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While you're there be careful with whom or what you replace that dictatorship...
Or perhaps that is irrelevant as long as we can claim the "wind of change"?
It's actually quite different compared to all other examples (Iraq, Syria, Tunesia, Egypt, Lybia) as these were all quite secular countries led by a dictator. Iran however is a religious state and that change didn't happen recently in other countries.
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Old 12.01.2020, 15:45
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Iran is the world's last rogue state. . . .
Define Rogue State.
Noam Chomsky, Institute Professor in the Department of Linguistics and Philosophy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, used this term to describe the United States.
https://www.amazon.com/Rogue-States-.../dp/0896086119
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Old 12.01.2020, 16:09
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Define Rogue State.
Noam Chomsky, Institute Professor in the Department of Linguistics and Philosophy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, used this term to describe the United States.
https://www.amazon.com/Rogue-States-.../dp/0896086119

and I'm using it to describe Iran.
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Old 12.01.2020, 16:18
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...I care that a plane has been shot down through sheer incompetence. Will Iran be properly held to account for shooting down a passenger plane? Of course not, because NO ONE is ever properly held to account for shooting down a passenger plane! But that doesn't make it right...
So apparently you believe this was a deliberate act on the part of the Iranian government? Care to share your proof?
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Anyway, I'm outta here. Enjoy your doing down of the US and President Trump.
Some good news on a Sunday, at least. Somehow I doubt he'll keep to his word though.
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Old 12.01.2020, 16:38
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So apparently you believe this was a deliberate act on the part of the Iranian government? Care to share your proof?
Is sheer incompetence the same as deliberate?
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Is sheer incompetence the same as deliberate?
Don‘t think the passengers on the Ukraine flight really gave a toss which it was. The net result was the same.
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Old 12.01.2020, 16:46
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Don‘t think the passengers on the Ukraine flight really gave a toss which it was. The net result was the same.
What's your point? This was about Baboon's statement.
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Old 12.01.2020, 16:48
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Some good news on a Sunday, at least. Somehow I doubt he'll keep to his word though.
He‘s only flounced because he‘s got his knickers in a twist through (wilfully?) misinterpreting that people support Iran and ‘hate‘ Trump then argued himself into a corner.
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What's your point? This was about Baboon's statement.
My point is that to the people that really matter in all this; the ones blown up over the Iranian countryside, whether it was deliberate or accidental is irrelevant.
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Old 12.01.2020, 17:07
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My point is that to the people that really matter in all this; the ones blown up over the Iranian countryside, whether it was deliberate or accidental is irrelevant.
Of course, and we all understand that and the same counts for any use of violence against innocent people.
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Old 12.01.2020, 19:51
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Is sheer incompetence the same as deliberate?
When he writes:
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Will Iran be properly held to account for shooting down a passenger plane
Then yes.
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Old 12.01.2020, 20:26
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Some good news on a Sunday, at least. Somehow I doubt he'll keep to his word though.
Your crystal ball is on fire today. Sure enough he’s back, dragging this thread over to the brexit thread.
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Anyway, I'm outta here. Enjoy your doing down of the US and President Trump.
I'm sure that president Trump, the American and the Iranian people will find the concern you have expressed for them touching.
Incidentally, where did you learn your English ?
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16 years in prison for burning a flag.
Nobody got 16 years for burning a flag, there was much more to the story that the sensationalist rubbish headline.

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Old 12.01.2020, 21:01
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Nobody got 16 years for burning a flag, there was much more to the story that the sensationalist rubbish headline.

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Nevertheless, it illustrates an arbitrary system of justice where a relatively trivial act, that of burning a flag, can be escalated to a "hate crime" and lead to draconian penalties.

Source: https://nypost.com/2019/12/20/iowa-m...d-to-16-years/
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....... Iran have FINALLY been held to account for their proxies and their terrorism. This move has shown, whether intentionally or not, that in future they will be held directly responsible for their terrorist actions. ........
So please do share with us what exactly Iran is doing differently since the murder, so far as I can see there is zero change.
For example, the tragic deaths and injuries of US service members in Afghanistan.

Edit; Eight Katyusha rockets hit Iraq’s Balad Air Base today, wounding four Iraqi air force officers, according to a statement released by the Iraqi military.
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Nevertheless, it illustrates an arbitrary system of justice where a relatively trivial act, that of burning a flag, can be escalated to a "hate crime" and lead to draconian penalties.

Source: https://nypost.com/2019/12/20/iowa-m...d-to-16-years/
Will never happen in the EU; EU flags are made of fireproof materials.
There are some videos around of clowns trying to set them alight.
https://youtu.be/TQRg7wH_FC0
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Will never happen in the EU; EU flags are made of fireproof materials.
There are some videos around of clowns trying to set them alight.
https://youtu.be/TQRg7wH_FC0
The comments are hilarious. It's like he intended to play in a parody, only it was dead serious...
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Nevertheless, it illustrates an arbitrary system of justice where a relatively trivial act, that of burning a flag, can be escalated to a "hate crime" and lead to draconian penalties.

Source: https://nypost.com/2019/12/20/iowa-m...d-to-16-years/
No, it doesn't. It represents a nutter with a long history of hate crimes finally getting his come-uppence. The flag-burning is nothing more than a side show in his story.
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