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Old 14.11.2016, 12:16
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Re: Will Hillary Clinton run for president again?

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Some people might interpret Hillary's defeat of a rejection of political dynasties.

Others seem to believe that we need to give dynasties another chance.
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Some people might interpret Hillary's defeat of a rejection of political dynasties.

Others seem to believe that we need to give dynasties another chance.
Anyone calling for Michelle Obama to run in 2020 still hasn't grasped the reasons for Trump's victory last week.
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Re: Will Hillary Clinton run for president again?

Give her a chance.( Clinton )You gotta be kidding. She's a war criminal. She was quoted as saying about Asange " can't we just drone him?"
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She can always try to run again but she won't be nominated unless the Dems cheat again or want to commit suicide!

If Hillary cares about the US (unlikely), she should retire.

I seriously doubt that we'll see a female President for the next 16 years!

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Give her a chance.( Clinton )You gotta be kidding. She's a war criminal. She was quoted as saying about Asange " can't we just drone him?"
Indeed! Plus she's one of the most corrupt politician in the history of the US. Worse than her, you cannot find in US!

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I seriously doubt that we'll see a female President for the next 16 years!
Love that crystal ball of yours...
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Old 14.11.2016, 16:35
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I seriously doubt that we'll see a female President for the next 16 years!
I don't really think gender is a factor in US elections. We have scores of female politicians, and Hillary won the popular vote. The American misogyny allegation is simply a desperate lie.

But as for Hillary herself, no chance. The democratic party is torn asunder, and can't even comprehend where they went wrong. When they reconstitute, they will be even further left, or gravitate to the right.

As for most accomplishments of social issues, we are more likely to find a republican woman president than a democrat.
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Old 14.11.2016, 16:52
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I don't really think gender is a factor in US elections. We have scores of female politicians, and Hillary won the popular vote. The American misogyny allegation is simply a desperate lie.
Not an outright lie, but those who say the game isn't totally level do have a point.

Of the 20 or so candidates who partook in the primaries of both parties there was only one other woman, Carly Fiorina. And to be honest, she had so little impact one suspects she was just put up to deflect the accusation there were no women at all.

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But as for Hillary herself, no chance. The democratic party is torn asunder, and can't even comprehend where they went wrong. When they reconstitute, they will be even further left, or gravitate to the right.

As for most accomplishments of social issues, we are more likely to find a republican woman president than a democrat.
I agree.
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Some people might interpret Hillary's defeat of a rejection of political dynasties.

Others seem to believe that we need to give dynasties another chance.
I don't see how this should be conclusive either way, there are a good many political dynasties. Particularly funny the same question wasn't asked when Jeb Bush dropped out of the race.
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Give her a chance.( Clinton )You gotta be kidding. She's a war criminal. She was quoted as saying about Asange " can't we just drone him?"
So what. The US murder thousands of targets abroad each and every year without due process.
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Old 14.11.2016, 23:18
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I don't really think gender is a factor in US elections. We have scores of female politicians, and Hillary won the popular vote. The American misogyny allegation is simply a desperate lie.
Just because there happen to be female politicians, doesn't mean that the playing field is level. We live in a patriarchal society - men and women both still have a lack of faith in female leadership

And just imagine for a moment if Trump were a woman, and had been taped saying she grabs men by the c*ck, starts kissing them, can't help herself. The US would have collectively said 'eew, what a nasty old skank cougar slut!' and that'd be it, campaign over.

Yuge double standards.
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Just because there happen to be female politicians, doesn't mean that the playing field is level. We live in a patriarchal society - men and women both still have a lack of faith in female leadership

And just imagine for a moment if Trump were a woman, and had been taped saying she grabs men by the c*ck, starts kissing them, can't help herself. The US would have collectively said 'eew, what a nasty old skank cougar slut!' and that'd be it, campaign over.

Yuge double standards.
She was leading in the polls. She seems to have won the popular vote, although an estimated 3 million votes may have been cast by ineligible illegal aliens. She did not lose because of misogyny, she lost because her campaign was flawed, and her past actions were flawed. The allegation of misogyny deflects the responsibility for her lost, and drifts further away from understanding why she lost.

As for running again, a simple question to her is why she did not say anything to the protesters on the streets after she had lost. She has already checked out. She will not be getting another chance. Though there are plenty of other women who might.
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Old 15.11.2016, 00:15
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Just because there happen to be female politicians, doesn't mean that the playing field is level. We live in a patriarchal society
Yet 4 of the last 7 Swiss presidents were women, despite only 45 years of having the vote!

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Old 15.11.2016, 00:25
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Yet 4 of the last 7 Swiss presidents were women, despite only 45 years of having the vote!

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Um, yeah, there have been 6 female presidents of Switzerland... out of 168 so far...
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Old 15.11.2016, 00:28
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Um, yeah, there have been 6 female presidents of Switzerland... out of 168 so far...
And the first was even Jewish.

Beats pretty much any other country on the planet.

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And the first was even Jewish.

Beats pretty much any other country on the planet.

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I reckon Golda Meir was probably Jewish. And had the top job 30 years before Switzerland's first female President.
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Re: Will Hillary Clinton run for president again?

I don't want to take anything away from the women who HAVE been elected President of Switzerland, but that isn't exactly the equivalent of POTUS, is it? Am I right in assuming it's more of a ceremonial role which takes the place of the British monarch in a parliamentary system?

(That's a guess of mine. I have NOT checked the Swiss constitution.)
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I don't see how this should be conclusive either way, there are a good many political dynasties. Particularly funny the same question wasn't asked when Jeb Bush dropped out of the race.

So what. The US murder thousands of targets abroad each and every year without due process.
If you didn't think there was celebrating after the defeat of Jeb "Please Clap" Bush in the right-wing rank and file, you weren't paying attention.

And yes, the US needs to return to being a Republic rather than an Empire. That also puts you on the opposite side as Clinton, FYI. Practically on the same page as Pat Buchanan.
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Old 15.11.2016, 09:26
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Give her a chance.( Clinton )You gotta be kidding. She's a war criminal. She was quoted as saying about Asange " can't we just drone him?"
A claim by an extreme nut-job ultra right wing web site with an excellent line in lies that was never substantiated.

Although that never stopped others from repeating it.
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Old 15.11.2016, 10:01
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A claim by an extreme nut-job ultra right wing web site with an excellent line in lies that was never substantiated.

Although that never stopped others from repeating it.
And even if she said it, it wouldn't be a crime until she actually ordered the strike.
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Re: Will Hillary Clinton run for president again?

That is about on par with all other innuendos thrown at everyone else.
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And even if she said it, it wouldn't be a crime until she actually ordered the strike.
So, similar to all the crap that came out of Trump's pie hole, yeah?

Maybe we should just wait and see.

Personally - nothing is really going to change. The lack of change is just going to be louder and more irritating for the next few years.

Wake me up when the real revolution starts.
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