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Old 18.04.2020, 17:39
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To be disappointed in Obama is one thing. I really, really get that. To vote Trump for the second time because of him? Not so much. I think he did exactly what Obama did: coagulated hope around MAGA etc. They're very different characters but got into power in a very, very similar way.
I absolutely agree. However, what are the options? Crooked Hillary or the 2 other candidates from the geriatric ward. As long as the economy is doing well and unemployment is at a low rate, then I don't see the American people voting for anybody else.

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Old 18.04.2020, 17:42
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But there is a difference between "facing sexual assault allegations" and actually having sexually assaulted someone.

The woman who is accusing Biden of that first said that Biden had "touched her shoulders and neck and made her feel uncomfortable." Now, a year later, she has drastically changed her story to him having "pinned her to a wall in a Senate building, reached under her clothing and penetrated her with his fingers." It makes no sense to me why she has changed her story...
Not only that, but if he's such a terrible predator why not bring this out say, in 2008 before he was elected Vice President?

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(I wasn't able to quote Full Circle's comment above, for some reason).

Full Circle... Do you normally consider people who are experts in a field and/or of high intelligence to be "snobs?" If so, I think that is most likely just a manifestation of an inferiority complex, on your part.

Indeed, Trump doesn't care about being "politically correct" because being a decent human being obviously isn't at the top of his list of priorities. I'm sure he'd be just fine if we went back to a time when it was considered perfectly acceptable in American culture to use the "N word" or to refer to Mexicans with derogatory terms, to treat women as inferior sex objects, etc.

If Trump's "style/delivery" does indeed mimic that of his followers, I think that is a perfect reflection of the rise of ignorance and narcissism in American culture. There have been many studies* and books written about it, including "The Culture of Narcissism: American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations" which was a best-seller after being published in 1979.
* e.g. https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._of_Narcissism
The reason quote didn't work is because of the special character à. See here for info: https://www.englishforum.ch/forum-su...-problems.html

Agree with the rest.

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jeezus, and you're a moderator on this forum....
So what? Mods have opinions too. They might go with the majority or they might not. So long as there aren't personal attacks or outright trolling to wind up others, I'm fine with it. LiB thinks Obama was the worst president ever. I don't, but I also don't think that he's the best either. Differences of opinion, when shared respectfully, are part of what makes this forum an interesting place to discuss things.

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...You're Dutch and spent a considerable amount of time in Ireland, of what concern is the U.S. presidency to you?
Whether people of the world like it or not, the U.S. presidency has a lot of global relevancy, simply because of America's sway over other countries. Maybe it's not what it was in say, WWII, but especially as the dollar is the reference currency for oil, etc. the rest of the world at least takes note of what's going on with Uncle Sam.
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Old 18.04.2020, 17:50
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Full Circle... Do you normally consider people who are experts in a field and/or of high intelligence to be "snobs?" If so, I think that is most likely just a manifestation of an inferiority complex, on your part.
No not necessarily, but I would probably consider academics to be more elitist on average. Not as real.

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Indeed, Trump doesn't care about being "politically correct" because being a decent human being obviously isn't at the top of his list of priorities. I'm sure he'd be just fine if we went back to a time when it was considered perfectly acceptable in American culture to use the "N word" or to refer to Mexicans with derogatory terms, to treat women as inferior sex objects, etc.
That's certainly one way of looking at it, another way would be that he simply refuses to pander to ridiculous demands from the 'woke' left and he doesn't bend over for the perpetually offended.
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Old 18.04.2020, 18:00
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Not only that, but if he's such a terrible predator why not bring this out say, in 2008 before he was elected Vice President?
No idea, but he does seem rather creepy whenever he's around young girls.

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Whether people of the world like it or not, the U.S. presidency has a lot of global relevancy, simply because of America's sway over other countries. Maybe it's not what it was in say, WWII, but especially as the dollar is the reference currency for oil, etc. the rest of the world at least takes note of what's going on with Uncle Sam.
Absolutely, the U.S. influence is vast to say the least. What bothers me is no matter what Trump does, he gets absolutely scrutinized, villainized and ridiculed. However, no European media outlet reports about let's see for instance, his support of the VCF, the possible implementation of a merit based immigration system, the First Step Act, etc. . .hence, we get a lot of people forming their opinions on TMZ journalism "Hihihihi, his hair....hihihi, he's orange.....hihihihi, he's so stupid" without looking a factual counter arguments.
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No not necessarily, but I would probably consider academics to be more elitist on average. Not as real.


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What does it mean to be “real”. I’m married to an academic from a very average background (neither parent went to university). We’re both decidedly middle class (in the US, not UK sense). Both of us just liked going to university and made a decent life of our studies. Does that make us any less real.

How many real academics do you know?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

you don't need TMZ when you have Fox... and friends
as for Obama, guess america was not ready for him
Personally am passed the stage to use valid arguments when discussing trump as he is an absolute charicature of the capitalist greed culture, mind you i am not against capitalism
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you don't need TMZ when you have Fox... and friends
as for Obama, guess america was not ready for him
Personally am passed the stage to use valid arguments when discussing trump as he is an absolute charicature of the capitalist greed culture, mind you i am not against capitalism
Of course not, hence President Trump scrapped the TPP fairly swiftly or he raised taxes on imported goods from China, look I don't want to engage in schoolyard tit for tat fact swinging. Your opinion, albeit misinterpreted, is not conducive to what's happening now, but it is your opinion. So be it. However if you're that interested in politics, I urge you to inform yourself a bit better. Listen to a congressional hearing or watch an entire press conference, rather than regurgitating what somebody had posted on FB or whatever is being published on Watson.
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Not only that, but if he's such a terrible predator why not bring this out say, in 2008 before he was elected Vice President?
I agree with this. Sounds similar to the conveniently timed allegations brought against Brett Kavanaugh.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

do have a bachelor in Political Science and am a subscriber of the new york times and washington post

so please keep your conceitment for yerself
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I agree with this. Sounds similar to the conveniently timed allegations brought against Brett Kavanaugh.
Kavanaugh I kind of understand, in that he is a judge and therefore was not publicly well known prior to being nominated to a lifetime appointment on the highest court in the land.

Still, surely his accusers could have brought up complaints before he was confirmed to circuit courts, etc.? I'm not saying his accusers lied, I don't know. But if someone messed up my life that badly, I'd follow his career and try to derail it at every stage and not shut up. I would not wait until he was in a position to be on the Supreme Court.

Biden was a senator since before dirt existed.
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do have a bachelor in Political Science and am a subcriber of the new york times and washington post

so please keep your conceitment for yerself
There is no shame in education, tired of it being presented as such.
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Old 18.04.2020, 20:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A bit of this tolerance should move over to "Date a PhD" thread.

Another thing that makes me wonder is when mental health-shaming got so popular. Any kind of seeming handicap-shaming.

If Trump was so obviously and genuinely insane and it wasn't constantly rubbed in to simply discredit him and mock him...then why worry, he just won't get re-elected. People must see through all that.

Although I do not think he is insane. He is all but that.

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do have a bachelor in Political Science and am a subscriber of the new york times and washington post

so please keep your conceitment for yerself
What are you trying to imply? You're midst highly qualified professionals and intelligent trailing spouses. You think a few subscription to notoriously left-oriented papers will somehow make you eloquent on the topic of U.S. politics, when not even politicians themselves know what the hell is going on?

If you'd mentioned The Atlantic, then I'd be slightly impressed, but you don't know that paper, do ya?
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that is a monthly, i rather be informed daily
a intelligent reader will be aware of the bias in the news he reads, thats why i also read right leaning papers, reuters is pretty good too
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A bit of this tolerance should move over to "Date a PhD" thread.

Another thing that makes me wonder is when mental health-shaming got so popular. Any kind of seeming handicap-shaming.
Really? Mental health shaming is not new. It’s been a part of life for a long, long time.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Is acknowledging someone's psychopathy the equivalent of "mental health shaming?" There is a difference between trying to shame someone and simply pointing out that someone has a mental illness or signs of mental illness, whatever mental illness that might be. Germans once thought Hitler was sane.
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Although I do not think he is insane. He is all but that.
He is not insane, he is more like a toddler all happy when he gets what he wants, the moment it goes the other way he starts throwing random things around in an attempt to get what he wants.

Like calling upon people to demonstrate against the state governments, I'd say that is about as low as a president can go.
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Germans once thought Hitler was sane.
But Hitler was a very smart guy, it was only during the war that he mentally lost it.
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But Hitler was a very smart guy, it was only during the war that he mentally lost it.
Possibly caused by his opioid addiction.
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Many psychopaths actually do have high IQs (for example, Ted Bundy). This is one reason why they are so good at manipulating.
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