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Old 03.01.2020, 09:54
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Drone assassinations without congressional review, evidence or respect of international treaties have become commonplace thanks to the US/Obama & Israel. We are officially in unchartered territory because this time the US has chosen to target a more formidable opponent with a far greater reach than any before. No idea what happens next but no question it won't be good

Cue the state propaganda in the US/UK to spin the story into some benevolent act of 'the greater good' mantra. We have our own live version of GoT ongoing
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I’m sure the timing of this in the light of the current impeachment process, the damaging emails released yesterday and the impending Presidential election is purely, completely, utterly coincidental.
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Daaammnnn... As the headline says, this hasn't aged well.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/03/donal...well-11994278/

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‘Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. ‘He is weak and ineffective. We have a real problem with the White House. I believe that he will attack Iran sometime prior to the election because he thinks that’s the only way he will get elected. Isn’t it pathetic?’
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Tearing up the Iran Deal - which they were complying with - will go down as one the biggest blunders in US foreign policy in the last 17 years... and that's saying something.
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Tearing up the Iran Deal - which they were complying with - will go down as one the biggest blunders in US foreign policy in the last 17 years... and that's saying something.
I can’t think a a bigger blunder they have made for the last 244 years.

It was torn up simply as it was Obama’s agreement. Petty. And stupid, as it only makes Obama look smarter.
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Old 03.01.2020, 14:42
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it only makes Obama look smarter.
It doesn't take much to make Obama look smarter.

Being smarter is another matter.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump has opened Pandora's box!

The Iranians will not simply fold their tents and go home.

I would not care to be a US soldier in Syria or Iraq today
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Amazing what the republicans will do to get re-elected!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I do wonder though, what Suleimani was doing in Iraq?
He must have thought he was too important to be killed like that.

It will be "interesting" to see what the Iranians are going to do now.

I'm trying to come up with something that looks "adequate enough" in the eyes of the Iranian public but doesn't start WW3 a couple of hours later.

One thing I know for sure is that now would be a very bad time to book a holiday in Israel and be there.
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I do wonder though, what Suleimani was doing in Iraq?
He must have thought he was too important to be killed like that.

It will be "interesting" to see what the Iranians are going to do now.

I'm trying to come up with something that looks "adequate enough" in the eyes of the Iranian public but doesn't start WW3 a couple of hours later.

One thing I know for sure is that now would be a very bad time to book a holiday in Israel and be there.
They will bomb the embassy in Baghdad
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I do wonder though, what Suleimani was doing in Iraq?
He must have thought he was too important to be killed like that.

It will be "interesting" to see what the Iranians are going to do now.

I'm trying to come up with something that looks "adequate enough" in the eyes of the Iranian public but doesn't start WW3 a couple of hours later.

One thing I know for sure is that now would be a very bad time to book a holiday in Israel and be there.
My understanding is Soleimani has traveled quite a bit throughout the middle east for the last 20 years - directing all sorts of military & terroristic efforts (including helping Iraq fight against ISIS). Bush and Obama just considered the assassination of Iran's leaders too significant of an escalation. Assassinating Soleiamani is the equivalent of Iran assassinating the leaders of the Pentagon & the Sec. of Defense. It seems inevitable Iran will respond and this will further escalate.

I completely agree that Israel, or Netanyahu specifically, is a major wildcard here. His election in March determines both if he remains in power and out of jail. As he's a war hawk, he may see an escalating conflict as a way to get the public to look past his corruption.

Dark days ahead.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Khamenei: "You can’t do anything"


Trump: "Hold my beer"
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Shit!! And I just threw away my iodine tablets yesterday!
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Old 03.01.2020, 19:14
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A concise breakdown by Suzie Dawson, Kiwi activist & journalist:

1. Trump didn't buff up the "defence" budgets so heavily for nothing - these events were planned long, long before the pretext for it

2. It was Iraqis that the US killed last weekend and Iraqis that protested at the Embassy but Trump's team is counting on his base not knowing or caring the difference between Iraqis and Iranians

3. Likewise, a Sunni insurgency & their IED's miraculously became Shi'ite overnight

4. Trump has been window-shopping for wars his entire administration. Maybe North Korea, maybe Iran, back to North Korea again, maybe Venezuela, etc. Whether he does this dance to keep the war hawks off his back or is just probing for the softest target, I don't know.

5. The thesis of "Understanding World War III" (written in 2016 with parallels to Nazi Germany) is that World Wars kick off long before they're declared such, and it's only when an opposing force declares War that the War is officially noted as starting. We're here now, or close to it

6. It'll be when one of the targets finally stands up and says "NO MORE" that the shit will really hit the fan. They generally delay doing so as long as possible. Because war benefits no one, except weapons manufacturers and money men. *Everyone* else loses, for generations.

7. War is of course, a brilliant distraction - a gift to narrative managers. The world's falling apart and even the miniscule existing coverage of it will be knocked off TV screens by any war. Protests ignored. Aussies dying in fires we won't hear about. Julian tortured silently

8. I forget who said, "the US has chosen it's battlefield against Iran, & it's Iraq." Seems a sound analysis to me, and also puts paid to the great lie that there was ever going to be a withdrawal of the US from Iraq. Makes recently abandoned Syrian bases little more than theatre

9. The army of pro-war trollbots unleashed on social media in tandem with Pentagon bulletins speaks to prior-planning. This assassination isn't simply a response to current events. It's merely the kinetic part of a full blown military psy-ops operation. US citizens are the target as well as the rest of the citizens of much of the rest of the world, whose blood and treasure fuels the combined machine of what the NSA calls the "global network", in support of each global conflict.

10. Resistance to World War III is going to have to come from within that

11. I wrote pre-Snowden that "it is from within the ranks of the system itself that we shall be emancipated". We had a lot of Iraq War whistleblowers, though mostly too late. We need pre-Iran War whistleblowers now, early enough to make a difference. And media to act differently

12. The United Nations, for all its flaws, was founded on a commitment that there never again be allowed a global conflict to sap and steal from generations of global youth/humanity. Have we learned anything from the past 20 years? The past 120? I think we're soon to find out.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Soleimani is easily replaceable. Not a big problem. After all he was not Mullah. So Iran will not want a full out war because of this
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Soleimani is easily replaceable. Not a big problem. After all he was not Mullah. So Iran will not want a full out war because of this



He was an experienced general, highly popular and a potential presidential candidate, with solid backing........
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And probably also hated by alot of Iranians (being a General in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard)
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Shit. Now I know how people in the 60s and early 80s felt.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Not so popular according to the following and not so easily replaceable:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/02/trum...tivity.Message
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting reading in the Tehran times where they are talking about martyrdom and if there is one thing that can unite the Iranians against a common enemy it´s the smell of burning martyr.

Apart from that the guy has already been replaced by Esmail Gha’ani, it´s starting to look like the neocons are getting a war after all.
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