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Old 08.04.2020, 15:03
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I doubt she has a real chance against McConnell but certainly making a great start.
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's Democratic opponent Amy McGrath outraised the longtime Republican senator in the first quarter of 2020 as Kentucky’s Senate race emerges as one of the most expensive battles of the election cycle.

McGrath, who has received a litany of endorsements from national Democratic figures, reported raising $12.8 million in the first three months of 2020 and ended the period with $14.7 million cash on hand. McConnell hauled in $7.5 million and finished the first quarter of the year with $14.9 million in the bank in his bid for a seventh Senate term.
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I doubt she has a real chance against McConnell but certainly making a great start.


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Concurrent with a presidential election in deep red Kentucky she has absolutely no chance whatsoever. IIRC every state up in 2016 was won by the same party that won the presidential election in that state. Split ticketing is getting less and less common.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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A majority of registered voters (52%:38%) said they think that former President Obama would do a better job at handling the coronavirus pandemic than President Trump according to a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll released on Wednesday.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

So it will definitely be Biden v Trump -- assuming no death or other incapacity on either side before November. No surprise there.

Bernie Sanders has suspended his campaign for the Democratic nomination.

It's a shame he can't run as an independent. When I say can't, I mean won't, as he would rip the Democrat vote apart. The guy appears to be the most genuine, dedicated, selfless politician in living memory.
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So it will definitely be Biden v Trump -- assuming no death or other incapacity on either side before November. No surprise there.

Bernie Sanders has suspended his campaign for the Democratic nomination.

It's a shame he can't run as an independent. When I say can't, I mean won't, as he would rip the Democrat vote apart. The guy appears to be the most genuine, dedicated, selfless politician in living memory.
Would Biden really run for president now, or would there be a surprise candidate?
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So it will definitely be Biden v Trump -- assuming no death or other incapacity on either side before November. No surprise there.
So after years of bashing Trump this guy is the best they can muster up? Yikes...
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Would Biden really run for president now, or would there be a surprise candidate?
Might be a surprise candidate but with the coronavirus precautions probably blocking Conventions for a long time I do not see how the Dems could organise the necessary support for a new one in a timely way.
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Would Biden really run for president now, or would there be a surprise candidate?
A candidate needs 1,991 delegates at the Democratic National Convention to win the nomination. Biden already has 1,217 and Sanders a further 914. There are only 1,678 undeclared delegates remaining. With Sanders having declared that he will remain on the ballot for upcoming primaries, in the hope of collecting more delegates in order to have some real influence on policy formulation at the Convention, any candidate other than Biden or Sanders has no chance of clearing the 1,991 delegate hurdle.

So, it will be Biden, unless it won't*. In that case, all those interested will jump straight back into the race and the most popular centrist candidate might expect to pick up Biden's delegates. Pete Buttigieg might yet be duking it out with Michael Bloomberg for the Democrat nomination.


* You know, death or other incapacity. These are the things you have to consider when the US keeps throwing up these septuagenarian candidates.
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So after years of bashing Trump this guy is the best they can muster up? Yikes...
I think that most intelligent people "bash" Trump. He's a psychopath and a pathological liar. He's literally been diagnosed as a psychopath by hundreds of psychiatrists. But I would like to point out that there is a difference between "bashing" someone and calling out someone's bull**** for the bull**** that it is.
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I give a major antiglobalism credit to Trump and anti EU credit (which is antiglobal as well) to B.Johnson and EEs.

Now ..who to credit an anti FB and anti Twitter movements?
Well, Trump talks a good antiglobalism line but what has he actually achieved to further this agenda?
He has claimed his tariffs have forced manufacturing back to the US and while it is true there was an uplift in US manufacturing output after his election it has now fallen back again, see the graph.
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While the picture looks better for manufacturing employees, in Trump's time there was so far an increase of ca. 4% but the rate of increase is no better than Obama achieved. Overall it is a long way down from its peak in the '80s, see the graph.

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Not entirely Trump's fault but the post coronavirus recession will likely hit manufacturing hard.
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I think that most intelligent people "bash" Trump. He's a psychopath and a pathological liar. He's literally been diagnosed as a psychopath by hundreds of psychiatrists. But I would like to point out that there is a difference between "bashing" someone and calling out someone's bull**** for the bull**** that it is.
I'm going to call BS on your claim that hundreds of psychiatrists diagnosed him as a psychopath. Sounds like sensationalist nonsense.

Anyway, the point I was making is that the Democrats have been bashing him as incompetent and unfit for office for four years now yet in all this time the best that thyy can rustle up is senile Joe Biden.
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I'm going to call BS on your claim that hundreds of psychiatrists diagnosed him as a psychopath. Sounds like sensationalist nonsense.

Anyway, the point I was making is that the Democrats have been bashing him as incompetent and unfit for office for four years now yet in all this time the best that thyy can rustle up is senile Joe Biden.
Your post is quite inconsistent with how I would expect you to react...

Yay for Biden?

Those who will actually criticize Biden's nomination are not Trumps supporters, they are in my vision people who want the best for the US, no matter who gets voted in.

I think Dems pushed Biden in so they can spend another 4 years blaming Trump for all American issues out there.
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Your post is quite inconsistent with how I would expect you to react...

Yay for Biden?

Those who will actually criticize Biden's nomination are not Trumps supporters, they are in my vision people who want the best for the US, no matter who gets voted in.

I think Dems pushed Biden in so they can spend another 4 years blaming Trump for all American issues out there.
An interesting persecutive. Not sure all Dems are as petty as you seem to think but that's life. Trump seems to be the one who wants to blame everything on someone else.

I think the general consensus is that Trump's a narcississt (by people who think he‘s got undesirable personality characteristics).

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I'm going to call BS on your claim that hundreds of psychiatrists diagnosed him as a psychopath. Sounds like sensationalist nonsense.
Not sure about psychopath but you'll find plenty calling him a Sociopath. Just google it.

This for example

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...fessor-1468441
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An interesting persecutive. Not sure all Dems are as petty as you seem to think but that's life. Trump seems to be the one who wants to blame everything on someone else.

I think the general consensus is that Trump's a narcississt (by people who think he‘s got undesirable personality characteristics).
Again, he got you and others where he wanted you: discussing some vague invectives and personal hates. Dems nominated somebody who will not withstand the fight. Trump's entire impact and show was geared that way.

But if you want to discuss petty things, yeah - people think Trump is a narcissist and they also tend to label narcissist anyone who disagrees with them. Now, who's the real narcissist then, beats me. While Trumps keeps marching towards his goal. It will be up to people who will decide between a narcissist with some results and a weak candidate they do not know yet. I am disappointed, thought there would be some progress.
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Again, he got you and others where he wanted you: discussing some vague invectives and personal hates. Dems nominated somebody who will not withstand the fight. Trump's entire impact and show was geared that way.

But if you want to discuss petty things, yeah - people think Trump is a narcissist and they also tend to label narcissist anyone who disagrees with them. Now, who's the real narcissist then, beats me. While Trumps keeps marching towards his goal. It will be up to people who will decide between a narcissist with some results and a weak candidate they do not know yet. I am disappointed, thought there would be some progress.
I would also be happy to discuss that his accomplishments are minimal. Is that substantive enough.
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I would also be happy to discuss that his accomplishments are minimal. Is that substantive enough.
I think here in Europe you will find more people interested in debating over what needs to be done, looking forward, to be completely honest. And who can realistically deliver that. I would start there in your situation.
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I think here in Europe you will find more people interested in debating over what needs to be done, looking forward, to be completely honest. And who can realistically deliver that. I would start there in your situation.
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I think Dems pushed Biden in so they can spend another 4 years blaming Trump for all American issues out there.
I disagree. This was internal, about the direction the party is, or should be, headed.

The push for Biden was a reaction to fear of Sanders. Or perhaps more accurately, a fear of Bernie Bros (which is not quite the same thing as the progressive wing) and their polarizing behavior. I would guess the thought was that many progressives could find their way to vote for any democrat at this point, while many most swing voters would not be able to vote for Bernie.

A mistake, IMO. Biden has the least to offer of the candidates. I suppose he was thought to be the least offensive to the other side, whoever that other side might be.

My hope now is on Biden's choice of VP and cabinet. If he can pull together a unity administration ('Team of Rivals' style), including progressives and moderates, including both sides of the aisle, we just might muddle through as a country.

I am not happy that Biden is the nominee - but I'll vote for him. As my ray of comic sunshine in these troubling times, Randy Rainbow, said, 'Any Dem Will Do':

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I would see "any Dem will do" as a lack of progress. I would see "anyone who delivers results" as progress. This 2 parties system is unintelligent.
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