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Old 21.04.2020, 19:53
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I still see posts from my friends that are Trump fans about how the low oil price is good, because it means "Trump has bought all that cheap oil and filled the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right to the top!"
Ignoring the fact that Trump did everything possible to push up the oil price including phoning Putin and the alleged Saudi murderer and then afterwards did several Tweet victory laps on his alleged success.
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Old 21.04.2020, 20:17
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A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19,
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Of course, this was not a proper clinical study nor peer-reviewed but nevertheless as an anecdotal study, it is not encouraging.
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But that's just not true, is it now?

For which alleged crimes has Biden been convicted?
Biden's creepiness is on film, Trump's boasting is on tape. These two are facts.

Everything else, unless there's a conviction or comparabliy solid evidence, is unfounded.

What was your question again?
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Old 21.04.2020, 23:02
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it sexual assault (yet) but definitely unwanted physical contact. Even Bush 43 freaked out Angela Merkel when he surprised her by rubbing her shoulders.
"sexual assault" is your term (and possibly other's), not mine. I called it creepy.

Trump's two hugs shown before don't look like anything out of the ordinary. The girls obviously didn't like it but it's nothing new that this is disregarded (same for boys for that matter). It's like kids being forced to let themselves be kissed by the rich aunt they hate when she comes to visit because the parents won't forfeit the hope for a small inheritance.

Contrary to Trump, Biden didn't approach them visibly, they couldn't at least brace themselves. No, he mostly came from behind and unseen by the girls/women. He was literally creeping up on them. That's creepy in all meanings of the word and makes him a creep.
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Both have their creepy vibes, that's for sure. And AFAIK neither was convicted of anything. With Trump, one can infer some accusations had merit, otherwise there wouldn't be so many payments of hush money over the years.
There's no strength in numbers here, either the respective allegation is true or not. In contrast you're saying there's no smoke without fire, does that mean it's enough to raise x-number of allegations? Throw as much dirt as you can, sooner or later some will stick? To hell with due process? Nonetheless (IIRC according to olygirl) the Republicans are way better with their dirty smear campaigns?

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Neither party has reason to complain, both are despicable. Same for the two candidates, it's once again a matter of "which is less bad" instead of "which is better". The advantage with Trump however is that he can't be re-elected.

Besides, and I'm aware that that's an entirely different topic:
What I actually hear you say is that the allegations must be at least partially true for no other reason than they're raised by women against a man, to hell with due process. Would you react the same if multiple men accused a woman of a sex crime? Or if it's one-on-one like in this case where a woman raped a man? I don't need an answer, that would derail the thread too much, it's enough if you (people) think about it.
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Old 21.04.2020, 23:05
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it sexual assault (yet) but definitely unwanted physical contact. Even Bush 43 freaked out Angela Merkel when he surprised her by rubbing her shoulders.



Both have their creepy vibes, that's for sure. And AFAIK neither was convicted of anything. With Trump, one can infer some accusations had merit, otherwise there wouldn't be so many payments of hush money over the years.
Bush too?

It looks like they all grew up and were "formed" in the Mad Men world.


Their generations still kiss women's hands back home. Don't rub shoulders, thanks goodness for that. Some women still find the gesture creepy. I find it unnecessary albeit flattering and always took me by surprise.
I meant pre-corona times. Poor older people are isolated in their homes now.

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Old 22.04.2020, 13:23
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...What I actually hear you say is that the allegations must be at least partially true for no other reason than they're raised by women against a man, to hell with due process. Would you react the same if multiple men accused a woman of a sex crime?...
You didn't hear me quite right. The allegations against Trump have wound up in court on numerous occasions. Rather than go to trial, Trump's attorneys wisely advised him to settle out of court. Same as with his phony university. If you genuinely did nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, and have the deeper pockets, why settle? If you're genuinely a nice guy, why so many allegations across so many years? Seems fishy at the very least. Biden, AFAIK, has never been taken to court on sexual assault allegations.

And yes to the second part. Doesn't matter who does it, if there are widespread accusations they should be investigated.
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Old 22.04.2020, 13:40
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Doctors should not use a drug combination (hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin) strongly pushed by President Donald Trump to treat patients with coronavirus infections, a US National Institutes of Health panel says in new guidelines published Tuesday.

The guidelines, published online, are meant to guide doctors, nurses and other medical professionals treating patients with Covid-19 and will be updated in real time as more is learned in fighting the pandemic.

The panel is made of up experts from the federal government, universities and professional medical societies.
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So Trump was not only late for the social distancing party but has been promoting a "snake oil" cure that kills people.
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Old 22.04.2020, 15:20
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Biden's creepiness is on film, Trump's boasting is on tape. These two are facts.

Everything else, unless there's a conviction or comparabliy solid evidence, is unfounded.

What was your question again?
That's the point, there's been no conviction -- on either side. Just a lot more smoke on Trump's side than on Biden's, and where there's smoke...
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Old 22.04.2020, 15:26
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That's the point, there's been no conviction -- on either side. Just a lot more smoke on Trump's side than on Biden's, and where there's smoke...
..there is visibility and media presence. Just as Trump likes it.
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Old 22.04.2020, 15:36
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Throw as much dirt as you can, sooner or later some will stick? To hell with due process? Nonetheless (IIRC according to olygirl) the Republicans are way better with their dirty smear campaigns?
This is no (or more accurately, not only a) political smear campaign against Trump. Allegations against him of sexual assault and sexual misbehaviour go back at least to 1989 (the date of the allegations being made, I mean, not even when the offences allegedly occurred). He's just an asshole who has done whatever he pleases for decades, without regard to law or morality, because he's rich enough to "make it all go away"... so far.

Biden, on the other hand, has had no allegations of sexual assault made against him until his run for President started. How odd.

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The advantage with Trump however is that he can't be re-elected.
???? I hope you're right!

I guess you mean that after the coming election, Trump (if he were to win) couldn't be elected to a third term. But IIRC, Biden has already stated that he would serve only one term. He would be 82 at the end of his first term and 86 at the end of a second. It's extremely unlikely that Biden would run again at the age of 82. Nobody expects that of him, least of all Joe Biden.
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Old 22.04.2020, 15:37
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Seems Iran has invented flying boats!
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I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea.
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Whoever posted Trump will never start a war?

I wonder if the Pentagon will obey this illegal order?

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I guess you mean that after the coming election, Trump (if he were to win) couldn't be elected to a third term. But IIRC, Biden has already stated that he would serve only one term. He would be 82 at the end of his first term and 86 at the end of a second. It's extremely unlikely that Biden would run again at the age of 82. Nobody expects that of him, least of all Joe Biden.
So he admits that it's also a bucket list candidacy. He looks like a tired old man that should play scrabble and do the garden. Bernie at least still had energy.
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So he admits that it's also a bucket list candidacy. He looks like a tired old man that should play scrabble and do the garden. Bernie at least still had energy.
Agreed. But he's still not Trump.
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So he admits that it's also a bucket list candidacy. He looks like a tired old man that should play scrabble and do the garden. Bernie at least still had energy.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like this election is going to be more about Trump vs whoever Biden picks for VP, not Trump vs Biden.
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Maybe it's just me, but I feel like this election is going to be more about Trump vs whoever Biden picks for VP, not Trump vs Biden.
It's not just you; I mentioned that a while ago. And Trump's VP (Pence -- assuming Trump keeps him as his wingman) also comes into consideration...
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BOOM! I love this guy. I would vote for him no matter what side he was on, and many independent moderates agree. People may think that the Republican party is morphing into Trumps image. It is not. THIS guy, Mr. Crenshaw, is already a political rockstar. He will be the nominee in 2024. He would beat Trump even now if he wanted too. He's a good facts spitter without ever being insulting, degrading, shows respect but can kill you in an argument or an actual fight. Alpha MFing Male.
Yes I have a man crush on him.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTGBJMDcras
Dan Crenshaw frustrating the hell out of Bill Maher.

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BOOM! I love this guy. I would vote for him no matter what side he was on, and many independent moderates agree. People may think that the Republican party is morphing into Trumps image. It is not. THIS guy, Mr. Crenshaw, is already a political rockstar. He will be the nominee in 2024. He would beat Trump even now if he wanted too. He's a good facts spitter without ever being insulting, degrading, shows respect but can kill you in an argument or an actual fight. Alpha MFing Male.
Yes I have a man crush on him.
Are you harbouring the (de)illusion that facts have anything to do with wining the Presidency? Surely the last 4 years have put that naive idea to bed?!
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BOOM! I love this guy. I would vote for him no matter what side he was on, and many independent moderates agree. People may think that the Republican party is morphing into Trumps image. It is not. THIS guy, Mr. Crenshaw, is already a political rockstar. He will be the nominee in 2024. He would beat Trump even now if he wanted too. He's a good facts spitter without ever being insulting, degrading, shows respect but can kill you in an argument or an actual fight. Alpha MFing Male.
Yes I have a man crush on him.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTGBJMDcras
Dan Crenshaw frustrating the hell out of Bill Maher.
I do not have a crush on him. I don't think he's an alpha either, he's better than that. He would get voted in today, tbh.

The interviewer, however..Wow.
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Are you harbouring the (de)illusion that facts have anything to do with wining the Presidency? Surely the last 4 years have put that naive idea to bed?!
No, people still care about facts, at least I do. All I was trying to point out is how he destroys some of this media hipocracy and TDS. If he disagrees with Trump or anyone he does so in a quite and respectful way, with a smile on his face, as he destroys any argument like a silent assasin.
He will be a welcome change from the crude form of Trump for sure. We can all agree on that. I dont see anyone in the deomocrat party who is going to win in 2020 or even 2024. We will go from Mr. Trump to Mr. Crenshaw. Dems best chance wont come again until 2032
By then I am sure a young independent party will come in and shake things up.......I hope
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No, people still care about facts, at least I do. All I was trying to point out is how he destroys some of this media hipocracy and TDS. If he disagrees with Trump or anyone he does so in a quite and respectful way, with a smile on his face, as he destroys any argument like a silent assasin.
He will be a welcome change from the crude form of Trump for sure. We can all agree on that. I dont see anyone in the deomocrat party who is going to win in 2020 or even 2024. We will go from Mr. Trump to Mr. Crenshaw. Dems best chance wont come again until 2032
By then I am sure a young independent party will come in and shake things up.......I hope
Young and independent and potus integrity worth? Why am I not believing it.

Love the pirate, though, what an intellect, modesty and integrity. I don't care that he's rooting for Rs, makes sense that they would have him, as opposed to Ds.
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