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Old 10.01.2020, 15:09
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He's implying that there is a (perceived or actually existing) loyalty of people of Jewish belief towards the State of Israel, regardless of their nationality.

As I am not Jewish and I don't know anybody who is, it's difficult to assess the validity of these claims (which are often regurgitated by films and books in various forms).
AAMOF, I knew a number of Jews who emigrated to Israel with stars in their eyes but were rapidly disillusioned and returned to their home country.
Due to a generally poor attitude to new arrivals "why weren't you here during the hard times" plus large areas controlled by extreme Ultra-Orthodox religious groups whose regime conflicted with the more relaxed lifestyles people were used to.
I doubt any of these returnees have any loyalty towards the State of Israel.

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics only around three-quarters of Israeli citizens are Jewish.
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Old 10.01.2020, 15:29
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Old 10.01.2020, 15:42
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No, what I am saying is that General Soleimani got what he deserved. He ignored international law habitually, just like the Iranian regime. International law only works when it is followed, selective adherence to it does not work, nor should it.
So you mean they should comply just like the Americans?

Oh hold on.....
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Old 10.01.2020, 16:07
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Story gets ever thinner!
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Old 10.01.2020, 16:16
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Story gets ever thinner!
WMD story repeated successfully once more and this time they are not even pretending to know. We know shit, but we'll shoot him because we can!
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the reason he can't give an answer is NOT because he's spoiled for choice on details...

https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/stat...g-done-well%2F

He's in a Trump rally - it's not as if there was nobody around to ask.
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Old 10.01.2020, 16:56
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The latest Hill-HarrisX survey, which was conducted after the House voted to impeach Trump over his interactions with Ukraine, found that 58 percent of voters said Trump acted improperly, compared to 42 percent who said he acted properly.
Not surprising despite the GOP barrage of invective against everyone involved but nothing from the GOP in the way of facts supporting Trump innocence claims.

Steady leaks now from the US Govt. about the results of the years-long DOJ investigation into the Trump fact-free conspiracy theories that there was a corrupt relationship between the Clintons and a Russian nuclear company and the Clinton Foundation was corrupt. Apparently the inquiry confirmed, "fact-free".
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So you mean they should comply just like the Americans?

Oh hold on.....
Some of the arguments Iíve read are beyond belief. Iíve read that America has broken international law that is equatable with Iran. That Donald Trump is partially to blame for the both the funeral stampede and the downing of a passenger jet. Terrorism of the like carried out by General Soleimani is comparable to interstate warfare carried out in the past by the US and UK. That the behaviour of the US means itís understandable that Iran keep Generals like Soleimani.

I just thank God that the types of people in the West that make these kind of arguments never get let any where near political power!
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Some of the arguments Iíve read are beyond belief. Iíve read that America has broken international law that is equatable with Iran. That Donald Trump is partially to blame for the both the funeral stampede and the downing of a passenger jet. Terrorism of the like carried out by General Soleimani is comparable to interstate warfare carried out in the past by the US and UK. That the behaviour of the US means itís understandable that Iran keep Generals like Soleimani.

I just thank God that the types of people in the West that make these kind of arguments never get let any where near political power!
Indeed. Imagine if these non-interventionists had their way and we stopped getting involved in these messy conflicts. Perish the thought.

Also, invoking God. Please don't, isn't that what got the middle east into the mess it is currently in?
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Some of the arguments I’ve read are beyond belief. I’ve read that America has broken international law that is equatable with Iran. That Donald Trump is partially to blame for the both the funeral stampede and the downing of a passenger jet. Terrorism of the like carried out by General Soleimani is comparable to interstate warfare carried out in the past by the US and UK. That the behaviour of the US means it’s understandable that Iran keep Generals like Soleimani.

I just thank God that the types of people in the West that make these kind of arguments never get let any where near political power!
To be fair, a lot of what you’ve apparently ‘read’ appears to be simply interpretations of what you think people mean.

By what you’ve written, you seem glad that Soleimani is no longer in existence so can we infer from that, that you are in favour of a full resurrection of Islamic State? That seems to be the next logical consequence, right?
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Some of the arguments Iíve read are beyond belief. Iíve read that America has broken international law that is equatable with to Iran. That Donald Trump is partially to blame for the both the funeral stampede and the downing of a passenger jet. Terrorism of the like carried out by General Soleimani is comparable to interstate warfare carried out in the past by the US and UK. That the behaviour of the US means itís understandable that Iran keep keeps Generals like Soleimani.

I just thank God that the types of people in the West that make these kind kinds of arguments never get let any where anywhere near political power!
FTFY
As a matter of interest, which of the over 2,000 Gods has your support?
Unfortunately for your opinions, those types of people will get political power.
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Old 10.01.2020, 19:51
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So for all you out there who want to get the Trump look. Here's how!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
No need for EF-ers. We can get the original Swiss cream Trump uses for Euro 6-something.
The manufacturer says, Trump lays it on a bit thick though. Of course he does
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The cream is not available in the US and Trump probably imports (smuggles?) it in from Mexico. So let that wall come!

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Story gets ever thinner!
Same ol', same ol'. They don't even pretend anymore.
And WTF: <<"I thought we did a dynamite job," Pompeo said. "We did our level best to do present them with all the facts that we could in that setting," he said, adding, "We shared an awful lot with them yesterday.">>

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But maybe lots of people at the embassy died, purely by coincidence of course, but of totally unrelated causes, just at the moment the missile struck.

The German news, you know ...
We did talk about two different things, amogles:
<<Iran promised a proportional retaliation after the strike killing Soleimani, and on Tuesday it launched a missile strike on two Iraqi bases that house U.S. troops. No American casualties were sustained.>>
The Germans said none. Here they say no Americans.
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Indeed. Imagine if these non-interventionists had their way and we stopped getting involved in these messy conflicts. Perish the thought.

Also, invoking God. Please don't, isn't that what got the middle east into the mess it is currently in?
Absolutely not! Religion is the excuse; however a binary Sunni-Shia conflict is no more the root cause than Western interference, Israel or even the Sykes-Picot lines in the sand. Of course these factors have exacerbated the situation however the motivating force for all the issues in the Middle East is far far simpler.

Israel aside, every single country in the region is a totalitarian dictatorship. Every single one! The dictators of these countries are not interested in centuries old Sunni-Shia dispute, unless they can leverage it to secure dominance for themselves in the region and secure absolute power at home. This is why they are at each other’s throats one minute and then forming dirty alliances with one another the next. This is the case in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, the Emirates, Qatar, everywhere!

These dictators don’t care about their people; all they care about is power. They don’t regard legitimacy as coming from the people; they judge it as coming from themselves. Hence they don’t govern for their people and as a result their people suffer. This is the problem, and it's really a simple one.

The only solution is democracy, but this has to come from within the region organically. This is the only way the West can assist, which is the great tragedy of the Arab spring, where the West had the opportunity to support the uprisings both directly and indirectly, and yet did nothing.
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As a matter of interest, which of the over 2,000 Gods has your support?
Unfortunately for your opinions, those types of people will get political power.
There is only one God, and His name is Christ the Lord!
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There is only one God, and His name is Christ the Lord!
Has God died then and Christ taken over.
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There is only one God, and His name is Christ the Lord!
...and that, right there, is where all the problems start.
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There is only one God, and His name is Christ the Lord!
Thank you for your answer? So you are not a follower of the Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity then?
Your answer reflects exactly the theological position taken by American Evangelists.

Meanwhile more problems for Trump
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The NYC de Blasio administration has referred findings from a review of the Trump Organization's property tax filings to the Manhattan district attorney's office, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Friday morning.

In October, WNYC reported that President Donald Trump's business portfolio would cite lower income from its properties when reporting to the Department of Finance, which is in charge of levying property taxes, but would report higher values when speaking with investors.

WNYC cited experts in its report that said the discrepancies in the Trump Organization's reported income may rise to the level of fraud.
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Amen to that.
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Absolutely not! Religion is the excuse; however a binary Sunni-Shia conflict is no more the root cause than Western interference, Israel or even the Sykes-Picot lines in the sand. Of course these factors have exacerbated the situation however the motivating force for all the issues in the Middle East is far far simpler.

Israel aside, every single country in the region is a totalitarian dictatorship. Every single one! The dictators of these countries are not interested in centuries old Sunni-Shia dispute, unless they can leverage it to secure dominance for themselves in the region and secure absolute power at home. This is why they are at each otherís throats one minute and then forming dirty alliances with one another the next. This is the case in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, the Emirates, Qatar, everywhere!

These dictators donít care about their people; all they care about is power. They donít regard legitimacy as coming from the people; they judge it as coming from themselves. Hence they donít govern for their people and as a result their people suffer. This is the problem, and it's really a simple one.

The only solution is democracy, but this has to come from within the region organically. This is the only way the West can assist, which is the great tragedy of the Arab spring, where the West had the opportunity to support the uprisings both directly and indirectly, and yet did nothing.
Well, given that God was invented by man, potato, potahto.
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President Trump said in an interview airing Friday that Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani was plotting attacks against four embassies before the U.S. carried out last week's airstrike that killed the top commander.
Several Democratic senators say the administration did not discuss an alleged threat that Iran was planning to "blow up" a U.S. Embassy during a closed-door briefing this week.

Democrats, however, appeared caught off guard by Trump's allegation, noting it did not come up during a briefing with top administration officials including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, and CIA Director Gina Haspel.

The usual haze of Trump chaos, smoke, mirrors, and lies!
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