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Old 10.10.2017, 09:08
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

What's more interesting is that Turkey looks like it's about to go into Northern Syria. Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, I'm sure of it.
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Old 10.10.2017, 09:52
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What's more interesting is that Turkey looks like it's about to go into Northern Syria. Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, I'm sure of it.
Yes he does but beyond that if the PYD gets an access to mediterreanen it would create a big economic and strategic loss to Turkey.
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The chair of Amnesty International in Turkey and 10 other Amnesty activists are to go on trial on Wednesday facing potentially 15 years in prison in one of the most high-profile tests of Turkish criminal law since the failed coup in 2016 led to tens of thousands of arrests and dismissals from public office.

At his trial in İzmir, Kılıç faces charges of being a member of a terrorist organisation, largely on the basis that he had downloaded a widely available phone messaging application called ByLock on his phone, over 600,000 downloads!

Kılıç goes on trial in Istanbul on Wednesday along with 10 other Amnesty activists the charges relate to a digital security and stress training workshop Amnesty held in a hotel outside the city that the prosecuting authorities claim was a secret meeting to organise an uprising, or even conduct espionage.

Kılıç did not attend the workshop, because he was in prison after being arrested the previous month. He is accused of knowing it was going ahead.

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Do not visit or transit through Turkey if you ever loaded ByLock on your phone.
In a landmark case the Turkish supreme court in September ruled that the ByLock app was redesigned exclusively for the use of Gülenist members, and was therefore sufficient grounds to find someone guilty of being member of a terrorist organisation.
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The chair of Amnesty International in Turkey and 10 other Amnesty activists are to go on trial on Wednesday facing potentially 15 years in prison in one of the most high-profile tests of Turkish criminal law since the failed coup in 2016 led to tens of thousands of arrests and dismissals from public office.

At his trial in İzmir, Kılıç faces charges of being a member of a terrorist organisation, largely on the basis that he had downloaded a widely available phone messaging application called ByLock on his phone, over 600,000 downloads!

Kılıç goes on trial in Istanbul on Wednesday along with 10 other Amnesty activists the charges relate to a digital security and stress training workshop Amnesty held in a hotel outside the city that the prosecuting authorities claim was a secret meeting to organise an uprising, or even conduct espionage.

Kılıç did not attend the workshop, because he was in prison after being arrested the previous month. He is accused of knowing it was going ahead.

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Do not visit or transit through Turkey if you ever loaded ByLock on your phone.
In a landmark case the Turkish supreme court in September ruled that the ByLock app was redesigned exclusively for the use of Gülenist members, and was therefore sufficient grounds to find someone guilty of being member of a terrorist organisation.
I am in favor of the trials and investigations for all who has used By-Lock but it is not a direct prosecution. The authorities has already broken the encryption and they can see what has been communicated via the the app. If there is any criminality(really) jail them but if not they should be released.

The problem is that this has to be done very very fast as the people are already in jail while waiting for a court day.
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Old 25.10.2017, 11:19
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I am in favor of the trials and investigations for all who has used By-Lock but it is not a direct prosecution. The authorities has already broken the encryption and they can see what has been communicated via the the app. If there is any criminality(really) jail them but if not they should be released.

The problem is that this has to be done very very fast as the people are already in jail while waiting for a court day.
When they have broken the encryption then this evidence will be presented in court?

The encryption was broken over a year ago so they have had plenty of time to produce the evidence.
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When they have broken the encryption then this evidence will be presented in court?

The encryption was broken over a year ago so they have had plenty of time to produce the evidence.
exactly, this is not justice.
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The chair of Amnesty International in Turkey and 10 other Amnesty activists are to go on trial on Wednesday facing potentially 15 years in prison in one of the most high-profile tests of Turkish criminal law since the failed coup in 2016 led to tens of thousands of arrests and dismissals from public office.

At his trial in İzmir, Kılıç faces charges of being a member of a terrorist organisation, largely on the basis that he had downloaded a widely available phone messaging application called ByLock on his phone, over 600,000 downloads!

Kılıç goes on trial in Istanbul on Wednesday along with 10 other Amnesty activists the charges relate to a digital security and stress training workshop Amnesty held in a hotel outside the city that the prosecuting authorities claim was a secret meeting to organise an uprising, or even conduct espionage.

Kılıç did not attend the workshop, because he was in prison after being arrested the previous month. He is accused of knowing it was going ahead.

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Do not visit or transit through Turkey if you ever loaded ByLock on your phone.
In a landmark case the Turkish supreme court in September ruled that the ByLock app was redesigned exclusively for the use of Gülenist members, and was therefore sufficient grounds to find someone guilty of being member of a terrorist organisation.
update: they are released.
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Old 27.10.2017, 15:34
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update: they are released.
Eight of them conditionally released while their trial continues; Amnesty International's chair, Taner Kılıç, still has a separate trial.

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Edit; The chairman of Amnesty International Turkey has been ordered to remain in custody by a Turkish court, just hours after he was released!
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Eight of them conditionally released while their trial continues; Amnesty International's chair, Taner Kılıç, still has a separate trial.

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Edit; The chairman of Amnesty International Turkey has been ordered to remain in custody by a Turkish court, just hours after he was released!
another great example of judicial independence under Erdogan...
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Old 27.10.2017, 18:08
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Former CIA director James Woolsey pitched a $10 million contract to two Turkish businessmen to help discredit a controversial U.S.-based cleric [Gulen] while Woolsey was an adviser to Donald Trump’s election campaign, three people familiar with the proposal said.

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Woolsey alleged in media interviews that Flynn and others had, at a Sept. 19, 2016 meeting in New York, discussed with Turkey’s foreign and energy ministers the idea of covertly spiriting Gulen out of the United States and to Turkey.

Flynn has denied through a spokesman ever discussing such a plan.
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Woolsey alleged in media interviews that Flynn and others had, at a Sept. 19, 2016 meeting in New York, discussed with Turkey’s foreign and energy ministers the idea of covertly spiriting Gulen out of the United States and to Turkey.

Flynn has denied through a spokesman ever discussing such a plan.
On a somewhat related tangent:

What are these statements worth in a legal sense anyway? What weight do they hold?

Assuming such a statement turns out to be false:
i) the speaker can easily claim to have been falsely informed, that may well be true
ii) the main person (Flynn in this case) didn't say anything thus no wrongdoing at all on his part

All in all it's nothing but warm air. Or is it?
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Old 01.11.2017, 18:09
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Rumours circulating that Reza Zarrab has decided to cooperate with US authorities and name names of high ranking Turks who were involved in Iran sanction breaking and money laundering.

Looking forward to frantic denials from Ankara

Of course they are just rumours
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Rumours circulating that Reza Zarrab has decided to cooperate with US authorities and name names of high ranking Turks who were involved in Iran sanction breaking and money laundering.

Looking forward to frantic denials from Ankara

Of course they are just rumours
Prime minister is in DC next week...wonder what is that about
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Turkish prosecutors launched an investigation Saturday of two United States prosecutors involved in putting a Turkish-Iranian businessman on trial for allegedly violating U.S. sanctions against Iran, according to the country's official news agency.

The Istanbul prosecutor's office said it us investigating Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, and Bharara's successor, Acting U.S. Attorney Joon H. Kim.

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Turkish officials allege the case against Zarrab is politically motivated. They have accused Bharara, the former U.S. attorney, of links to a Pennsylvania-based Muslim cleric, Fethullah Gulen, whom the Turkish government blames for a failed July 2016 military coup.

Not so easy to make such allegations stick in the US where they demand awkward things like proof and evidence
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Interesting opinion on Turkey here

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There is the case involving Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, and Richard Berman, a federal district court judge—all of whom Turkish authorities have claimed, implausibly, to be supporters of Gulen.
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In 2003, the Turks watched as an American president ordered—against their advice—the invasion of Iraq. As that country destabilized, Turkey experienced a wave of attacks originating from Iraq by the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), a terrorist group that has waged war on the Turks since the mid-1980s.
Then, the Turks watched in horror as Obama decided not to act in the Middle East while Syria’s uprising became a vortex of violence that forced Turkey to accept millions of refugees and destabilized its southeastern border.
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

We are speaking only Reza Zarrap now in Turkey...
There are a lot of scandals about him and our gouverment...
According to new which we heard The USA , Reza said that he has given over 45 billion euro as bribery to the goverment to do his some illegal jobs...

We are waiting for new news from The USA.
I think The USA will give us some sanction about for this topics.
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Old 30.11.2017, 14:28
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We are speaking only Reza Zarrap now in Turkey...
There are a lot of scandals about him and our gouverment...
According to new which we heard The USA , Reza said that he has given over 45 billion euro as bribery to the goverment to do his some illegal jobs...

We are waiting for new news from The USA.
I think The USA will give us some sanction about for this topics.
I doubt Trump will support sanctions against his friend Erdogan; he did not react much after Erdogan's bodyguards beat up some American protesters.

According to some newspapers Reza Zarrab testified he paid Turkey's former economy minister Zafer Caglayan tens of millions of dollars in bribes to launder money on behalf of Iran, in violation of US sanctions.

Reza Zarrab has gone from being the target of a US investigation to the US government's star witness

Mr. Erdogan has bitterly condemned the new prosecution and sought to persuade American officials to drop it.
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Reza Zarrab testified today, Thursday, to jurors in a New York federal court that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan personally authorized a transaction in a scheme to help Iran evade U.S. sanctions.

Zarrab said he learned from Zafer Caglayan, who was Turkey’s economy minister, that Erdogan and then-treasury minister Ali Babacan had signed off on the transaction.

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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Erdogan trying to be Trump?

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He is as unqualified as him...treaty of lausanne is the birth certificate of turkey it should not be renegotiated
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