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Well, my reason for even bringing it up was that someone can't sit back and try to accuse Biden of being a pervert but support Trump when Trump himself is a perv and is married to a soft porn model. As for Melandia... Yes, people do stupid crap all the time. But has she ever come forth and said that modelling nude and presenting herself as a sex object was stupid?
I think that "first ladies" are usually supposed to serve as role models, but I don't understand how someone who proudly models for soft porn could be considered a role model for young women. But "to each their own." We all have our opinions, and that's mine.
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It's difficult as to whether Trump is weak or not as he's very popular with Republicans and he's weathered the storm the past four years.

Biden, to me, comes across as a likeable guy if you ignore all the creepy stuff. I think it's senility that's going to be the problem.
Senility is a problem with both candidates; it is another case of "elefantrennen".

Dems are looking good in the following topics; health care, education and climate change.

Trump is still extolling the economy but the virus has crashed that. He is hoping to get people back to work and for a quick economic recovery.

The problem there is such recoveries are consumer-driven and while half the people in the US (according to polls) are saying they were financially impacted by the crisis they are unlikely to run out and spend money they do not have. Especially as many of them are worried about a second virus wave in the autumn.

Trump also has the problem that polls show an overwhelming majority of Americans — 65 percent — said they believe that Trump did not take the coronavirus seriously enough when it first presented itself as a threat.
A point that the Dems will likely push.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Let's also see what current oil prices are doing to America and support for Trump, oil price went negative, Texas barrels have been trading today as low as -$40,- seems like we're running out of storage and even if traders would like they simply can't buy anymore, next step is shutting production sites down. Another hit for American economy.
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You'd miss out on a few of presidents then. You decide which you think were worth keeping after age 65. All of these were either over 65 when inaugurated or turned 65 while in office [...]
Excellent!

Though by my count only three would have been kept out, I believe. And it's not me who would decide but the calendar.
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It's even more creepy to sexually assault women because you're famous and you can.
Only Biden took physical action.
Funny how the mind can tricks on itself, isn't it. (apologies if you actually meant to qualify Biden's actions as sexual assault)

What got taped by Kennedy is a general statement without reference to any one person or any one event, Trump was bragging. Talk like that simply doesn't compare to physical action, let alone any kind of sexally motivated action.

Trump's boasting amounts to the same as this (may be behind a paywall, sorry):
Q: Who's "best" among you 16yr- to 23yr-old apprentices? What gives the most status?
A: Who has had sex with the most girls.

Now, there's an iron rule involved with that kind of boasting:
You may call out the boaster on a single claim or two jokingly(!) but you can't show that, figuratively speaking, the emperor wears no clothes. Everybody knows that everybody "optimises" upwards but that's Ok, it's part of the game. And it doesn't matter how good the sex was or if the pleasure was mutual, that's a different topic.

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Would a cruise ship work too? They should be cheap now.
No problem, but the carpets would never be the same again.
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I think it's pretty clear from this photo that she was choosing to allow herself to be presented as a sex object / presenting herself as a sex object rather than simply wanting to feel feminine.
And what's bad about that as long as it's her choice?

You seem to not realise how condescending you come across, and how hypocritical it is to imply something like "She can chose whatever she wants just as long as it's something I agree with".

Her choice, or anybody else's for that matter, is simply none of your business.
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Let's also see what current oil prices are doing to America and support for Trump, oil price went negative, Texas barrels have been trading today as low as -$40,- seems like we're running out of storage and even if traders would like they simply can't buy anymore, next step is shutting production sites down. Another hit for American economy.
True and then some! And the oil issue will create a domino effect on the US economy at large.
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The Republicans are excellent at taking a perfectly normal situation and turning it into a scandal. Unless you have proof that Biden has done something illegal, you are only a despicable clog in the wheel of an immoral smear campaign.
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Full Circle has a point. Watch this video (from October 2019) comparing Obama and Trump when presenting important news. It's a hoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsBOWSjOLsE
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Only Biden took physical action.
Funny how the mind can tricks on itself, isn't it. (apologies if you actually meant to qualify Biden's actions as sexual assault)

What got taped by Kennedy is a general statement without reference to any one person or any one event, Trump was bragging. Talk like that simply doesn't compare to physical action, let alone any kind of sexally motivated action.
No, you don't understand! Trump 'literally' grabbed some unnamed girl by the pussy, somehow.
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I just saw $0.10.

Is this a good moment to buy a car with a V12?
A perfect time to buy a V12!
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Only Biden took physical action.
Funny how the mind can tricks on itself, isn't it. (apologies if you actually meant to qualify Biden's actions as sexual assault)
Yes, isn't it funny how quickly we forget? But fortunately there's a whole Wikipedia page to remind us.

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations

But I do agree that the allegations against Trump really aren't comparable to those against Biden. After all, it's rape, sexual assault and sexual harrassment vs. hair-sniffing.
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Yes, isn't it funny how quickly we forget? But fortunately there's a whole Wikipedia page to remind us.

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations

But I do agree that the allegations against Trump really aren't comparable to those against Biden. After all, it's rape, sexual assault and sexual harrassment vs. hair-sniffing.
Creepy Joe now has own Wikipedia page as well detailing his alleged sexual assault.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_...ult_allegation

(this allegation remains separate from his hair sniffing and other deviant behavior)
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Creepy Joe now has own Wikipedia page as well detailing his alleged sexual assault.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_...ult_allegation
Cool! Who's winning in the head-to-head?

(Don't you think it's just a little juvenile to resort to schoolyard derogatory nicknames, à la Trump? I'm sure you can do better than that. After all, Joe Biden speaks very highly of you.)
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You'd miss out on a few of presidents then. You decide which you think were worth keeping after age 65. All of these were either over 65 when inaugurated or turned 65 while in office (source):
  • Donald Trump
  • Ronald Reagan
  • William Henry Harrison
  • James Buchanan
  • George H.W. Bush (aka Bush 41)
  • Zachary Taylor
  • Dwight D. Eisenhower
  • Andrew Jackson
  • John Adams
  • Harry Truman
  • George Washington
  • Woodrow Wilson
Furthermore, if you cross-check that list with the eight presidents who actually did die while in office, there are as far as I can see only two who make it to both lists. (Harrsion and Taylor).

There is thus little statistic evidence to support the claim that presidents who are older than 65 are indeed more likely to die while in office.

On the contrary, statistically the most common cause of death for presidents while in office is assasination, which is neither caused by age nor by any medical condition.
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Last night, I began watching the docuseries on Netflix about Trump, titled "Trump: An American Dream."

I've only seen the first two episodes so far, but they were interesting (and also rather nauseating). They detailed the way Trump rose to "fame and fortune" by, essentially, demanding and receiving huge tax breaks from the state of New York during the late 1970s -- a time when New York City was experiencing a severe financial crisis and needed tax revenue the most. Thousands of city employees had lost their jobs because they couldn't be paid by the government, there was garbage piling up all over the city due to garbage workers being on strike for lack of pay, etc. and yet what did Trump do? He asked for a huge loan and 40-year tax break so he could build a luxury hotel for the rich in New York City and not have to pay taxes for 40 years. Then he moved on to building casinos in Atlantic City, essentially making a fortune from people's gambling addictions. It also has some commentary by the various people he 'used and abused' along the way, and you can see how his ego grew out of control as he rose to fame.

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Yes, isn't it funny how quickly we forget? But fortunately there's a whole Wikipedia page to remind us.

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations

But I do agree that the allegations against Trump really aren't comparable to those against Biden. After all, it's rape, sexual assault and sexual harrassment vs. hair-sniffing.
Whatever Trump did or didn't do has zero influence on the creepiness of Biden's actions.

What crimes alleged on the page you linked was Trump conveicted for?
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Whatever Trump did or didn't do has zero influence on the creepiness of Biden's actions.

What crimes alleged on the page you linked was Trump conveicted for?
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Only Biden took physical action.
But that's just not true, is it now?

For which alleged crimes has Biden been convicted?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump-supporters have a logic all their own. They have no problem with Trump claiming that the (at least) 22 women who have accused him of sexual assault and misconduct are just part of a smear campaign against him, and yet the woman who is accusing Biden of sexual assault and then completely changed her story a year later couldn't possibly be part of a smear campaign against Biden?
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I watched part of a press briefing today where the military guy (I guess Arny Corps of engineers) was talking about building field hospitals and Trump interrupts him to mention same guy is in charge of the wall. Trump suggests he tells them about the 400 some miles they’ve built. Yeah, that will help with identifying and treating people with covid-19.
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Let's also see what current oil prices are doing to America and support for Trump, oil price went negative, Texas barrels have been trading today as low as -$40,- seems like we're running out of storage and even if traders would like they simply can't buy anymore, next step is shutting production sites down. Another hit for American economy.
I still see posts from my friends that are Trump fans about how the low oil price is good, because it means "Trump has bought all that cheap oil and filled the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right to the top!"

We'll see what they say when my fracking-heavy home county is screwed by long-term oil prices. -$40 a barrel? They're barely profitable at +$30...

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Excellent!

Though by my count only three would have been kept out, I believe. And it's not me who would decide but the calendar.
I admit I did very simple math on the less obvious ones. I knew which ones had been older when they took office and which had served longer terms, making them more likely to be 65 or older upon leaving. I went to their linked pages and did rough math - last year in office minus year of birth, disregarding days. Some may well have been 64 years and X days, not 65.

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Only Biden took physical action.
Funny how the mind can tricks on itself, isn't it. (apologies if you actually meant to qualify Biden's actions as sexual assault)...
I wouldn't go so far as to call it sexual assault (yet) but definitely unwanted physical contact. Even Bush 43 freaked out Angela Merkel when he surprised her by rubbing her shoulders.

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Whatever Trump did or didn't do has zero influence on the creepiness of Biden's actions.

What crimes alleged on the page you linked was Trump conveicted for?
Both have their creepy vibes, that's for sure. And AFAIK neither was convicted of anything. With Trump, one can infer some accusations had merit, otherwise there wouldn't be so many payments of hush money over the years.
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