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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Karma!

A big fight between Dems and GOP in recent weeks where Dems wanted to delay the Wisconsin election due to virus, GOP pushed holding the election all the way up the Supreme Court.

So the election was held & the result?
Conservative Justice Daniel Kelly, an incumbent backed by President Donald Trump, was defeated by Liberal Dane County Judge Jill Karofsky for a State Supreme Court seat.

Meanwhile, at last night's coronavirus briefing Trump showed a 3-minute campaign-style film clip claiming Trump's decisions on the virus were the best. Neither CNN nor MSNBC showed that segment.
It is bad form for a President to use an official event for campaigning.
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Hopefully, though Trump admitted himself that R‘s can‘t have everyone voting, or else they‘d loose (I think this was April 2)

Anyway, here‘s some writing on voter suppression in the US.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/5107502002/

But yeah....two party system really sucks.
Most countries have a two party system if we are to be honest with ourselves. Lately the "marginals" from both ends gained more power in Europe, but if you look carefully there are two main parties in most countries I can speak of. I'm not fascinated by the far-right, neither by the far-left. They succeeded in seducing lots of people in certain countries, the most notable example is Italy.

Two party system sucks, true, but I don't see any country having a "clean" third major party right now. They don't have the critical mass of supporters.
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Uhm, could be German, dunno. Doesn't make a material difference either way in the given context.
When avoiding foreign stuff I'd say the selection goes by brand, not where it was manufactured. Otherwise the best you could do in many cases is select by location of final assembly.
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Flipping Norma - wow

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPoli...5913786792402/
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He's bashing others so they bash him back and he likes to provoke I think.

But psychopath? I don't know. Diagnosed just by watching his behaviour and Twitter account? I think he's acting most of the time tbh. I would compare his acting with playing poker. He's got "poker faces" - a whole repertoire. He's bombastic and he's boasting and he entertains.
To me it seems the Dems have chosen someone with common sense and the exact opposite of Trump, but half of Americans won't like it. Because they (maybe people, in general) have a type (see above). I hope I'm wrong and have no ing idea what I'm talking about.

Btw, why Bernie Sanders dropped out of the race? Did he give any reasons?
No, Trump has been diagnosed due to his behavior in general. Psychopathy is loosely defined as a lack of empathy, but there are specific criteria for it (e.g. in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), and most psychopaths exhibit very similar behavioral patterns such as egotism / narcissism, blame-shifting, etc. Look up the term "corporate psychopath."

"Corporate psychopaths typically humiliate others publicly, ridicule coworkers, lie compulsively, and take credit for others' accomplishments, just to name a few. They are also often superficially charming, egotistical, and emotionally disconnected."
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Profes...te_Psychopaths
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No, Trump has been diagnosed due to his behavior in general. Psychopathy is loosely defined as a lack of empathy, but there are specific criteria for it (e.g. in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), and most psychopaths exhibit very similar behavioral patterns such as egotism / narcissism, blame-shifting, etc. Look up the term "corporate psychopath."

"Corporate psychopaths typically humiliate others publicly, ridicule coworkers, lie compulsively, and take credit for others' accomplishments, just to name a few. They are also often superficially charming, egotistical, and emotionally disconnected."
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Profes...te_Psychopaths
So have you got a source for your claim that "he's literally been diagnosed as a psychopath by hundreds of psychiatrists" or was it just nonsense?
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So have you got a source for your claim that "he's literally been diagnosed as a psychopath by hundreds of psychiatrists" or was it just nonsense?
I wouldn't be surprised if hundreds of psychiatrists had independently formed that view, although they may not have made their opinions public.

Among those who have gone public, there's the 2017 book The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump. But that features "only" 27 mental health professionals.
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So have you got a source for your claim that "he's literally been diagnosed as a psychopath by hundreds of psychiatrists" or was it just nonsense?
From Psychology Today. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...e-donald-trump
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“We, the undersigned mental health professionals, believe in our professional judgment that Donald Trump manifests a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States. And we respectfully request he be removed from office, according to article 4 of the 25th amendment to the Constitution, which states that the president will be replaced if he is ‘unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.’”
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Mental illness ≠ psychopathy.
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I wouldn't be surprised if hundreds of psychiatrists had independently formed that view, although they may not have made their opinions public.

Among those who have gone public, there's the 2017 book The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump. But that features "only" 27 mental health professionals.
I'd be weary of any psychiatrist/mental health professional who would be willing to diagnose someone based on a Twitter feed and TV clips.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Pedant.

The guy is a wacko, everyone can see that.
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I'd be weary of any psychiatrist/mental health professional who would be willing to diagnose someone based on a Twitter feed and TV clips.
Well, mental health professionals are knowledgeable regarding the symptoms, characteristics and diagnosis criteria. Psychopaths aren't simply people who murder or rape, etc. They're people who ruthlessly hurt others in general (usually for rewards). Brain scans of known psychopaths have revealed that their brains produce about four times more dopamine than normal brains, which means that they basically have overactive reward systems in their brains.

"The Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is a diagnostic tool used to rate a person's psychopathic or antisocial tendencies. People who are psychopathic prey ruthlessly on others using charm, deceit, violence or other methods that allow them to get with they want. The symptoms of psychopathy include: lack of a conscience or sense of guilt, lack of empathy, egocentricity, pathological lying, repeated violations of social norms, disregard for the law, shallow emotions, and a history of victimizing others."

The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:
  • glib and superficial charm
  • grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
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I'd be weary of any psychiatrist/mental health professional who would be willing to diagnose someone based on a Twitter feed and TV clips.
Anything Trump says or does these days makes me weary.

It couldn't possibly have been you who called someone out yesterday for misspelling "lose", could it?
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Well, mental health professionals are knowledgeable regarding the symptoms, characteristics and diagnosis criteria. Psychopaths aren't simply people who murder or rape, etc. They're people who ruthlessly hurt others in general (usually for rewards). Brain scans of known psychopaths have revealed that their brains produce about four times more dopamine than normal brains, which means that they basically have overactive reward systems in their brains.

"The Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is a diagnostic tool used to rate a person's psychopathic or antisocial tendencies. People who are psychopathic prey ruthlessly on others using charm, deceit, violence or other methods that allow them to get with they want. The symptoms of psychopathy include: lack of a conscience or sense of guilt, lack of empathy, egocentricity, pathological lying, repeated violations of social norms, disregard for the law, shallow emotions, and a history of victimizing others."

The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:
  • glib and superficial charm
  • grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
  • need for stimulation
  • pathological lying
  • cunning and manipulativeness
  • lack of remorse or guilt
  • shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
  • callousness and lack of empathy
  • parasitic lifestyle
  • poor behavioral controls
  • sexual promiscuity
  • early behavior problems
  • lack of realistic long-term goals
  • impulsivity
  • irresponsibility
  • failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  • many short-term marital relationships
  • juvenile delinquency
  • revocation of conditional release
  • criminal versatility
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You missed small hands ...
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I'd be weary of any psychiatrist/mental health professional who would be willing to diagnose someone based on a Twitter feed and TV clips.
Weary? Wake up at the back of the class!

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Tell the Democrat Governors that “Mutiny On The Bounty” was one of my all time favorite movies.
A good old fashioned mutiny every now and then is an exciting and invigorating thing to watch, especially when the mutineers need so much from the Captain.
Too easy!
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I assume he never watched the movie?

"Mutiny on the Bounty was about the ruthless, unjust, tyrannical Captain Bligh of the HMS Bounty who shackled his own crew and tortured so many of his own men that they mutinied against him."

Oh!, maybe he did watch it after all
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What happened to Trump's tan? Isn't he a bit more brown, much more natural?
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In a breathtaking narcissistic and political move it is claimed the Treasury Department ordered that President Trump’s name be printed on stimulus checks being sent to millions of American workers impacted by the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

The first time a president’s name will appear on disbursement from the IRS.

Source

Edit; would be only fair if they print his name on tax demands too
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Trump has announced the suspension of funding to the WHO.

Nice timing and blame deflection. Should definitely help to save lives.
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Trump has announced the suspension of funding to the WHO.

Nice timing and blame deflection. Should definitely help to save lives.
Might be a bluff?

I assume he will need Congressional approval to change the budget?
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