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Old 05.01.2020, 07:32
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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WW1 repeat scenario?

The immediate cause of World War I was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary.
General consensus today suggests otherwise and a month is no immediate.
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The assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife was critical in setting off the chain of events that led to the First World War. Not only was it a bad day for the Archduke and his family, but also a bad day for Europe. Archduke Franz Ferdinand was heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary. He was inspecting the army in Sarajevo with his wife Sophie. The royal couple arrived by train at 9.28am. Seven young Bosnian Serbs planned to assassinate Franz Ferdinand as he drove along the main road in Sarajevo, the Appel Quay. The first conspirator who tried to kill Franz Ferdinand threw a bomb at his car. He missed and was arrested. The Archduke escaped unhurt. He decided to abandon the visit and return home via a different route to the one planned. No one had told the driver the route had changed. On the way back, therefore, the driver turned into Franz Josef Street, following the published route and, when told of his error, stopped the car to turn around. Unfortunately, the car stopped in front of Gavrilo Princip, one of the conspirators, who was on his way home thinking he had failed. Princip pulled out a gun and shot at Franz Ferdinand, hitting him in the jugular vein. There was a tussle, during which Princip shot and killed Sophie. By 11.30am, Franz Ferdinand had bled to death.
This then led to the cold-blooded World War one. It caused the war because Austria blamed Serbia for the killing of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Then Austria declared war on Serbia, the Russian army got ready to help Serbia defend itself against the attack and Germany sends a demand to Russia ordering it to hold back from helping Serbia. Then Germany declared war on Russia. The French army is put on a war footing getting ready to fight a German invasion. After all of that Germany declares war on France and invades Belgium, Britain orders Germany to withdraw from Belgium and the Germans did not listen. As you can see the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the cause of different events which then led to the war indirectly.
I think the most significant cause of World War one was the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand. The other causes of the war was Imperliasm, Militarism, Nationalism and Alliances that were formed. These were the causes of World War One. Also, everyone wanted to be the best country, which links back to all four causes and aspects of the events.


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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

And now Trump is a numerologist! His latest Tweet at 0030 uhr. Can't this guy sleep?

"Targeting 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!"
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And now Trump is a numerologist! His latest Tweet at 0030 uhr. Can't this guy sleep?

"Targeting 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!"
Admitting a war crime in advance, stable genius.

I see China, Russia and Iran are currently running some joint naval exercises - time to get those iodine pills ready.
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The assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife was critical in setting off the chain of events that led to the First World War. Not only was it a bad day for the Archduke and his family, but also a bad day for Europe. .
Depends on from which angle are you looking at the problem...(and rest assured he wasn't very popular across his empire).

Don't see the connection with what's going on now though?

Whatever will happen/happens has little resemblance with WWI. Apart from the potential of a really bad regional (and beyond) conflict.

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America kills enemy of America who was plotting to kill Americans.

A man who supported terrorism, was sanctioned by Switzerland for breaking UN resolutions, responsible for the deaths of many, and planning the deaths of many.



Cue more hand wringing, virtue signalling, self flagellation, Billie Ellish listeneing, wet eyed, anti American responses from the EF 'woke' brigade.
You seem like an old soul around here. What was your previous incarnation?

And what's that "woke" thing and why is it always used derogatory? I remember being used here by various people, some of whom you wouldn't have expected.... Is it just another insult thrown at people one disagrees with?
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Depends on from which angle are you looking at the problem...(and rest assured he wasn't very popular across his empire).

Don't see the connection with what's going on now though?

Whatever will happen/happens has little resemblance with WWI. Apart from the potential of a really bad regional (and beyond) conflict.
Its to say that a ( relatively ) small incident can set the whole world in flames
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Its to say that a ( relatively ) small incident can set the whole world in flames
Unfortunately...yes.
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Trump, according to the US Constitution, requires Congressional approval before declaring war.
The last president to declare war was FDR, 8 December 1941.

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Depends on from which angle are you looking at the problem...(and rest assured he wasn't very popular across his empire).

Don't see the connection with what's going on now though?

Whatever will happen/happens has little resemblance with WWI. Apart from the potential of a really bad regional (and beyond) conflict.
There is one resemblance, nobody has ever discovered what WW1 was about - what was the deliverable?

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President Trump has defended the attack, saying that it was done to stop a war and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said that the action was due to an "imminent threat" to American lives.

His Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said Saturday that it doesn't have information about any "specific, credible threat" to the U.S. homeland
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The White House has formally notified Congress of the U.S. strike that killed Iranian general Qassem Soleimani.

The Speaker reacted to the notification saying that the entirety of the information conveyed was classified and that she believes it "raises more questions than it answers."

"This document prompts serious and urgent questions about the timing, manner and justification of the Administration’s decision to engage in hostilities against Iran," she said.
The whole business is just Trump running wild
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You seem like an old soul around here. What was your previous incarnation?

And what's that "woke" thing and why is it always used derogatory? I remember being used here by various people, some of whom you wouldn't have expected.... Is it just another insult thrown at people one disagrees with?
I guess, broadly, being aware ("awoken") to the fact that not everyone experiences life/events the same way due to (predominantly) their race and that there is a lot of (historical) injustice. IMO woke tends to be used as a pejorative by folk who don't (want to) understand there are problems. Other folk use it as another way to virtue signal.

If social media is the yardstick to go by then the same folk being sarcastic/attempting woke "irony" are a similar type to those who bitch about #metoo being a dreadful slur on some nice gentlemen. IMO. Obvs.
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I wonder how Trump feels now as a murderer?
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I wonder how Trump feels now as a murderer?
Did you ask yourself the same question after the Osama bin Laden assassination?

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Did you ask yourself the same question after the Obama bin Laden assassination?
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Did you ask yourself the same question after the Obama bin Laden assassination?
Trump probably claimed credit but it was Obama who was responsible for the assassination of Obsama bin Laden.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The law of unintended consequences strikes again!
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Iraq's parliament voted on Sunday to expel the U.S. military from the country after an American airstrike killed top Iranian military commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad, according to The Associated Press.

The resolution passed today reportedly demanded an end to foreign military presence in the country, with the aim of forcing the U.S. to withdraw 5,000 troops. It also calls for ending an agreement that allowed the U.S. to send troops to Iraq to help fight the Islamic State.
Presumably, Trump will simply ignore this so adding to his war crimes?
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The law of unintended consequences strikes again!


Presumably, Trump will simply ignore this so adding to his war crimes?
The vote, after the killing of Maj. General Qassim Suleimani in a U.S. drone strike, is not final until Iraq’s prime minister signs the draft bill.
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I wonder how Trump feels now as a murderer?

Dude, he signs dozens of death-sentences per year for enemy combatants - as did Obama.

All to be killed by drones.

Does it really matter at this point?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Between the vengeance-hungry Iranian leaders and a tweet obsessed, war-mongering US president commanding a heavy military presence in the gulf, it could get messy.

I wouldn't want to be on any commercial airline, or cargo vessel passing anywhere near the Middle East for the foreseeable future.
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