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The 2 party system is only a tad better than Putin's autocracy, tbh. It is a strange idea of political freedom and democracy that they have in the US. But at least people still can vote. Yay?
Hopefully, though Trump admitted himself that R‘s can‘t have everyone voting, or else they‘d loose (I think this was April 2)

Anyway, here‘s some writing on voter suppression in the US.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/5107502002/

But yeah....two party system really sucks.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

One does have to wonder about Trump!
Here he is sharing a tweet requesting his top coronavirus scientific adviser Fauci be fired.
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Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could've saved more lives.

Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large.

Time to #FireFauci...
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Hopefully, though Trump admitted himself that R‘s can‘t have everyone voting, or else they‘d loose (I think this was April 2)

Anyway, here‘s some writing on voter suppression in the US.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/5107502002/
Has there ever been cases of voting fraud / inconsistencies that could necessitate the need for stricter voting protocols / 'voter supression'?
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Has there ever been cases of voting fraud / inconsistencies that could necessitate the need for stricter voting protocols / 'voter supression'?
Voter fraud is different than voter suppression. Voter fraud is dead people voting, illegal aliens casting ballots, etc., and that‘s not so common.

Voter suppression is removal of people from rolls, impediments to people who should have access, and there are instances of that. I have to find some references, will check later. But what happened in Milwaukee for the primary, not allowing mail in voting, and forcing people to stand in line for hours is voter suppression.

It‘s not stricter protocols, it‘s making it easier to vote. Because truth be told, voter fraud is rare.
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Voter fraud is different than voter suppression. Voter fraud is dead people voting, illegal aliens casting ballots, etc., and that‘s not so common.

Voter suppression is removal of people from rolls, impediments to people who should have access, and there are instances of that. I have to find some references, will check later. But what happened in Milwaukee for the primary, not allowing mail in voting, and forcing people to stand in line for hours is voter suppression.

It‘s not stricter protocols, it‘s making it easier to vote. Because truth be told, voter fraud is rare.
The argument I've heard is that by making it 'easier' to vote could also mean making it easier to cheat / commit voter fraud.
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The argument I've heard is that by making it 'easier' to vote could also mean making it easier to cheat / commit voter fraud.
Indeed. All the evidence I‘ve seen suggests that cheating is quite rare. It is, as one might imagine a highly political issue. I am in the middle of an assignment for my German class, so will have t come back to this.
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Pages and pages of this and Trump is still a horrendous President.
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The argument I've heard is that by making it 'easier' to vote could also mean making it easier to cheat / commit voter fraud.
making it 'easier' to vote is not the same as making it 'easier' to register to vote
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Pages and pages of this and Trump is still a horrendous President.
It's almost as if Marton's 8000+ posts on the matter have achieved sweet FA.

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It's almost as if Marton's 8000+ posts on the matter have achieved sweet FA.
I think it is sweet you have high expectations of our community, I agree, lots of genuine investment. But we did not improve US political landscape nor treated Coronavirus, despite the quality investment of out membership. But the info still helps a lot, as long as people have a place to share.

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The argument I've heard is that by making it 'easier' to vote could also mean making it easier to cheat / commit voter fraud.
Here‘s a piece from the guardian that summarizes it..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ocracy-america
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making it 'easier' to vote is not the same as making it 'easier' to register to vote
Haha, this.
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Here‘s a piece from the guardian that summarizes it..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ocracy-america
Most of the issues raised in the article seem to amount to a sensible form of quality control.
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Most of the issues raised in the article seem to amount to a sensible form of quality control.
In your view........


But it’s hotly contested against partisan lines. When R’s suggest that they’ll loose when everyone who may vote does vote, I find it interesting.

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The issues or the solutions?
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In your view........

But it’s hotly contested against partisan lines. When R’s suggest that they’ll loose when everyone who may vote does vote, I find it interesting.
Klar, it's like if you allowed all the children to vote I'm sure most of them would vote for the party that promises them free stuff without any personal responsibility.

By the way it's lose, not loose.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Seems Trump wants to start a 10th Amendment battle with the State Governors.
The Governors locked down the individual States, not Trump.
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For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government.
Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect.
It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons.
With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue.
A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!
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Trump has a strange way of constructing his tweets. Looks like he wants it to read like a legal document but it somehow fails.
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Klar, it's like if you allowed all the children to vote I'm sure most of them would vote for the party that promises them free stuff without any personal responsibility.

By the way it's lose, not loose.
Ahhhhhhh. Personal responsibility. Ok then. Anyway, it was a typo but thanks for the correction.

Free stuff....like corporate welfare? Gotcha.
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Not sure if it's much of a good idea for an GOP candidate to pose with foreign-made chainsaw. Sure, it's Swiss made so that may excuse him since quality rules, but still...
Stihl is German. Do they manufacture in Switzerland? I know they have extensive manufacturing facilities in the US, so maybe Billy-Bob's chainsaw was locally made, after all.
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