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Everyone loves a good showman. Plus he's a billionaire who remains relatable to the everyman.
How's Trump relatable to everyman? I mean seriously, what do you think it makes him relatable?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/u...governors.html

Would be best for the country if he would just get a heart attack I guess...
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How's Trump relatable to everyman? I mean seriously, what do you think it makes him relatable?
Mostly because he talks about issues that matter to the working class and his style/delivery mimics theirs. Throw in the fact that he doesn't care if he's politically correct and shows contempt for snobby academics and voilŗ.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

(I wasn't able to quote Full Circle's comment above, for some reason).

Full Circle... Do you normally consider people who are experts in a field and/or of high intelligence to be "snobs?" If so, I think that is most likely just a manifestation of an inferiority complex, on your part.

Indeed, Trump doesn't care about being "politically correct" because being a decent human being obviously isn't at the top of his list of priorities. I'm sure he'd be just fine if we went back to a time when it was considered perfectly acceptable in American culture to use the "N word" or to refer to Mexicans with derogatory terms, to treat women as inferior sex objects, etc.

If Trump's "style/delivery" does indeed mimic that of his followers, I think that is a perfect reflection of the rise of ignorance and narcissism in American culture. There have been many studies* and books written about it, including "The Culture of Narcissism: American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations" which was a best-seller after being published in 1979.
* e.g. https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._of_Narcissism



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Mostly because he talks about issues that matter to the working class and his style/delivery mimics theirs. Throw in the fact that he doesn't care if he's politically correct and shows contempt for snobby academics and voilŗ.
I blame John McCain who brought in Sarah Palin, the latter who started the ball rolling.
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Mostly because he talks about issues that matter to the working class and his style/delivery mimics theirs. Throw in the fact that he doesn't care if he's politically correct and shows contempt for snobby academics and voilŗ.
Looks like Marx's class struggle theory. Isn't Trump supposed to be an anti-Marxist ?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

he's a libertarian capitalist , without much of a brain but very clever in a certain way, especially blame-gaming
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Mostly because he talks about issues that matter to the working class and his style/delivery mimics theirs. Throw in the fact that he doesn't care if he's politically correct and shows contempt for snobby academics and voilŗ.
Full Circle has a point. Watch this video (from October 2019) comparing Obama and Trump when presenting important news. It's a hoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsBOWSjOLsE

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Mostly because he talks about issues that matter to the working class and his style/delivery mimics theirs. Throw in the fact that he doesn't care if he's politically correct and shows contempt for snobby academics and voilŗ.
Not sure what's to be proud of here.

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Full Circle has a point. Watch this video (from October 2019) comparing Obama and Trump when presenting important news. It's a hoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsBOWSjOLsE
Meanwhile it's Obama's devastating impact to the country, which ultimately got President Trump elected. The great hope failed on many levels. Race relations deteriorated, the whole #metoo movement gained so much momentum that according to the media, one ought to be ashamed to be male. He not only deported the most people but also implemented the mass segregation of families in ICE detention facilities; which President Trump apparently got "credit" for. . .the list goes on. While I was never a fan of President Trump as a celebrity and I've always considered him to be a buffoon, in the light of Obama, I started to appreciate him more and more. It is easy to poke fun at him but the man achieved something remarkable and just like Arnold Schwarzenegger, he used the perception of him as being stupid to his advantage. So proceed to keep calling him stupid. . .making fun of his antics, his unorthodox ways of communicating or even his hair. The country was sick and tired of Obama and was looking for a much needed change.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

jeezus, and you're a moderator on this forum....
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Meanwhile, just as weíre reminded often enough here that the current US shit show is not the fault of Trump alone, neither can you blame the preceding shit show on Obama. Itís much more complex than the fault of either man.
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jeezus, and you're a moderator on this forum....
That's precisely my point. How is my political view of any concern on how I do my job as a moderator or even as a member? This is just my opinion and yet you discredit the validity of my moderation because I think Obama was the worst president in U.S. history? The man conveyed hope, people ate it and then he proceeded to cause havoc with his spineless antics.
Furthermore, how are you in any way, shape or form affiliated with the U.S. and its politics?
You're Dutch and spent a considerable amount of time in Ireland, of what concern is the U.S. presidency to you?
I'd like to see any other EU politician analyzed under a microscope and judged with the same scrutiny as President Trump. That would be something truly entertaining.
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Meanwhile, just as weíre reminded often enough here that the current US shit show is not the fault of Trump alone, neither can you blame the preceding shit show on Obama. Itís much more complex than the fault of either man.
Exactly. Obama got voted in because of Bush Jr. and Trump got voted in because of Obama.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Hey lost_inbroad



Why should i be affiliated with the US to be able to have an opinion about it?


Think moderators should refrain from extreme opinions in their own Forum


Example: "the whole #metoo movement gained so much momentum that according to the media, one ought to be ashamed to be male"


Now I guess you are a male yourself, but don't you think that it was necessary that all these male predators were exposed ?! or how else would that have happened, most probably not by the likes of you !!




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'extreme opinions'
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Hey lost_inbroad



Why should i be affiliated with the US to be able to have an opinion about it?


Think moderators should refrain from extreme opinions in their own Forum


Example: "the whole #metoo movement gained so much momentum that according to the media, one ought to be ashamed to be male"


Now I guess you are a male yourself, but don't you think that it was necessary that all these male predators were exposed ?! or how else would that have happened, most probably not by the likes of you !!




Well you thought wrong. Moderators can express their own opinions as they please. I'm first and foremost a member and then a moderator. The simple fact that you attribute my opinion as extreme, simply because I dislike somebody's actions when in office is fairly simple-minded attitude many people share who judge the current presidency through whatever factless opinions they're being fed by the media.

No, I don't think the whole "movement" was all that necessary. I find it appalling that all of a sudden, x-number of actors and actresses choose to come out of the woodworks about being sexually harassed in the early stages of their careers. Funny, I guess it didn't bother them, when they used the casting couch as a spring-board for their career. It's a matter of principle in my opinion. If more people would have taken decisive stances about it when it happened, then pigs like Weinstein, Eppstein...all the other Steins and the Vatican would have had a harder time operating. But hush-money and the opportunity to starring in movies does calm the nerves I suppose.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

every people get the leader they deserve
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That's precisely my point. How is my political view of any concern on how I do my job as a moderator or even as a member? This is just my opinion and yet you discredit the validity of my moderation because I think Obama was the worst president in U.S. history? The man conveyed hope, people ate it and then he proceeded to cause havoc with his spineless antics.
Furthermore, how are you in any way, shape or form affiliated with the U.S. and its politics?
You're Dutch and spent a considerable amount of time in Ireland, of what concern is the U.S. presidency to you?
I'd like to see any other EU politician analyzed under a microscope and judged with the same scrutiny as President Trump. That would be something truly entertaining.

Well, didnít bother to read any of the previous posts, but lost_inbroad has made a point. My (extended) family own most of the the land between Midland and Odessa (West Texas) since at least the 1950ís (cattle and oil). I know and lived with whatís going on for a good portion of my life. Thatís why I donít usually post on this thread.

Doesnít mean that I choose to be a part of it since the past decades, and now live a good, simple, establishing an income basis (struggling like anyone else at times), relatively happy, and healthy life in Switzerland. My family there are still as screwed-up as hell. But carry a great deal of influence in the US. Have been preparing themselves since decades with a weapon and ammunition stock worth billions.

Can still listen to peoples views about it here, because itís anonymous.

But please, please, please folks - open your eyes to whatís happening. And all the money / influence that happens that you donít get a chance to see. Not good for you, not good for anyone. And Trump, itís surely clear to any thinking person, is quite mentally ill.

Said my goodbye bit, and wish you all the best
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Meanwhile it's Obama's devastating impact to the country, which ultimately got President Trump elected. The great hope failed on many levels. Race relations deteriorated, the whole #metoo movement gained so much momentum that according to the media, one ought to be ashamed to be male. He not only deported the most people but also implemented the mass segregation of families in ICE detention facilities; which President Trump apparently got "credit" for. . .the list goes on. While I was never a fan of President Trump as a celebrity and I've always considered him to be a buffoon, in the light of Obama, I started to appreciate him more and more. It is easy to poke fun at him but the man achieved something remarkable and just like Arnold Schwarzenegger, he used the perception of him as being stupid to his advantage. So proceed to keep calling him stupid. . .making fun of his antics, his unorthodox ways of communicating or even his hair. The country was sick and tired of Obama and was looking for a much needed change.
Half of it. Don't forget: half of it.

The divide will go on and he's doing nothing about it. As for Obama, still don't get why was he held at higher standards than the others. For sure he's not the only one who didn't deliver or that lied. They all do.

To be disappointed in Obama is one thing. I really, really get that. To vote Trump for the second time because of him? Not so much. I think he did exactly what Obama did: coagulated hope around MAGA etc. They're very different characters but got into power in a very, very similar way.
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