Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 1023

#**20441** 06.11.2019, 10:56

Remember this woman? She was fired for flipping the bird at Trump.

Yesterday she was elected Loudoun county supervisor in Virginia, beating the Republican candidate.

#**20442** 06.11.2019, 11:08

In the "Entirely Bleedin' Predictable" category Iran starts the process of Uranium enrichment, well done donny, bra-effing-vo

Second place in the same category goes to Ambassador PaidForLand remembering that actually military aid to fight the Russian invasion of Ukraine was indeed contingent on campaign help. One can see how that would slip his mind.

So that's I think 10 witnesses now confirming the quid pro quo which sets us up for the interesting spectacle of Senators needing climate-denier levels of delusion to continue to support Spanky.

get your popcorn orders in early, before China start paying tariffs on it

marton · #**20443** 06.11.2019, 12:13

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	Trump got kicked in the teeth in Kentucky and Virginia yesterday. But then again, the Fake News Media would find a way to twist crushing GOP defeats in the light of Trump's shenanigans and his ongoing impeachment hearings into something to do with Trump, wouldn't they. Apparently nothing happened in Virginia. Maybe Trump will figure it out when he sees the blue glow on the horizon from the porch of the White House. And he seems to have problems understanding polls, which showed Bevin leading Beshear in Kentucky by five points or more, or at worst, tied with him (in one poll).

The scary thing for the GOP is that Trump won the Kentucky State by 30 percentage points but now the GOP governor lost to the Dems despite a Trump rally there and the VP Pence taking a promotional bus tour with the GOP governor last week!

As others posted, there is now a steady drip of Trump admin people not only confirming the whistleblower complaint but adding new stuff like the telephone call transcript left out key phrases

Urs Max · #**20444** 06.11.2019, 13:32

	Quote:	k_and_e
	First he would be re-elected. Then she would be kind of re-elected. That would be a miracle.

Hillary
- was FLOTUS for eight years
- was senator for two(?) periods (8 years?)
- ran for POTUS yet lost in the primaries (lost to Barry)
- was Secretary of State (4 years)
- ran again for POTUS but lost against Trump

... and may run yet again for POTUS, as rumor has it.

But she's a Democrat so that must be fine.

#**20445** 06.11.2019, 14:01

Many dead in Tajikistan 'firefight with IS'

But how could that possibly be?

Rob · #**20446** 06.11.2019, 14:32

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	I prefer Bring Me to Life.

How does this work?

#**20447** 06.11.2019, 14:46

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	Remember this woman? She was fired for flipping the bird at Trump. ... Yesterday she was elected Loudoun county supervisor in Virginia, beating the Republican candidate.

Beating an eight year incumbent Republican, for eight years Suzanne Volpe was good enough for county supervisor, then along comes donnie. I'm reminded of the title of Rick Wilsons book, "Everything Trump Touches Dies".

marton · #**20448** 07.11.2019, 15:13

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	Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump The story in the Amazon Washington Post, of course, picked up by Fake News CNN, saying “President Trump asked for AG Barr to host a news conference clearing him on Ukraine,” is totally untrue and just another FAKE NEWS story with anonymous sources that don’t exist.... 6:08 AM · Nov 7, 2019

Does sound like Trump to ask AG Barr; might explain why Barr has been invisible for the last few weeks.

The DOJ already acted like Trump's private lawyers by claiming there was nothing illegal in the conversation transcript.

Meanwhile

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	A Chinese official said Thursday that Beijing and Washington have agreed to reduce tariffs amid trade negotiations, according to multiple reports, clearing a potential obstacle to a deal.

Source

A strange world when we find China statements to be more credible than the US President!

For example, President Trump has announced that China has agreed to buy up to $50 billion in U.S. agricultural goods, but China has not confirmed the amount.

marton · #**20449** 07.11.2019, 15:29

Almost Friday

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	Ambassador Bill Taylor, top US diplomat in Ukraine: Greenland purchase proposal 'took up a lot of energy' Speaking to impeachment committees last month, he described difficulty in convening a meeting of top-level Cabinet officials with Trump to discuss the Ukraine assistance, which was put on hold over the summer. Part of the issue was logistics, he said. But it also came as national security officials inside the White House were scrambling to contain Trump's Greenland idea.

Source

Spanky really is a sandwich short of a picnic

bowlie · #**20450** 07.11.2019, 16:16

	Quote:	marton
	Almost Friday Source Spanky really is a sandwich short of a picnic

Rather a few penguins short of an iceberg.

marton · #**20451** 07.11.2019, 17:09

The latest version of the GOP defense of Trump seems designed to have him impeached for incompetence

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	"What I can tell you about the Trump policy toward Ukraine: It was incoherent, it depends on who you talk to, they seem to be incapable of forming a quid pro quo, so no I find the whole process to be a sham and I'm not going to legitimize it," Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, told reporters Wednesday.

Source

In September, Graham said evidence of a quid pro quo involving the president and Ukraine did "not exist."

curley · #**20452** 07.11.2019, 17:37

So, I was taught on here that an impeached president can carry on bein the president.
Can he also run again/be elected again?

marton · #**20453** 07.11.2019, 18:32

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	Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump · The Amazon Washington Post and three lowlife reporters, Matt Zapotosky, Josh Dawsey, and Carol Leonnig, wrote another Fake News story, without any sources (pure fiction), about Bill Barr & myself. We both deny this story, which they knew before they wrote it. A garbage newspaper!

There is no record of Barr denying this

Trump's alternative truth reality again.

3Wishes · #**20454** 07.11.2019, 21:28

	Quote:	curley
	So, I was taught on here that an impeached president can carry on bein the president. Can he also run again/be elected again?

If he's impeached but not removed from office - yes he can continue serving and run again. Clinton continued serving but was term-limited so could not run again.

If he's impeached and removed from office but NOT barred from holding office - yes, he can run again and be re-elected

If he's impeached, removed from office, and barred from holding office again - then nope.

Impeachment = House
Removal from office and barring from holding office again = Senate

marton · #**20455** 07.11.2019, 21:43

The Mafia godfather!

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	Trump ordered to pay $2M in a settlement over Trump Foundation lawsuit alleging he used his charity’s funds for personal and political means. Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Saliann Scarpulla ruled that more than $2.8 million raised by the Trump Foundation has been used for Trump’s campaign and staff rather than the charity itself, The New York attorney general’s office also said that it had entered into stipulations with the Trump Foundation to resolve outstanding claims in the lawsuit. “The Trump Foundation has shut down, funds that were illegally misused are being restored, the president will be subject to ongoing supervision by my office, and the Trump children had to undergo compulsory training to ensure this type of illegal activity never takes place again,”

Source

Peanuts compared to the Trump University settlement; Trump settled all three lawsuits in November 2016 for a total of $25 million.
$21 million to the participants in the class actions, $3 million to New Yorkers not covered by the class actions, and a penalty of up to $1 million assessed by the state of New York for running an unlicensed university.

#**20456** 07.11.2019, 22:36

	Quote:	marton
	The Mafia godfather! Source Peanuts compared to the Trump University settlement; Trump settled all three lawsuits in November 2016 for a total of $25 million. $21 million to the participants in the class actions, $3 million to New Yorkers not covered by the class actions, and a penalty of up to $1 million assessed by the state of New York for running an unlicensed university.

Sorry Marton.. But since you referenced the Trump foundation and his indiscretion can we not also call out the Clinton foundation and how much they benefited from Hilary's position as Secretary of State? Both Hilary and Bill notwithsatnding Donald are crooks in my view.

What a sad state the US finds itself!

curley · #**20457** 07.11.2019, 22:36

	Quote:	3Wishes
	If he's impeached but not removed from office - yes he can continue serving and run again. Clinton continued serving but was term-limited so could not run again. If he's impeached and removed from office but NOT barred from holding office - yes, he can run again and be re-elected If he's impeached, removed from office, and barred from holding office again - then nope. Impeachment = House Removal from office and barring from holding office again = Senate

Thank you.

Much ado about nothing then.
O rather he will brag for four years that he got impeached and reelected .... "first one ever" ... "I am the chosen one" .... "I'm wonderful for the USA" blablabla
I hope during his second term, the press (and marton

) will just ignore him.

I read "Removal from office and barring from holding office again = Santa" at first

3Wishes · #**20458** 07.11.2019, 22:42

	Quote:	terrifisch
	Sorry Marton.. But since you referenced the Trump foundation and his indiscretion can we not also call out the Clinton foundation and how much they benefited from Hilary's position as Secretary of State? Both Hilary and Bill notwithsatnding Donald are crooks in my view. What a sad state the US finds itself!

There's a distinct difference, though. Trump's foundation was never charitable or to do any good works for anyone except Trump - it was simply another cash-raising machine for his campaign.

The Clinton Foundation of course benefitted from Bill being a former president and Hilary being SOS, just like any other former president's foundation. While there were some potentially dodgy things, the foundation hasn't been shut down (unlike Trump's) and actually does promote programs to improve lives around the world (unlike Trump's).

https://twitter.com/Marmel/status/1192534935690563584

That said, having a decent foundation that's less dodgy than Trump's foundation does not make the Clintons saints.

marton · #**20459** 07.11.2019, 22:57

	Quote:	3Wishes
	There's a distinct difference, though. Trump's foundation was never charitable or to do any good works for anyone except Trump - it was simply another cash-raising machine for his campaign. The Clinton Foundation of course benefitted from Bill being a former president and Hilary being SOS, just like any other former president's foundation. While there were some potentially dodgy things, the foundation hasn't been shut down (unlike Trump's) and actually does promote programs to improve lives around the world (unlike Trump's). https://twitter.com/Marmel/status/1192534935690563584 That said, having a decent foundation that's less dodgy than Trump's foundation does not make the Clintons saints.

True, but I find it sort of sad that people pick up, believe and repeat Trump's conspiracy theories (Clinton Foundation, Bidens, &&&) when there is not a shred of evidence of any actual criminal activity. I suppose that is a major strength of Trump that he can brainwash people so easily and effectively.

Especially when he himself has to settle court cases in the millions due to his activities that are not so evidence-free!

#**20460** 07.11.2019, 23:34

	Quote:	3Wishes
	There's a distinct difference, though. Trump's foundation was never charitable or to do any good works for anyone except Trump - it was simply another cash-raising machine for his campaign. The Clinton Foundation of course benefitted from Bill being a former president and Hilary being SOS, just like any other former president's foundation. While there were some potentially dodgy things, the foundation hasn't been shut down (unlike Trump's) and actually does promote programs to improve lives around the world (unlike Trump's). https://twitter.com/Marmel/status/1192534935690563584 That said, having a decent foundation that's less dodgy than Trump's foundation does not make the Clintons saints.

Here you go:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ton-foundation