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when the finance world collapsed in 2008 and QE was given out by the billions from taxpayers pockets there was little descent from the BBC.
Remind me again - who was in power at the time of the financial collapse?
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Corbyn IS on the right path (hes pissing many off) and he should be MORE radical. People want their country back and I unfortunately don't think he has the balls (not Ed) to carry it through.
That's the best thing about the Corbyn phenomenon, so many of his disciples actually believe this. Despite what the polls, commentators and the media say, they really believe he's on the right track. It's destroying the party but he's carrying on regardless.

And there is no Right Wing/Murdoch owned media grand agenda. The BBC has far more reach and influence than all the rest of the newspapers put together. This is nothing more than a convenient excuse when people don't vote how Labour supporters think they should.
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Remind me again - who was in power at the time of the financial collapse?
Doesn't matter who was in power they were talking for the right wing interests in the city of London, just like when Brown sold the gold to support the Rothschild over exposure. New Labour in 2008 = Tory
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1. I do not think that Apartheid SA was "a bit like Cuba".
2. Hamas is both a terrorist organisation as well as the democratically elected government of Gaza for the last ten years. While everyone mentions the terrorist bit does this part somehow always get forgotten... so yes, I think it is totally normal that a western politician talks to them, because they are the political representatives of most Palestinians. If you want peace or in fact anything in the region to happen can you not just ignore them.
Hamas is democratically elected 10 years ago......so when's the next election lol?! Just saying. Oh and didn't they kill most of their Fatah opponents in 2007, shooting them and throwing them off tops of buildings. Their charter states the complete destruction of Israel, as well as the Jews.

When was Abbas elected? Like Never. Just built himself a nice 13 million dollar palace in Ramallah (refugee camp supposedly).
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That's the best thing about the Corbyn phenomenon, so many of his disciples actually believe this. Despite what the polls, commentators and the media say, they really believe he's on the right track. It's destroying the party but he's carrying on regardless.

And there is no Right Wing/Murdoch owned media grand agenda. The BBC has far more reach and influence than all the rest of the newspapers put together. This is nothing more than a convenient excuse when people don't vote how Labour supporters think they should.
Apologies for the 2013 figures, nope no agenda.

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Over three quarters (77.8 per cent) of the press is owned by a handful of billionaires. There are only 88 billionaires among the 63 million people in the UK and most of the barons do not even live in the UK."
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Doesn't matter who was in power they were talking for the right wing interests in the city of London, just like when Brown sold the gold to support the Rothschild over exposure. New Labour in 2008 = Tory
Oh I see - you'll be suggesting Brown was actually a Tory plant hell bent on bringing the Labour party down and making them unelectable for the foreseeable future.

(Alternatively it could be proffered that Labour realized that the only way to get elected was to tell the electorate they'd all be richer under a Labour government and that the never-ending economic growth would both never end and pay for the excess in creating it. Or Tory economic policy without the budget cuts)

The problem Labour have now is that the electorate look at them and think:
- I don't trust your centre/right side because all you did was spend spend spend and have no idea how to pay the bills
- I don't trust your left because I'll be taxed (even) more and won't be able to buy a new television every 2 years on interest free credit - and the DFS sale is on and I fancy a new sofa to watch Sky Sports from.

Labour's image no longer includes "caring" because the perception is that they cared about the wrong things for a long time.

Perhaps if they made it clear that councils would no longer be able to have 30 translators on call from a consulting company and instead councils would provide free childcare to working parents; or ensured the essential council services were provided internally instead of outsourced McClean servicing - with the company's creaming off 25% - people might actually believe the party stood for them.
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Q2 - Are members of internationally recognised terrorist organisations.

A) Allowed to enter the UK?
B) WTF are they doing in Parliament?
a) We let in Nelson Mandela, a convicted terrorist.
b) I'm confused..... do you mean Palestinian parliament (they were elected, that is why they are there) or UK parliament (I'm pretty sure that joining negotiations does not mean joining the group)

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Hamas is democratically elected 10 years ago......so when's the next election lol?! Just saying. Oh and didn't they kill most of their Fatah opponents in 2007, shooting them and throwing them off tops of buildings. Their charter states the complete destruction of Israel, as well as the Jews.

When was Abbas elected? Like Never. Just built himself a nice 13 million dollar palace in Ramallah (refugee camp supposedly).
I never said they are nice guys. But they are the ones who are the political power in Palestine right now. I think an average guy does not vote for Hamas as long as he sees ANY political alternative. Fatah used to be that alternative. They also used to be a terrorist organization and then gave diplomacy a chance. Didn't work, the US and Israel pushed them over... and then complained that Palestinian voters lost trust and looked for an alternative.

You don't want terrorism? Give the people another perspective. But you cannot invade a country, establish a foreign military rule without any plan to give them their independence back, build one settlement after another on their land and clearly establishing facts with walls and highways cutting Palestine in pieces that will not make it possible to have a decent state... and then complain that they start throwing rocks or some home made fire cracker.

Strong forces within Israel have no interest in peace. Why should they as long as you have the military upper hand?
Hamas has no interest in peace as stability would show their incompetence and corruption even more than it does right now. These guys simply cannot run a country.
Hizbolla/Iran has nothing to gain from peace or stability. Being able to point at a common enemy is essential for their own power struggle...
And that's why the Palestinians have to continue to suffer. It's practical for the other people in the region if they continue to do so...

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2M people marched against war in Iraq, how the hell did they get away with it?
Ah yes, the Stop The War coalition, a useful idiots front for Islamists and their Marxist/Trotskyite allies. You'll note Corbyn was chair of this grouping up till late last year.

And they got away with it because in democracy you usually can hold public demonstrations. I don't see Red Ken blocking it back in 2003, that's for sure.
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Apologies for the 2013 figures, nope no agenda.

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"Over a quarter (27.3 per cent) of the press is owned by Lord Rothermere and 24.9 per cent by Rupert Murdoch – between them these two men have over 50 per cent of the printed press.

Over three quarters (77.8 per cent) of the press is owned by a handful of billionaires. There are only 88 billionaires among the 63 million people in the UK and most of the barons do not even live in the UK."
Doesn't matter, printed press is dead. The influence of printed media is lower now than it's ever been. We haz internetz now. Have a read of this:

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...015_report.pdf



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I never said they are nice guys. But they are the ones who are the political power in Palestine right now. I think an average guy does not vote for Hamas as long as he sees ANY political alternative. Fatah used to be that alternative. They also used to be a terrorist organization and then gave diplomacy a chance. Didn't work, the US and Israel pushed them over... and then complained that Palestinian voters lost trust and looked for an alternative.

You don't want terrorism? Give the people another perspective. But you cannot invade a country, establish a foreign military rule without any plan to give them their independence back, build one settlement after another on their land and clearly establishing facts with walls and highways cutting Palestine in pieces that will not make it possible to have a decent state... and then complain that they start throwing rocks or some home made fire cracker.

Strong forces within Israel have no interest in peace. Why should they as long as you have the military upper hand?
Hamas has no interest in peace as stability would show their incompetence and corruption even more than it does right now. These guys simply cannot run a country.
Hizbolla/Iran has nothing to gain from peace or stability. Being able to point at a common enemy is essential for their own power struggle...
And that's why the Palestinians have to continue to suffer. It's practical for the other people in the region if they continue to do so...

Give them their independence back? When exactly did they have it before? Was that under the Egpytian /Jordanian rule when they took over those areas from 48-67 or the British or the Ottomans before that! Their "government" has no interest in peace, they are too busy building tunnels and enjoying the aid money to worry about the people who supposedly elected them. Why does no one ever mention an occupation when Jordan took the west bank....why did they never demand a state during that period? Strong forces in Israel have no interest in peace? Are you joking? Israelis want peace but they do not have a viable partner, or partners to work with. When Abbas is inciting violence and Hamas are firing rockets.

Israel did not "invade" any country, it was defensive measures in a war, so don't distort fact.

Israel has peace with Jordan and Egypt, gave back Gaza and the Sinai. And offered more than 93% of the disputed territory back to Arafat, which was rejected.
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And on the other side we have a party led by Old Etonian, descendant of William IV, son-in-law of a baronet who couldn't be more out of touch with the public if he put on a white glove and called himself Michael Jackson.

This is a party that has systematically failed both the working and middle classes (hence the Daily Mail's abject hatred of Cameron), and I feel physically repulsed when I see that smirking front bench of millionaires, jeering and laughing as the problems of the nation are being read out by the opposition leader. This is the contempt by which they rule, and had Labour had a stronger leader than Miliband they would already have been out on their arses.
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When I was a voter living in the UK t was a question of voting for the least worst
Or, just don't vote. It's not like it has an influence under the current system anyway, unless you're voting for a swing seat and like either Tory or Labour.
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Sigh.....usual right wing paper spin then. He was trying to mediate constructive discussions. In the old days mediation and diplomacy was the correct way to resolve issues, just seems the current method is bomb the shit out of places. 30 years of soldiers in NI worked didn't it?

Quote from Corbyn.

"I spoke at a meeting about the Middle East crisis in parliament and there were people there from Hezbollah and I said I welcomed our friends from Hezbollah to have a discussion and a debate, and I said I wanted Hamas to be part of that debate. I have met Hamas in Lebanon and I've met Hezbollah in this country and Lebanon.

"I'm saying that people I talk to, I use it in a collective way, saying our friends are prepared to talk.

"Does it mean I agree with Hamas and what it does? No. Does it mean I agree with Hezbollah and what they do? No. What it means is that I think to bring about a peace process, you have to talk to people with whom you may profoundly disagree.

"There is not going to be a peace process unless there is talks involving Israel, Hezbollah and Hamas and I think everyone knows that."
Date of this quote and date of the meeting referenced?

To quote Harold Wilson "a week is a long time in politics".

Corbyn has still to explain why he continues to refer to them as "friends"?
Nobody has objected to Corbyn talking to these people; the question is "why friend"!

For example; The definition of friend is someone who is on your side!
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Or, just don't vote. It's not like it has an influence under the current system anyway, unless you're voting for a swing seat and like either Tory or Labour.
I always vote; it is my democratic right. Every vote counts.
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Most reporting in the UK is owned by the right wing. Seems member of this thread have bought their shit willingly. I'm not saying reading the Guardian is the answer either. We have no truly neutral media left in the UK.

Even the "left leaning BBC" is a merry go round of Tory party ex ministers, think tank members, publicists for the Tory party etc. Robert Preston is a great example, when the finance world collapsed in 2008 and QE was given out by the billions from taxpayers pockets there was little descent from the BBC. It's not left leaning it's just not following the Tory party propaganda line.

This is the goal to destroy the last standing neutral news media to allow the 1% to broadcast their "newsspeak."

In the last 30 years there has been a collective effort to destroy the rights of working people in the UK along with public services based on crackpot ideologies and shift the Overton window to the right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

It's been very successful for the right wing think tanks. Hey lets reduce all taxes and destroy public services, then sell them to our friends. All built on cheap credit and fake feelings of wealth for the general population, which we know in reality does not exist.

Eventually this will rebalance to the left it has to. When the majority of the UK population realise those in power are using smoke and mirrors to keep them from their rights as taxpayers. When they are fed up in visiting the food banks, watching public services destroyed, paying their energy bills or having their pensions plundered. The greed of these crackpots knows no boundaries and ultimately that will cause it to fail.

2M people marched against war in Iraq, how the hell did they get away with it?

In my mind New labour = Tory light (thanks for PFI too, even Thatcher wouldn't have gone for that!)

Corbyn IS on the right path (hes pissing many off) and he should be MORE radical. People want their country back and I unfortunately don't think he has the balls (not Ed) to carry it through.
"2M people marched against war in Iraq, how the hell did they get away with it? " In a country of ca. 60M; peanuts!

"Eventually this will rebalance to the left it has to."

To quote a phrase often attributed to Maggie Thatcher "“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
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Israel has peace with Jordan and Egypt, gave back Gaza and the Sinai. And offered more than 93% of the disputed territory back to Arafat, which was rejected.
This is the fact that people like Corbyn love to forget. Clinton managed to broker a deal where the Palestinians were offered virtually everything they wanted, and Arafat managed to screw it up.
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Date of this quote and date of the meeting referenced?

To quote Harold Wilson "a week is a long time in politics".

Corbyn has still to explain why he continues to refer to them as "friends"?
Nobody has objected to Corbyn talking to these people; the question is "why friend"!

For example; The definition of friend is someone who is on your side!
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I always vote; it is my democratic right. Every vote counts.
Try voting Tory in Liverpool, or Labour in Henley and see how much your vote counts. And besides, if there's no one worth voting for, then why bother?
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For those complaining about the current electoral system in the UK, I have to remind you that you had a chance to change it in 2011 with the Alternative Vote Referendum. This was massively refused by the UK electorate, and was a damn shame. Could really have rocked the system for Labour & Conservative parties.
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