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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The lies of Trump and his cronies. It's never ending! They lied about all their adventures in the Arab lands. Don't they ever learn.
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Old 04.01.2020, 11:08
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The lies of Trump and his cronies. It's never ending! They lied about all their adventures in the Arab lands. Don't they ever learn.

They have learned that many believe what they want to hear.
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Old 04.01.2020, 11:16
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In the middle of this madness, there are voices in the Middle East urging for a calmer approach.

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First reaction from Turkey to Soleimani’s killing comes from the opposition
Killing of Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander Qasem Soleimani through a U.S. strike in Iraq could be the “beginning of new and bigger problems” in the Middle East, said Turkish opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu on Friday. Kılıçdaroğlu urged President Tayyip Erdoğan to follow a moderate policy regarding the Middle East and keep Turkey away from the ring of fire.
https://www.duvarenglish.com/world/2...he-opposition/
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Old 04.01.2020, 11:20
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In the middle of this madness, there are voices in the Middle East urging for a calmer approach.



https://www.duvarenglish.com/world/2...he-opposition/
They're too busy with their invasion of Libya.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

America kills enemy of America who was plotting to kill Americans.

A man who supported terrorism, was sanctioned by Switzerland for breaking UN resolutions, responsible for the deaths of many, and planning the deaths of many.



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America kills enemy of America who was plotting to kill Americans.

A man who supported terrorism, was sanctioned by Switzerland for breaking UN resolutions, responsible for the deaths of many, and planning the deaths of many.



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You might be misty eyed about it but I think most are just concerned with the toxic can of worms Trump has opened, what it’ll mean for the already messed up region, and how it will affect the wider world. Targets in the region and elsewhere have already started strengthening their security.

Nothing to do with ‘virtue-signalling‘ or being ‘woke’, or any of the other infantile trendy bandwagon labels which get trotted out on here.
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You might be misty eyed about it but I think most are just concerned with the toxic can of worms Trump has opened, what it’ll mean for the already messed up region, and how it will affect the wider world. Targets in the region and elsewhere have already started strengthening their security.

Nothing to do with ‘virtue-signalling‘ or being ‘woke’, or any of the other infantile trendy bandwagon labels which get trotted out on here.
Trump always acts first without thinking. But of course he is a bit limited by his thinking capacity.

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Old 04.01.2020, 15:38
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I do wonder though, what Suleimani was doing in Iraq?
He must have thought he was too important to be killed like that.

It will be "interesting" to see what the Iranians are going to do now.

I'm trying to come up with something that looks "adequate enough" in the eyes of the Iranian public but doesn't start WW3 a couple of hours later.

One thing I know for sure is that now would be a very bad time to book a holiday in Israel and be there.
Iran has drones too so maybe a drone-based action would be seen as proportionate? I doubt they are good enough to fly undetected over the US so where else could they find a senior US person target? Plenty of them in Davos for the WEF in a couple of weeks but probably also too difficult for drone activity?

Trump is claiming he will have a trade deal signing ceremony with the Chinese on January 15th but also too difficult.

Most likely will be attacks on US soldiers in Syria, Iraq and/or Afghanistan.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Maybe sink a few ships in the Straight?
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Rumours are circulating that the US will reintroduce the draft (compulsory Miltary recruitment) to be ready for Iran's worst case.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued an emergency warning about an expected nationwide outbreak of bone spurs.
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Old 04.01.2020, 16:29
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Maybe sink a few ships in the Straight?
An easy option for Iran but now the US is a major oil producer that would somehow miss the target?
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An easy option for Iran but now the US is a major oil producer that would somehow miss the target?
Theres US warships in this region and also an attack in these Straights would have major effect on world trade
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Old 04.01.2020, 20:06
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Theres US warships in this region and also an attack in these Straights would have major effect on world trade
True but Iran wants revenge on the US and to keep the rest of the world as friendly as possible.
Destroying world trade is counterproductive?
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Rumours are circulating that the US will reintroduce the draft (compulsory Miltary recruitment) to be ready for Iran's worst case.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued an emergency warning about an expected nationwide outbreak of bone spurs.
Yeah as if... can you imagine trying to draft an increasingly anti-trump, anti-war libertarian society? There would probably be mass riots and protests. In that case what would they do, draft only the gun-toting rednecks or NRA members? Hmm, actually there's an idea...
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America kills enemy of America who was plotting to kill Americans.

A man who supported terrorism, was sanctioned by Switzerland for breaking UN resolutions, responsible for the deaths of many, and planning the deaths of many.



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Yaaaaaawn.

How about the Americans who don’t want to see their asses (or their kids, other people’s kids, etc) dragged into another resource draining useless war started by the blowhard Putz President and his band of fools who want to distract attention from the corrupt, empty pile of shit that is the current US government.

Who’s the real enemy of America, I wonder.
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Rumours are circulating that the US will reintroduce the draft (compulsory Miltary recruitment) to be ready for Iran's worst case.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued an emergency warning about an expected nationwide outbreak of bone spurs.
And then what?! Send a bunch of untrained youngsters to their certain death? Seriously?!
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And then what?! Send a bunch of untrained youngsters to their certain death? Seriously?!
You just have to send enough of them....

Worked for Russia in WW2 after all.


Seriously - while that generation was way more physically fit for war than the current generation, it's not much different to what happened in the 40s and 50s.

The only place to train for war is in a war.
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Old 04.01.2020, 21:14
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You just have to send enough of them....

Worked for Russia in WW2 after all.


Seriously - while that generation was way more physically fit for war than the current generation, it's not much different to what happened in the 40s and 50s.

The only place to train for war is in a war.
I see, that's why the US is constantly at it.
They just want to play/train, right?
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And then what?! Send a bunch of untrained youngsters to their certain death? Seriously?!
Vietnam over again but with opioids, not marijuana.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

No.

Through the cold-war (and the Atomic Bomb) the US became the hegemon of the world (and the Dollar became the lead currency of the world).

Anything or anybody that threatens this hegemony is fought. Bloodily at times.

As we've been with it for such a long time, nobody really has any idea what it's going to be when all that ends.
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