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One Dead After Explosion At German Restaurant

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One person has been killed in an explosion at a restaurant in the German city of Ansbach near Nuremberg.
The blast at Eugene's Wine Bar injured 10 others, and German media reports suggest it was caused by a gas leak.
http://news.sky.com/story/one-dead-a...urant-10511772

Poor Bavarians. They must feel like they're getting it in the neck at the moment.

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Re: One Dead After [gas] Explosion At German Restaurant

"Big Brother is watching you."

I'd post the author of that quote but I don't want him to get in trouble, like getting a 1-month ban or something.
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Re: One Dead After [suspected gas] Explosion At German Restaurant

according to US media as well as Tagi and several other German-language sources, the attack was deliberate. prayers for those who were injured and for all those who may otherwise be impacted.

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Re: One Dead After [suspected gas] Explosion At German Restaurant

A suicide bombing by a failed Syrian asylum seeker
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Re: Syrian Refugee Wielding Machete Kills Woman

Good old Muslim whackos, I knew you would come through in the end.
A Syrian refugee has deconstructed hisself up with a bomb in the town of Ansbach.
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Re: One Dead After [suspected gas] Explosion At German Restaurant

OK sorry but what the F has been going on these past 10 days?

Confirmation that it was a suicide bombing: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...german-city-o/
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Re: One Dead After [suspected gas] Explosion At German Restaurant

What many many people said would happen last year when Merkel opened the floodgates.

These people have brought their crime and war to Europe.

I notice that the Munich killer's friend - an Afghan teenager has been arrested... funny company he's keeping if he's such an acolyte of Breivik... or could it just be the German authorities caught lying again...
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Re: One Dead After [suspected gas] Explosion At German Restaurant

"Gas Explosion"
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Re: Syrian Refugee Wielding Machete Kills Woman

Daily business in Germany as usual or failure of the day.

The should introduce safe explosion chambers for those needy bastards ...

Ansbach explosion: Syrian asylum seeker blows himself up in Germany
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36880758

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Re: One Dead After [suspected gas] Explosion At German Restaurant

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What many many people said would happen last year when Merkel opened the floodgates.

These people have brought their crime and war to Europe.

I notice that the Munich killer's friend - an Afghan teenager has been arrested... funny company he's keeping if he's such an acolyte of Breivik... or could it just be the German authorities caught lying again...
Parnell,

Not that I want to lock horns with you. There does seem to be something going on.

If as you say Merkel opening the floodgates is causal then where do you see this being a root cause in the case of these perpetrators who were already here long before Merkel opened the gates? The train axe attacker, the Munich shooter, and the Ansbach bomber were all here before the wave (I haven't found any information about when the Machete attacker arrived).

I don't see that it follows that the German authorities are lying, they may also be trying desperately to figure out a situation that may not make sense in any sort of rational way.
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Re: One Dead After Explosion At German Restaurant

Now will we see a wave of 80x murders, explosions etc by the "native" Germans? So that they can prove they're not a statistical outlier and they can do theirfair share of suicide attacks.
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Parnell,

Not that I want to lock horns with you. There does seem to be something going on.

If as you say Merkel opening the floodgates is causal then where do you see this being a root cause in the case of these perpetrators who were already here long before Merkel opened the gates? The train axe attacker, the Munich shooter, and the Ansbach bomber were all here before the wave (I haven't found any information about when the Machete attacker arrived).
It's just disaffected people who cannot compete against the locals for good jobs or hot chics ... they see the rich folks on Maximillianstrasse and they want some of that but can't get work because of the minimum wage or because there are hot young blonde students who apply for the same job... and they'll blame it on racism and they'll retreat into their korans and Munich will be like Paris with the North African gangs... and it's all so predictable... and that's just for those who even want to integrate... imagine how it is for those who are even partially disaffected?

Merkel's opening the floodgates was absolutely catastrophic... it lowered the bar SOO much for disaffected people to come in... free cash in Germany and Sweden... hell I'm surprised half of India didn't walk right in - so many Pakistanis certainly did... what chance do those people have of integrating in a modern secular ultra competitive environment ??? The whole story about "engineers and architects" and paying pensions was an obvious setup...

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I don't see that it follows that the German authorities are lying, they may also be trying desperately to figure out a situation that may not make sense in any sort of rational way.
They were caught lying about Cologne , as Loz correctly points out this was originally reported as a "gas explosion" - hehe it's still there in the *Ace approved* thread title - after a little bit the pattern becomes very very discernible...
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Old 25.07.2016, 09:03
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Re: One Dead After Explosion At German Restaurant

Some very angry Germans out there today. If this carries on, which it most likely will, the elections next year are going to be very interesting.
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Parnell,

Not that I want to lock horns with you. There does seem to be something going on.

If as you say Merkel opening the floodgates is causal then where do you see this being a root cause in the case of these perpetrators who were already here long before Merkel opened the gates? The train axe attacker, the Munich shooter, and the Ansbach bomber were all here before the wave (I haven't found any information about when the Machete attacker arrived).

I don't see that it follows that the German authorities are lying, they may also be trying desperately to figure out a situation that may not make sense in any sort of rational way.
Merkel's opening of the floodgates and her saying "das schaf(f)en wir" implied that integration, if it is indeed a challenge at all, is a surmountable challenge. It is something that works in Germany. A lot of the discourse in the German media at the time was loaded with German Exceptionalism. It might well have been that the French, for example, totally messed up their integration. But Germany is different. Germany is thorough, efficient, and has a big heart. This was the message that was in the air back then.

So every example of a long resident immigrant who is not only poorly integrated, but even starts killing people, is a nail in the theory of German Exceptionalism, and makes it increasingly blatant that the whole thing ws launched on a false pretense.
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Now will we see a wave of 80x murders, explosions etc by the "native" Germans? So that they can prove they're not a statistical outlier and they can do theirfair share of suicide attacks.
Interesting graph of W. Europe terror attacks, data (except one year) is from the Global Terrorism Database.
Seems the situation used to be much worse.
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They were caught lying about Cologne , as Loz correctly points out this was originally reported as a "gas explosion" - hehe it's still there in the *Ace approved* thread title - after a little bit the pattern becomes very very discernible...
"The authorities": There was a cover-up in Cologne, ergo every single official statement can now be dismissed as a lie. I find this difficult to believe, in the sense that then I can no longer trust the entire system, right down to the price of postage stamps and the valid parking hours posted on the parking meters.

I note that the thread title has been changed to reflect the case as it is currently understood. (That is a pattern that I recognise)

Have to think about the rest for a bit.
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Interesting graph of W. Europe terror attacks, data (except one year) is from the Global Terrorism Database.
Seems the situation used to be much worse.
Four attacks in Germany the space of a week. Three of them from asylum seekers. This graph means nothing in the context of the current situation in Germany.
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Interesting graph of W. Europe terror attacks, data (except one year) is from the Global Terrorism Database.
Seems the situation used to be much worse.
We would need a better breakdown to get a clearer picture.

Don't the older dates include lots of attacks on aircraft, either by bomb or hi-jacking. Lockerbie is mentioned but there were others. There haven't been any like that recently.

Also, back in the day anybody who could rig up an explosive device in his back room could be a terrorist. Look at some of the amateur cr@p the German RAF did for example. Today counter-terrorism is much more advanced so if deaths are increasing again, it shows the stakes have been raised to new levels.
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"The authorities": There was a cover-up in Cologne, ergo every single official statement can now be dismissed as a lie. I find this difficult to believe, in the sense that then I can no longer trust the entire system, right down to the price of postage stamps and the valid parking hours posted on the parking meters.
There was a cover up and there was a cover up over the cover up. Normally if there is a cover up you expect those responisble to be dismissed and put on trial. In Cologne the opposite happened and the whistleblowers in the police force and a handful of scapegoats were fired while those at the top of the command chain remained and continue to spread their pro-Merkelite babble. I think that does severely impact public trust in the authorities and elected officials, no?
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Interesting graph of W. Europe terror attacks, data (except one year) is from the Global Terrorism Database.
Seems the situation used to be much worse.
Yes, it used to be much worse, but it was different terrorism. Terrorism is by no means new, but it's a different kind these days. Terrorism used to be political and was usually confined to attacks within one's own country (think RAF, ETA). These days it not only transcends borders, it is also religiously motivated, whether people like it or not.

I know this is a touchy subject and you're not allowed to say anything these days without being called a racist or whatever. But after Cologne and now this, I'm inclined to say there is a bigger issue and I'm also inclined to say it's not really a surprise. And parnell does have a point. Bad integration, frustration, lack of prospects, despite constant claims to the opposite, retraction into what's familiar etc.pp. It's not uncommon. It's even pretty human. Of course few of us would actually blow themselves up or go around slaughtering people, so there must be some other element.
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