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Oooooooooof course it got to be Gülen!
and of course Russia will use the attack to justify further violence in Syria. at the end of the day, both Putin and Erdogan get what they want.
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Old 20.12.2016, 19:14
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it will be interesting to see the response from both Turkey and Russia. apparently there are already reports linking the alleged gunman to Gülen, which certainly raises one's radar.
So how many hundreds of innocent senior policemen will be jailed or fired now?
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Old 20.12.2016, 20:23
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So how many hundreds of innocent senior policemen will be jailed or fired now?
Any left?
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

unfortunately they attacked one of the most prominent -safest as well- clubs in Istanbul (link to BBC article)

so they attacked touristic places be it in South, in the middle of Ankara or right at the center of Istanbul.. they attacked Istanbul airport terminal.. they killed the Russian ambassador all showing there is really no safety in the country any more.. 2017 is already doomed for the country and people let alone the already fragile tourism sector and economy in general

the government is an accomplice to these attacks; they incited intolerance & hate (just read the Ministry of Religious Affairs' announcement or various ministers' public opinions regarding new year celebrations or various protests against Russian Syrian policy by pro-government organisations in the days leading to the Russian ambassador's assassination). You cannot keep spreading hate/intolerance and then be shocked if some of your followers decide to take action on it.

Erdogan and his party opened the gates to radical groups hoping they will help the government achieve its whatever goal in Syria and Iraq; as any one with a bit of logic and wits would guess it backfired. They successfully managed to avert loss of public support thru media and successful oppression of opposition voices.
Against all who advocated his rise to power arguing he is doing it for democracy the country was much much better 13 years ago

It s only a matter of time before this beautiful country becomes another Afghanistan
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Old 03.01.2017, 16:16
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

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Turkish designer Barbaros Şansal on Jan. 3 was recorded on a phone camera being attacked by a group of assailants on the apron of Istanbul Atatürk Airport upon arrival after being expelled from Northern (Turkish) Cyprus over social media posts criticising Turkey.

The attackers were dispersed by anti-terror police officers escorting him.
Be careful what you post if you ever plan to visit Turkey.

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TÜRK MİLLETİ ONURLU BİR MİLLETTİR.
KABA KUVVET TASVİP EDİLMEZ.
AMA İNSANLARI TAHRİK ETMİYECEKSİN.
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TÜRK MİLLETİ ONURLU BİR MİLLETTİR.
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AMA İNSANLARI TAHRİK ETMİYECEKSİN.
Yeah. Right. WHAT?
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Old 03.01.2017, 16:45
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Yeah. Right. WHAT?
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TÜRK MİLLETİ ONURLU BİR MİLLETTİR.
KABA KUVVET TASVİP EDİLMEZ.
AMA İNSANLARI TAHRİK ETMİYECEKSİN.
The newspaper claims this supports violence against Turkish designer Barbaros Şansal but my efforts at translation failed
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Old 03.01.2017, 16:49
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The newspaper claims this supports violence against Turkish designer Barbaros Şansal but my efforts at translation failed
LOL. Well, I can't comment it then.
Turkish - like Swiss German - is only spoken in one country, means not really worth learning if one doesn't want to live there. And for some strange reason I have absolutely no desire to do so.
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Be careful what you post if you ever plan to visit Turkey.

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It is claimed Ankara Mayor Melih Gökçek praised a mob attack on fashion designer Barbaros Şansal; the Tweet
agree on caution for posts about Turkey; almost as bad as some "westernised" Arab countries where all media is full of happiness and progress

but then, if you could watch Barbaros's video post with proper translation, you would also accept he was really pushing with insults etc at the worst possible timing.. (Even a very prominent lawyer -anti AKP- was accepting that his video post was against the law)

this, however, does not change the fact that some protesters (possibly airport workers) managed to walk to his plane and beat him right at the airport parking strip -you would assume security would be more tight after so many terror attacks?!! unless of course, they were rightful, motherland loving, religious youngsters who could not control their temper such as those frequently addressed by his highness and his followers
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but then, if you could watch Barbaros's video post with proper translation, you would also accept he was really pushing with insults etc at the worst possible timing.. (Even a very prominent lawyer -anti AKP- was accepting that his video post was against the law)
But that's not available?
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But that's not available?
I think there could be one with English translation/subscripts but he cursed in Turkish slang where most of the meaning would be lost in translation

it s such a pointless video with unnecessary insults.. guess he was high then
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my efforts at translation failed
The translation would be:

Turkish nation is a proud nation.
Using brute force is not recommended.
But you shall not provoke people.

No idea what the author wanted to say, just providing the translation
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

whole of the country is now debating how to control the conflict between various fractions of the society i.e., secular vs fundamentalist vs kurdish separatists vs etc etc..

in all the media, people are discussing how divided the society is, how full of hatred they are against each other, how to prevent further verbal attacks etc

in the meantime we have forgotten that just three days ago terrorists attacked a nightclub massacring tens of innocent people. why has no official so far resigned? why don't we (I mean the Turkish public) discuss how so many terrorists are roaming the country freely? why does any one question what was the real cause of so many terror attacks since 2014? (16 alone in 2016)

the government again successfully managed to divert public attention from real subjects while simultaneously imprisoning further left-wing/secular opponents and further limiting civil liberties
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LOL. Well, I can't comment it then.
Turkish - like Swiss German - is only spoken in one country, means not really worth learning if one doesn't want to live there. And for some strange reason I have absolutely no desire to do so.
Turks are everywhere. Believe me when I say this but since I learned Turkish, there is no country I have been so far where I couldn't talk Turkish. In Germany and Switzerland especially, it is a very practical language to know when one doesn't speak German...

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In Germany and Switzerland especially, it is a very practical language to know when one doesn't speak German...

How about English?
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The translation would be:

Turkish nation is a proud nation.
Using brute force is not recommended.
But you shall not provoke people.

No idea what the author wanted to say, just providing the translation
Seems pretty clear to me. Thanks.

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Turks are everywhere. Believe me when I say this but since I learned Turkish, there is no country I have been so far where I couldn't talk Turkish. In Germany and Switzerland especially, it is a very practical language to know when one doesn't speak German...
LOL, did not expect to hear learning Turkish being recommended for Switzerland. In my enviroment it would be Kurdish anyway.
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whole of the country is now debating how to control the conflict between various fractions of the society i.e., secular vs fundamentalist vs kurdish separatists vs etc etc..

in all the media, people are discussing how divided the society is, how full of hatred they are against each other, how to prevent further verbal attacks etc

in the meantime we have forgotten that just three days ago terrorists attacked a nightclub massacring tens of innocent people. why has no official so far resigned? why don't we (I mean the Turkish public) discuss how so many terrorists are roaming the country freely? why does any one question what was the real cause of so many terror attacks since 2014? (16 alone in 2016)

the government again successfully managed to divert public attention from real subjects while simultaneously imprisoning further left-wing/secular opponents and further limiting civil liberties
Indeed, so many successful terror attacks is a disaster for Turkey; sooner or later people must begin to wonder if Erdogan is the right choice to stop this?

If the Turkish police are unable to stop airline passengers being beaten up on the tarmac then it is not surprising they have little success stopping terror attacks.

More terror attacks in Turkey last year than the whole of W. Europe and mostly with much higher death tolls
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

I was in Reina last may with some friends from Switzerland, such a shame what happened there. For the ones who doesnt know, there is a police station right next to it and on that day there were two additional security check points before and after the club. This makes me wonder of a police collaboration like the Russian ambassador assassination.

After all those attacks and attempts, it is safe(pun intended) to say that there is no state in Turkey right now. The judicial system has completely crippled. The only thing I see people(except the kurds) are united over is the operation in Syria which is lacking serious logistical supports due to the lack of state.

On the other hand, I see some concerns in the speeches of Erdogan and his cabinet. They are aware that the reason behind most of the current problems are their failed middle east politics and their cooperation with Feto. They are now trying to recover but the damage on the country is so huge.

I will not be surprised if one day we wake up to him leaving the country in the complete mess. As there is no real army in place either, I dont know what will happen then.
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Seems pretty clear to me. Thanks.


LOL, did not expect to hear learning Turkish being recommended for Switzerland. In my enviroment it would be Kurdish anyway.
From Beijing to San Diego, I have always run into Turks and speaking Turkish has always helped me one way or another
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Interesting article



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In the last days of 2016, there were systematic “preemptive strikes” from several mayors, government institutions and nongovernmental organizations against people who would celebrate the New Year. Turkey’s Religious Affairs Directorate claimed it “illicit” for Turkey’s Muslim citizens to celebrate the new year. Banners showing a bearded man punching Santa Claus in the face were hung around Istanbul, while a group pointed guns at their friend in a Santa costume to demonstrate their protest over secular New Year’s Eve celebrations. Santa is associated with Christmas and New Year’s in predominantly Muslim Turkey. On the morning of Dec. 31, a headline in an Islamist newspaper read, “This is our last warning, DO NOT celebrate.”
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