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Old 06.04.2020, 00:02
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AOC is a long way down the food chain.
Let's hope Marton!
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AOC is a long way down the food chain.
She is. She's just a first-time senator. And yet she's got Trump petrified. She even rated a mention from Trump in his petty, juvenile letter to Schumer the other day. There has never been a thinner-skinned, more vulnerable president than Trump.
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Old 06.04.2020, 07:56
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She is. She's just a first-time senator. And yet she's got Trump petrified. She even rated a mention from Trump in his petty, juvenile letter to Schumer the other day. There has never been a thinner-skinned, more vulnerable president than Trump.
Member of the House of Representatives. Two year term. Senators are there for six years. Pretty sure she‘ll be Re-elected though.
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You're trying to deflect.

It's about you being inconsistent. If he's a compulsive liar everything he says is suspicious because you can't know when he's lying. Whether certain statements conform with or support your opinion is of no relevance.

In fact a statement of a compulsive liar that conforms with yours should make you question your own position.
Being a compulsive (or in Trumps case 'Pathological' would be the more appropriate term) liar 90% of the time doesn't mean that you can't or won't tell the truth 10% of the time, or that when you do tell the truth people are not able to realise this from the context of the situation and their own knowledge.

Pathological liars like Trump lie when they want to deflect attention from something, or when they don't know something, or when it's basically just in their general interests, for whatever reason, to lie; even if anyone listening immediately knows it's a lie, which in Trumps case is the vast majority of the time as he is so blatant, unconvincing and uninformed.

I think it is very clear Urs, from your gazillion similarly confusing posts on similar topics, that an understanding of the finer points of human behaviour in general is not in your repertoire of skills.
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Member of the House of Representatives. Two year term. Senators are there for six years. Pretty sure she‘ll be Re-elected though.
Right, apologies. Also right about re-election.
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I'd say Trump is a compulsive liar rather than pathological, from what I understand of the terms. Either way his dangerous lunacy is going to cost thousands of lives. Surely the same folk suffering now can't re-elect him, can they?
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Now you are trolling, this thread is not about me.

However assuming your post was on topic, I could not help you as I have never described Trump as a compulsive liar.
As I said, you're trying to deflect.
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A compulsive liar does not lie at all times. A compulsive liar can truthfully say, "I'm hungry," then lie that he has no money to buy food.

Trump lies compulsively but also whines like a little girl when things don't go his way. In some of those instances, his whines are even true.
Sure, that's just not the point. You can't take a liar's words as the truth merely because it supports your opinion. That's simply self-contradicting.
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...Surely the same folk suffering now can't re-elect him, can they?
Not if they're dead.

Jokes aside, Trump has sort of gotten his act together and is sort of coordinating a response. He's set a "goal" limit of 100-200k fatalities from the disease. If the number comes in at the lower limit or below that then he'll be in a pretty strong position. Biden meanwhile is sidelined self-isolating at home.

Trump is worried about the economy and now that he's awake he'll try to make sure it gets back to business as usual ASAP.

From what I've seen, Trump supporters do not waver and neither do Trump haters. Both camps are firmly set in their beliefs, with a small number of people in the middle ground.

I think the election will hinge on whatever new things pop up between now and then, how the economy fares, and who Biden chooses as a running mate.
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Old 06.04.2020, 13:41
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Or if one of them dies of old age before the election.
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Sure, that's just not the point. You can't take a liar's words as the truth merely because it supports your opinion. That's simply self-contradicting.
That makes absolutely no logical sense.

If a pathological liar tells the accepted truth about something, then its still the truth and can thus support an opinion. A pathological liar does not only lie... especially when he is like, you know... The President Of The Unites States.

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Or if one of them dies of old age before the election.
I was wondering about that. Should Trump die from corona, who will run? (I'm not talking about the rest-time, when the vice president takes over).
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Old 06.04.2020, 14:26
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I was wondering about that. Should Trump die from corona, who will run? (I'm not talking about the rest-time, when the vice president takes over).
If Trump dies from anything while in office, Pence takes over.

The Republican national convention is planned for August. If Trump died before that, the delegates to the convention could choose to throw their support behind Pence as the R nominee, and probably would. Others could also pop up and express their desire to be the nominee but I doubt they'd gain much traction.

If Trump wins the election again (thus becoming president-elect) but dies before Jan. 20, 2021 the 20th amendment provides for the vice-president elect to take the office.

You can google this stuff all day - there was widespread speculation in 2016 about what could happen given the ages of Trump and Clinton. That's the same today, with the ages of Trump (74 in June) and Biden (77).
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If Trump dies from anything while in office, Pence takes over.

The Republican national convention is planned for August. If Trump died before that, the delegates to the convention could choose to throw their support behind Pence as the R nominee, and probably would. Others could also pop up and express their desire to be the nominee but I doubt they'd gain much traction.

If Trump wins the election again (thus becoming president-elect) but dies before Jan. 20, 2021 the 20th amendment provides for the vice-president elect to take the office.

You can google this stuff all day - there was widespread speculation in 2016 about what could happen given the ages of Trump and Clinton. That's the same today, with the ages of Trump (74 in June) and Biden (77).
..and a bonus info for all parties interested. If the vice president also becomes incapacitated, the speaker of the house will take over.
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..and a bonus info for all parties interested. If the vice president also becomes incapacitated, the speaker of the house will take over.
Trump fans' worst nightmare - President Pelosi.
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Not if they're dead.

Jokes aside, Trump has sort of gotten his act together and is sort of coordinating a response. He's set a "goal" limit of 100-200k fatalities from the disease. If the number comes in at the lower limit or below that then he'll be in a pretty strong position. Biden meanwhile is sidelined self-isolating at home.

Trump is worried about the economy and now that he's awake he'll try to make sure it gets back to business as usual ASAP.

From what I've seen, Trump supporters do not waver and neither do Trump haters. Both camps are firmly set in their beliefs, with a small number of people in the middle ground.

I think the election will hinge on whatever new things pop up between now and then, how the economy fares, and who Biden chooses as a running mate.
here we disagree. Trump hasn‘t even sort of gotten his act together. He‘s just got people of varying competence doing the heavy lifting. Or lifting. If anything, as soon as he opens his mouth, it‘s one (or more) steps backwards.
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As I said, you're trying to deflect.

Sure, that's just not the point. You can't take a liar's words as the truth merely because it supports your opinion. That's simply self-contradicting.
Stating that you are putting words in my mouth that I never posted is deflecting?

OK, whatever!
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Ocasio's NOT a senator.

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Really? AOC worse than coronavirus?
Yes.

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Looks like another Inspector General will be gone soon
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Hospitals across the country reported serious shortages of tests and protective equipment in the fight against coronavirus and concerns about being able to keep health workers safe, according to a new Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General report.
Trump should be managing this centrally and not encouraging the States to have a survival of the fittest battle.
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Yes.

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It’s like a scene from Monty Python

Patient struggling to breathe.
Doctor comes in - we’re going to put you on a vent.
Non clinical admin - don’t worry. It could be worse. AOC could be president.
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