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I guess they'd have to focus on the negative side of Trump given that that they've fielded such a weak candidate... Although it seems they've tried that for four years to little avail.
Which is where Trump wants them to be, let's not ignore that. I wish it was not the case.

You can only beat somebody in his position by offering something better than negative campaign or online cat fights.
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Guys, before bashing Facebook and Twitter etc don't forget we're writing all of these on social media....

Online forums are part of social media too and are also very much used exactly for the same purposes - fake news, hate speech etc etc. For the moment they escaped somehow from legal scrutiny, I bet that will change some day. Don't forget some people inspire themselves from some forums for their (social) "research" on various subjects....I'll refrain from commenting any further.

Someone mentioned here something interesting about ignoring tweets. I personally wouldn't (totally) dissociate someone's behaviour in real life from any of those on the social media platforms (with or without anonymity).

It's a preeeety good indication of who exactly you are.
Yes, people might be a lot more disinhibited and "braver" but still. Judging by a certain president's Twitter accounts...I think he shouldn't have written everything that crossed his mind there. For his own good. Too late I know.

On the other hand, it's good that he was so active so that everyone can inform themselves right from the source and not accuse media of defamation etc.
That occurred to me as I was writing my comment, but I think that the English Forum is quite different from sites like Facebook and Instagram, which were intentionally designed to trap people in a dopamine feedback loop (i.e. the addiction to 'likes') and to exploit weaknesses in human psychology (the need for social validation). I also don't think that the EF generates narcissism the way Facebook and Instagram do. If people were using the EF to constantly post selfies and photos of their dinner in exchange for likes and compliments, I don't think I would be here. I think that much of people's behavior on social media sites reflect the ways those sites are designed to program their behavior rather than how many are in the real world. Those sites are essentially operant conditioning chambers, like Skinner used in his famous behavioral experiments where mice press a lever to get a reward, and then the desire for more rewards begins to control their behavior.

Former Facebook Exec: 'You Don’t Realize It But You Are Being Programmed'

https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-...are-1821181133
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Nice thought, but there’s plenty of feedback looping here
Yes, perhaps. But I don't think the EF works quite the same way on our dopamine circuits the way sites like FB and Instagram do. I don't think most of us comment here just to receive "thanks" and I don't think we are altering our content / comments to reflect a desire for "thanks." I think the EF can be addicting but not nearly as addicting as regular social media sites are intentionally designed to be. There have been studies using brain scans that have found that heavy social media use is literally altering people's brain anatomy.

Brain anatomy alterations associated with Social Networking Site (SNS) addiction
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https://www.researchgate.net/publica...leus_accumbens

Sorry to stray off subject...
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... If people want to change the status quo, let's quit the negative campaign and focus on why we should root for his opponents.
It's a nice idea, but studies have shown that's not how it works. When surveyed, American voters say they want to hear why they should vote for someone as opposed to why they should not...but...when people actually cast a ballot in private, the negative ads that have come up stick in their mind and they sometimes change plans.

How do you think Trump won? Because people loved him and his ideas? Not entirely. Large numbers of centrist voters decided Hillary was less trustworthy. Trump was sort of a known entity because he didn't have a filter when he spoke or tweeted. Trump's negative campaigning helped him get elected. His constant petty attacks and insults and nicknames got rid of his R opponents one by one rather effectively.

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...We're drowning in information that causes anxiety and fuels outrage...
Psychology tells us that we tend to seek out information that confirms what we already believe, and when encountered with an opposite argument tend to regard it as fake news or propaganda. Thus if we're already anxious and outraged we'll continue to tune into programs/sites that feed our views. Cue Fox News telling its viewers how states with democrats for governors are taking away civil liberties. Cue CNN telling its viewers that opening up the economy before there's a vaccine is going to cost millions of lives.

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Is this the bullshit trump is just a common working man crap?
Trump never claims he's like the common working man. God forbid. He says he understands them. In a way, he does. He clearly understands what his base wants and serves it up on a silver platter. He doesn't care whether it's truthful, and neither do his followers. It fires up his base and whips the other side into a frenzy.

Way back when Trump first started to gain steam in the R primaries, I read an opinion piece that said he's what every common man wants to be. He's rich, successful (ok, debate with your definition but he's still a millionaire), has a pretty wife, is famous, etc.

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I'd guess some are ignorant to their hypocrisy and others don't really care, it's just a means to gain power.
Truth on both sides. Left-wingers are as much hypocrites as right.

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Do you think Ds could find a fair way to stand a chance against Trump for his 2nd term?
Define fair. Trump spends a massive amount of his time insulting others and making negative statements about anyone he sees as an adversary - even if that person was his previously appointed chief of staff/spokesperson/secretary of state/secretary of defense, etc. He's the KING of negativity. And as said above, it works. People claim not to like it when polled, but they eat it up.

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I guess they'd have to focus on the negative side of Trump given that that they've fielded such a weak candidate... Although it seems they've tried that for four years to little avail.
They tried. Voters in sufficient numbers and in the right places decided that Trump's negatives were less awful than Hillary's.

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...You can only beat somebody in his position by offering something better than negative campaign or online cat fights.
Not true. Reflect on how Trump shredded his R opponents in the primary. Of course he said he was amazing and a winner, but every opponent had a nickname and he didn't mind getting into a mud-slinging fest.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

That's very long and again on how toxic Trump is. He only has till the end of his term or the next one, that's it. There have been too much energy and resources spent, almost pathologically I'd dare to guess, on what he is doing wrong. Instead of supporting what new and good needs to happen. A better alternative. Where are they? Trump's opponents do not realize that negative campaign again puts Trump in our scope. It gains him support. Attention. Media space. It is obsessive. I think there could be much worthier alternatives, than negative campaign or constant explaining the reasons for negative campaign. People are so tired of it, they will most probably vote for him again.
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That's very long and again on how toxic Trump is. He only has till the end of his term or the next one, that's it. There have been too much energy and resources spent, almost pathologically I'd dare to guess, on what he is doing wrong. Instead of supporting what new and good needs to happen. A better alternative. Where are they? Trump's opponent do not realize that negative campaign again puts Trump in our scope. It gains him support. Attention. Media space. It is obsessive. I think there could be much worthier alternatives, than negative campaign or constant explaining the reasons for negative campaign. People are so tired of it, they will most probably vote for him again.
I hope they do vote for Trump; if not, what are we going to do all day (post 22,202 in this thread).
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Sorry, big multi-quote coming again.
Not true. Reflect on how Trump shredded his R opponents in the primary. Of course he said he was amazing and a winner, but every opponent had a nickname and he didn't mind getting into a mud-slinging fest.
Because deep down, most people hated the sense of entitlement of Jeb (and Hillary), the bigotry and moral emptiness of some of the other candidates as well as the lack of a true sentiment or opinion that wasn't played out in front of the camera for votes.

Trump highlighted this publicly when he roasted Jeb about his lack of opinion on the Iraq-war. All these defects in the US political system were there for the last decades - but nobody went on the stage to call them out because everybody in Washington is complicit with everybody else and has as much dirt on you than you have on everybody else.

It's really more of a mob-like organization at this point. Trump got this office because he declared himself to be outside of that mob.

That may even be true, but it's unclear if he doesn't belong to some different mob-organization....
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https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/co...e_are/fnstpyl/

Interesting.. apparently, a guy selling N95 masks as well as other products related to "protection" is behind most (if not all) "Liberate" nonsense that the orange Dotard supports so much...in all different states
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That's very long and again on how toxic Trump is. He only has till the end of his term or the next one, that's it. There have been too much energy and resources spent, almost pathologically I'd dare to guess, on what he is doing wrong. Instead of supporting what new and good needs to happen. A better alternative. Where are they? Trump's opponents do not realize that negative campaign again puts Trump in our scope. It gains him support. Attention. Media space. It is obsessive. I think there could be much worthier alternatives, than negative campaign or constant explaining the reasons for negative campaign. People are so tired of it, they will most probably vote for him again.
I think there are some people who have taken it to an extreme, but I also think that it's difficult for people to ignore his behavior -- the bullying and persistent lying, the constant blame-shifting, etc. People would be foolish to turn a blind eye to it. That would essentially be encouraging (or at least condoning) his behavior. Trump behaves like an immature bully, and that simply isn't the way a US president should behave. I don't think that people who criticize Trump enjoy doing it as much as they just refuse to NOT acknowledge how immature and delusional so much of his behavior is. We need to be careful with what we consider normal or acceptable behavior. Not that long ago, our species was enslaving black people and treating them as inferior.

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Because deep down, most people hated the sense of entitlement of Jeb (and Hillary), the bigotry and moral emptiness of some of the other candidates as well as the lack of a true sentiment or opinion that wasn't played out in front of the camera for votes.

Trump highlighted this publicly when he roasted Jeb about his lack of opinion on the Iraq-war. All these defects in the US political system were there for the last decades - but nobody went on the stage to call them out because everybody in Washington is complicit with everybody else and has as much dirt on you than you have on everybody else.

It's really more of a mob-like organization at this point. Trump got this office because he declared himself to be outside of that mob.

That may even be true, but it's unclear if he doesn't belong to some different mob-organization....
Well, Trump does run his administration very similar to a mob boss, only he can't get away with killing people so he fires them and/or demonizes them on Twitter instead. He treats anyone who doesn't kiss his *** as an enemy and he claims to have ultimate authority as president, although in truth, he doesn't.
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Truth on both sides. Left-wingers are as much hypocrites as right.
Both can be hypocritical, though left wingers are much more likely to push all the woke bs without holding their own ideologues to account.
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Furthermore, how are you in any way, shape or form affiliated with the U.S. and its politics?
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Absolutely, the U.S. influence is vast to say the least. What bothers me is no matter what Trump does, he gets absolutely scrutinized, villainized and ridiculed. However, no European media outlet reports about let's see for instance, his support of the VCF, the possible implementation of a merit based immigration system, the First Step Act, etc. . .hence, we get a lot of people forming their opinions on TMZ journalism "Hihihihi, his hair....hihihi, he's orange.....hihihihi, he's so stupid" without looking a factual counter arguments.
So, even though they can't have an opinion on Trump or US politics, the people living here should take a deep interest in completely domestic affairs, in stuff that doesn't affect them the least, while they should ignore the stuff that does affect them.

I trust that makes sense to you. Just don't expect others to agree.

I do agree about Biden's creepiness though. This will be another election where people have to decide who's the least bad.
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I don't think Biden is creepy, but I do think he's had some truly awful experiences throughout his lifetime that most likely very strongly affected him emotionally and psychologically. In the 70s, he lost his young wife and one-year old daughter in a tragic car accident while his two sons were critically injured. And in 2015, he lost a son to brain cancer. That's a lot of trauma for someone to deal with, and I would be very surprised if it hasn't come to shape who Biden is today in some way or another. Maybe he is the warm, friendly type (like my Italian mother-in-law is) and perhaps that makes some people uncomfortable, but I think there is a big difference between being warm and friendly and being a pervert.
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I don't think Biden is creepy, but I do think he's had some truly awful experiences throughout his lifetime that most likely very strongly affected him emotionally and psychologically. In the 70s, he lost his young wife and one-year old daughter in a tragic car accident while his two sons were critically injured. And in 2015, he lost a son to brain cancer. That's a lot of trauma for someone to deal with, and I would be very surprised if it hasn't come to shape who Biden is today in some way or another. Maybe he is the warm, friendly type (like my Italian mother-in-law is) and perhaps that makes some people uncomfortable, but I think there is a big difference between being warm and friendly and being a pervert.
Biden is like that one uncle you were not allowed to visit by yourself.
Look at some of the footage of him, the kids and women clearly feel uncomfortable around him. Now that's some #metoo stuff right there. Not even Hillary did anything when Biden clinged to her on the tarmac, despite her trying to tap-out numerous times.
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I don't think Biden is creepy, but I do think he's had some truly awful experiences throughout his lifetime that most likely very strongly affected him emotionally and psychologically. In the 70s, he lost his young wife and one-year old daughter in a tragic car accident while his two sons were critically injured. And in 2015, he lost a son to brain cancer. That's a lot of trauma for someone to deal with, and I would be very surprised if it hasn't come to shape who Biden is today in some way or another. Maybe he is the warm, friendly type (like my Italian mother-in-law is) and perhaps that makes some people uncomfortable, but I think there is a big difference between being warm and friendly and being a pervert.
I don't care why Trump is vindictive, it's simply unacceptable to act like he does in this position. The president can't punish the population for the in/actions of or his disagreements with the people (senators et al) they democratically elected, especially considering that all get elected by a minority of the population.

Likewise do I not care about the reasons why Biden is what he is or acts the way he does. While it may be selective reporting, he's only shown doing it with/to women/girls, and almost always from behind (I seem to remember seeing one exception) and despite their obvious discomfort. If his "approaches" were just a weird way of, say, congratulating there should be plenty of examples where he behaves weirdly towards men as well - I haven't seen any.

My main problem with Biden (applies in general) however is his age. There should be an age limit, e.g. you can't be elected after age 65 or 70 or so. Ideally complemented by a limit of holding office in Congress.
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Both can be hypocritical, though left wingers are much more likely to push all the woke bs without holding their own ideologues to account.
How many rightwingers can you name who've been taken down by their own? Which are they?
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Biden is too old in my book but what the hell...anything is better than Trump.

I also believe there's a very savvy smear campaign against Biden right now where the idea that he's pedophile has been leaked into the internet.

Sneaky Republicans..... or whoever is behind it.
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Maybe he is the warm, friendly type (like my Italian mother-in-law is) and perhaps that makes some people uncomfortable, but I think there is a big difference between being warm and friendly and being a pervert.
You made me curious and have watched him on youtube. He's a man of his generation I think, he's making some jokes that are not really necessary if you ask me and is a tad too close to females. When he was young it was considered charming probably and women were flaterred....also we don't touch kids anymore, not even in a paternal way..He's behind the times. He can't change I guess.
If this is all they got against him he's safe.
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Biden is like that one uncle you were not allowed to visit by yourself.
Look at some of the footage of him, the kids and women clearly feel uncomfortable around him. Now that's some #metoo stuff right there. Not even Hillary did anything when Biden clinged to her on the tarmac, despite her trying to tap-out numerous times.
No, Trump and his followers and the right-wing media have initiated a smear campaign against Biden, twisting his (yes, perhaps sometimes overly) warm, friendly nature into being something more than it is. For example, this video, which clearly states that it was created by stopjoebiden.com and says "VOTE TRUMP 2020" at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgyUHnFZDq0
In the video, you see a woman complaining about Biden having once put his hands on her shoulders when she was young. Since when is someone putting their hands on someone's shoulder the same as being sexual toward them? Regardless of whether or not that made her uncomfortable, that still doesn't mean that it was sexual. Also, why is Trump allowed to kiss children and women he doesn't know, etc. but when Biden does it, they deem it as being something sexual and inappropriate? Trump is apparently allowed to talk about grabbing women by the p***ies and kiss children and women as much as he wants, but Biden isn't 'allowed' to put his hands on a woman's shoulder without them twisting it into a smear campaign against him because they think it will help Trump be re-elected?
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What about the hair sniffing? Is that just warm and friendly too?
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