather than a selective grammar.

1999 MP [Jeremy Corbyn] and wife split over school
  #840  
Old 15.11.2019, 11:26
Pashosh's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Baden
Posts: 474
Groaned at 205 Times in 152 Posts
Thanked 1,755 Times in 960 Posts
Pashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthyPashosh is considered unworthy
Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Sad that this has to be repeated, But having an Antisemite is bad enough as an MP, but a potential PM is terrible. At least some people are aware.
This user would like to thank Pashosh for this useful post:
This user groans at Pashosh for this post:
Closed Thread




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another great Jeremy Corbyn idea! Hausamsee International affairs/politics 93 04.09.2017 17:17
Corbyn Struts His Stuff! Merrylegs International affairs/politics 28 21.06.2017 13:47
SBB causes huge noise by doing night work and refuses to compensate inhabitants smalljimmy Complaints corner 4 29.09.2013 18:50
Hamas chief meets Swiss envoy in Cairo The Local Swiss news via The Local 0 19.01.2012 12:17
2 person rental agreement and other party refuses to sign termination piazza Housing in general 24 11.01.2012 19:01


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:14.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0