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Old 27.03.2020, 00:39
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Sorry but the fact that the government are in effect nationalizing airlines to me is a good thing.
Yeh. right. Amtrak can't even keep a train on rails.
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Yeh. right. Amtrak can't even keep a train on rails.
They, Amtrak, given the numbers of crashes, mismanagement and delays, should probably nationalized too!
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Old 27.03.2020, 00:54
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They, Amtrak, given the numbers of crashes, mismanagement and delays, should probably nationalized too!
Basically it is nationalized in a subsidized manner.
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Old 27.03.2020, 21:19
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

According to worldometers site, the US is the country with most virus cases, ca. 86,000, and the outlook is not good while Trump continues in denial.

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The president phoned into Sean Hannity's show on Fox News, where he swiped at the governors of Michigan and Washington state and cast doubt on the need for mass ventilator production to meet the demand of certain states.

"I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be," Trump said on "Hannity."

"I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You know, you go into major hospitals, sometimes they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they're saying, 'Can we order 30,000 ventilators?'"
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According to worldometers site, the US is the country with most virus cases, ca. 86,000, and the outlook is not good while Trump continues in denial.
Marton, the US has the most outbreaks because they are performing more tests than any other country at present (mosts tests coming from New York which is considered to be a "hot spot" at present). More tests will equal more numbers infected. As a reference, in Zurich to my knowledge, if you are under 65 years of age and have no pre-existing or underlying condition, you will not be tested. So the numbers in Zurich (not sure about the other cantons' policies) are perhaps understated.

More important to me is to look at mortality rates as a percentage of those infected. Both the US and Switzerland look very good in terms of numbers infected and mortality rates published (published being the operative word here )
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Old 27.03.2020, 21:34
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As usual with “this” General Motors, things just never seem to work out.
They said they were going to give us 40,000 much needed Ventilators, “very quickly”.
Now they are saying it will only be 6000, in late April, and they want top dollar.
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Looks like the great negotiator is not winning today; both GM and Ford are smart enough to demand some billions upfront instead of trusting Spanky who has a reputation for not paying...

Spanky also has difficulty understanding that volume production of ventilators cannot start before the factories are reequipped and the workers retrained; currently looks like some time in June before such production can start.
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Old 27.03.2020, 21:39
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Basically it is nationalized in a subsidized manner.
I wonder if it keeps. Miss it.

Don't think Trump is to be blamed for Amtrak, though. Seems people prefer cars no matter what. I felt like a lunetic taking a train across the US.
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Old 27.03.2020, 21:44
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Looks like the great negotiator is not winning today; both GM and Ford are smart enough to demand some billions upfront instead of trusting Spanky who has a reputation for not paying...

Spanky also has difficulty understanding that volume production of ventilators cannot start before the factories are reequipped and the workers retrained; currently looks like some time in June before such production can start.
The US placed an order in Bonaduz worth 10-million franks in March. Guess that wasn't Trump?

sorry, German
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Old 27.03.2020, 21:47
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I wonder if it keeps. Miss it.

Don't think Trump is to be blamed for Amtrak, though. Seems people prefer cars no matter what. I felt like a lunetic taking a train across the US.
Amtrak is too expensive for much of the population. Many couldn't fathom even traveling across the country at all.
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Old 27.03.2020, 21:49
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Marton, the US has the most outbreaks because they are performing more tests than any other country at present (mosts tests coming from New York which is considered to be a "hot spot" at present). More tests will equal more numbers infected. As a reference, in Zurich to my knowledge, if you are under 65 years of age and have no pre-existing or underlying condition, you will not be tested. So the numbers in Zurich (not sure about the other cantons' policies) are perhaps understated.

More important to me is to look at mortality rates as a percentage of those infected. Both the US and Switzerland look very good in terms of numbers infected and mortality rates published (published being the operative word here )
Today's numbers show the US touching 100,000 cases so well ahead of other countries.

It may well be that as ever more tests are conducted worldwide then the situation will change. Today we can only work with the numbers we know, everything else is speculation?

Deaths are a lagging indicator so we have to wait at least some weeks before we can have any confidence in published mortality rates.
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Old 27.03.2020, 21:56
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The US placed an order in Bonaduz worth 10-million franks in March. Guess that wasn't Trump?

sorry, German
Peanuts!
ca. 200 ventilators; current estimates are the US needs hundreds of thousands (New York alone 30,000).
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Old 27.03.2020, 22:01
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Peanuts!
ca. 200 ventilators; current estimates are the US needs hundreds of thousands (New York alone 30,000).
My point was not the amount. It was the order in March.
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Old 27.03.2020, 23:58
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My point was not the amount. It was the order in March.
A week ago, so what?

Why do you think the order came from Trump (Federal) and not from a US hospital or State?
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Old 28.03.2020, 03:17
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Looks like the great negotiator is not winning today; both GM and Ford are smart enough to demand some billions upfront instead of trusting Spanky who has a reputation for not paying...

Spanky also has difficulty understanding that volume production of ventilators cannot start before the factories are reequipped and the workers retrained; currently looks like some time in June before such production can start.
Trump seems to think that GM will start supplying ventilators in April (according to hIs tweet). But more interestingly, why is he panicking and exhorting Ford and GM (in all-caps) to produce tens of thousands of ventilators NOW!!! when he just told Hannity that in his expert, estimable opinion, two per hospital is just dandy?
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A week ago, so what?

Why do you think the order came from Trump (Federal) and not from a US hospital or State?
I explicitly meant they did not come from Trump. Sorry I forgot to put a sarcasm-emoticon there.

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Trump seems to think that GM will start supplying ventilators in April (according to hIs tweet). But more interestingly, why is he panicking and exhorting Ford and GM (in all-caps) to produce tens of thousands of ventilators NOW!!! when he just told Hannity that in his expert, estimable opinion, two per hospital is just dandy?
I read that they wanted a million dollars to get their factories ready and Trumpy refused. So why is he tweeting they will produce now?

Ah, sorry, stupid question
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Why do they need ventilators at all? I thought Trump said it would be all over and things getting back to normal by Easter.

Meanwhile:

"The attorney general of Texas on Friday issued a legal opinion deeming gun stores "essential services" during the pandemic - firearm shops across the US have reported soaring sales thanks to Covid-19"

https://www.bbc.com/news/52071611

Only in America.
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Trump seems to think that GM will start supplying ventilators in April (according to hIs tweet). But more interestingly, why is he panicking and exhorting Ford and GM (in all-caps) to produce tens of thousands of ventilators NOW!!! when he just told Hannity that in his expert, estimable opinion, two per hospital is just dandy?
under those confusing circumstances, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any more ventilators to become available.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Poor old Grandpaw getting confused again
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General Motors sold the shuttered Lordstown facility in November 2019.
Trump had applauded the potential sale in a tweet in May 2019.

General Motors said last Friday some of the ventilators will be built in GM's Kokomo, Indiana, electronics assembly plant. The first of these ventilators are expected to be delivered in April.

Ford has announced it is working with GE Healthcare to increase the production of GE's ventilators, GE Healthcare said it is planning to double its output by the end of June.

All companies are looking for alternative suppliers of the parts needed to make ventilators to avoid supply bottlenecks.
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Poor old Grandpaw getting confused again


General Motors sold the shuttered Lordstown facility in November 2019.
Trump had applauded the potential sale in a tweet in May 2019.

General Motors said last Friday some of the ventilators will be built in GM's Kokomo, Indiana, electronics assembly plant. The first of these ventilators are expected to be delivered in April.

Ford has announced it is working with GE Healthcare to increase the production of GE's ventilators, GE Healthcare said it is planning to double its output by the end of June.

All companies are looking for alternative suppliers of the parts needed to make ventilators to avoid supply bottlenecks.
Anything mentioned on their expected MPG?
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What is sad to me is the partisan politics at play. Let's just put small businesses at risk because we, in Congress/Senate need to WIN. And so forget about the people you are supposed to be representing. Winning is everything; screw the people... What a travesty on all levels! And those small businesses left adrift because of politics! Shame on Dems in my view... They agreed in principle and then reneged. At what cost exactly?
I would say that if I was a lawyer with the relevant knowledge I could shoot down any argument your might present about being a “free” citizen. And all the rest that goes with it.

Who in their right mind believes that politicians represent the average voter?

Do they speak on the behalf of the citizen? Or do they speak on behalf of the elite?
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