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Might be a bluff?

I assume he will need Congressional approval to change the budget?
Even if it is a bluff, the sheer level of sociopathy needed to announce a cut to the WHO in the middle of a pandemic is simply staggering. The mind boggles at what part of him thinks that this is a 'good idea' and it must be evidence that he completely ignores his advisers or that they are too afraid to speak out against his opinions and that he really does make the final call in everything. He is an unhinged, deranged man and a loose cannon in charge of the biggest weapon in the world. The fact a man with such obvious and severe psychological problems can be allowed to remain as president and run for another term is a sign in such a developed democracy is imo a sign of how broken the system is.

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Old 15.04.2020, 10:27
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So 'lil orange boy doesn't want to pay for the WHO anymore.

He really continues to destroy the US, piece by piece.

Already, trust towards the US government is long gone. He doesn't even understands what this does cost the US already, and what it will mean in the future.
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Old 15.04.2020, 10:36
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Might be a bluff?

I assume he will need Congressional approval to change the budget?
I’m not sure his goal is to change the budget.

It’s to deflect attention and focus the ire of voters to undermine an institution that benefits other countries more than the average US citizen.

Is this the time to aggressively undermine the WHO? Well, yes if your only goal is to protect your own interests, regardless of human casualties.
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I’m not sure his goal is to change the budget.

It’s to deflect attention and focus the ire of voters to undermine an institution that benefits other countries more than the average US citizen.

Is this the time to aggressively undermine the WHO? Well, yes if your only goal is to protect your own interests, regardless of human casualties.
Yup agreed, he is simply using bullyboy tactics to shift blame to the WHO and deflect attention away from his well documented failings. Considering many of his ignorant voters only read or listen to what they are fed by Trump, this may even work for him. It is truly disgusting.
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Even if it is a bluff, the sheer level of sociopathy needed to announce a cut to the WHO in the middle of a pandemic is simply staggering. The mind boggles at what part of him thinks that this is a 'good idea' and it must be evidence that he completely ignores his advisers or that they are too afraid to speak out against his opinions and that he really does make the final call in everything. He is an unhinged, deranged man and a loose cannon in charge of the biggest weapon in the world. The fact a man with such obvious and severe psychological problems can be allowed to remain as president and run for another term is a sign in such a developed democracy is imo a sign of how broken the system is.
Good on him. About time these globalist organisations were held to account.
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Good on him. About time these globalist organisations were held to account.
So, according to you, China is a bad boy because they didn't share their data. I.e. because they showed these globalist organisations the index finger.

Trump however does well when he does the same. He can't show them his soon enough.

What a tool you are. I mean, troll.
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Old 15.04.2020, 12:33
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Might be a bluff?

I assume he will need Congressional approval to change the budget?
He doesn't change the budget, he's "merely" withholding payment by not signing the cheque. Like he did with Ukraine.
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Old 15.04.2020, 13:05
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Seems Trump wants to start a 10th Amendment battle with the State Governors.
The Governors locked down the individual States, not Trump.
Seems Trump is now backing down from a 10th Amendment fight he said yesterday he was "authorizing each individual governor of each individual state to implement a reopening and a very powerful reopening plan of their state."

He is still trying to maintain this fiction he controls what the States do; the Governors do not need his authorization to reopen since he never mandated a lockdown
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So, according to you, China is a bad boy because they didn't share their data. I.e. because they showed these globalist organisations the index finger.

Trump however does well when he does the same. He can't show them his soon enough.

What a tool you are. I mean, troll.
What kind of sucker would continue to be the world's biggest contributor to an organization who prioritises other country's over your own?
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He doesn't change the budget, he's "merely" withholding payment by not signing the cheque. Like he did with Ukraine.
The long term impact is more profound than the immediate withholding of payment.

Trump seeks to undermine, destroy the reputation, fracture and dismantle the influence of any person, or democratically formed institutions that appear to conflict with his own interests.

Trump has an extraordinary capacity for directing the anger and fear of his voter base towards others.

The parallels with the 1930's and the rise of the Nazi Party, are disturbing.

The consequence of Trump's actions, combined with a global depression, mass unemployment and weak governments in Europe will create a fertile ground for the rise of far right.
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Old 15.04.2020, 13:50
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What kind of sucker would continue to be the world's biggest contributor to an organization who prioritises other country's over your own?
The size of the contribution is based on the size of the country, not on priorities.
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Old 15.04.2020, 14:15
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He doesn't change the budget, he's "merely" withholding payment by not signing the cheque. Like he did with Ukraine.
According to the attached Statement of Account the US have not been making payments to the WHO for a long time
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According to the attached Statement of Account the US have not been making payments to the WHO for a long time
Good sleuthing. Can you share the section of the WHO website?

I understand the total US funding contribution to be in excess of $400m.

This PDF covers just the assessed (smaller %) rather than the voluntary contributions.
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The size of the contribution is based on the size of the country, not on priorities.
That doesn't explain why the the US should want to continue being the biggest contributor to an organization who puts other countries interests ahead of their own.
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Good sleuthing. Can you share the section of the WHO website?

I understand the total US funding contribution to be in excess of $400m.

This PDF covers just the assessed (smaller %) rather than the voluntary contributions.
https://www.who.int/about/finances-a..._statement/en/
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That doesn't explain why the the US should want to continue being the biggest contributor to an organization who puts other countries interests ahead of their own.
It is their decision and I don't think they will justify it to us. Which was also their point. I think US president is now reacting to November, December and start of January.
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More about US contributions to WHO
https://www.who.int/images/default-s...get/top-20.jpg

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Trump has announced the suspension of funding to the WHO.

Nice timing and blame deflection. Should definitely help to save lives.
Just seen the WHO's response to the action.
IMHO it really hits home on the matter.
https://youtu.be/dMrImMedYRo
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That doesn't explain why the the US should want to continue being the biggest contributor to an organization who puts other countries interests ahead of their own.
At around 14% the US is indeed the largest single contributor, except they haven’t been paying their bills. This leaves Bill Gates as the largest contributor. Germany is 3rd, but if you total up the EU countries, the EU is by far the largest contributor.

And do you really think that eradicating polio and measles in other countries is not an interest to the US? Really?
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What kind of sucker would continue to be the world's biggest contributor to an organization who prioritises other country's over your own?
So China was right with what they did and you in wrong. Noted.
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