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Old 23.04.2020, 09:22
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Exactly this! Great sound bite but factual, any evidence?
The "Pelosi" vote on flavored tobacco was on Feb 29.
That is six weeks after testing kits ought to have been in full production.


A letter was sent on 24th Feb requesting $2.5B but it was not only for testing and not only sent to Pelosi but also to;
The Honorable Mitch McConnell
The Honorable Charles E. Schumer
The Honorable Kevin McCarthy
The Honorable Richard C. Shelby
The Honorable Nita Lowey
The Honorable Patrick J. Leahy
The Honorable Kay Granger.
who all did nothing about it except $535 million was quickly redirected from the Ebola prevention and treatment budget.

Learn how American government works before being such a damn critic. Makes you look ignorant.
Nancy, and only Nancy has the power.
SHE is the person to blame here. The others cant do anything.
Nancy decided flavored tobacco was more imporntant than covid-19. Not Trump, Nancy yellow skinned jauncy. Bitch needs rehab.
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Learn how American government works before being such a damn critic. Makes you look ignorant.
Nancy, and only Nancy has the power.
SHE is the person to blame here. The others cant do anything.
Nancy decided flavored tobacco was more imporntant than covid-19. Not Trump, Nancy yellow skinned jauncy. Bitch needs rehab.
Why is Trump blamed for Nancy's brainfarts? Why do people lose themselves in the blame game anyways, the pirate's lobotomized interviewer lost so much on viewer ratings exactly because of the immediate populistic blame schtick, beats me..If he just sat there people would applaud him for inviting a pretty fair and positive guest.
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Such a pledge would be incredibly stupid. He'd forfeit the advantage of the sitting POTUS instead of, say, handing the baton to his VP to enable a 11yr presidency after winning the reelection.

Can you back that up?
An 11-year presidency is not possible under the US Constitution.

Biden is believed to have talked about a single term late last year. His campaign rapidly denied it. But seriously, do you believe he would expect to serve until he was 86?
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I believe he claimed they couldnt get the testing done in a timely manner due to Nancy 'pour another drink and pop another pill' Pelosi would rather spend a week banning flavored tobacco than approve Trumps plan.

Flavored fu$%ing tabacco.
She needs rehab....bad.
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Learn how American government works before being such a damn critic. Makes you look ignorant.
Nancy, and only Nancy has the power.
SHE is the person to blame here. The others cant do anything.
Nancy decided flavored tobacco was more imporntant than covid-19. Not Trump, Nancy yellow skinned jauncy. Bitch needs rehab.
You're so consumed by your hatred for Pelosi that, apparently, it's made you blind to Trump's own wrong-doings. You can't criticize people on the left but choose to ignore the mistakes of everyone on the right.
If you think that a "billionaire playboy" (as you just referred to him) who has made his fame and fortune by evading taxes and stealing money from most of the people who have actually built his hotels and casinos, then I guess there is no hope for you, as your mode of logic and moral compass is rather warped in the first place. Do you even really understand how exactly Trump made his money? Or are you just the type of person who worships celebrities? Maybe Kim Kardashian should run for president simply because she's rich and famous.
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Ummm, Hello.

Donald Trump has been celebrated by the media most of his adult life as a billionaire playboy. Donald Trump IS a billionaire playboy. He grabs em by the pu$$y because the pu$$y are throwing themselves at him. They always have. Why the feck are his bedroom antics even a topic given that we know that he is a (ahem) BILLIONAIRE PLAYBOY. FFS.
Of course he has "allegation$". Yes maybe he went a bit too far with a woman or two but did those women put themselves in that situation? Yes, they did, knowing damn well what they were getting into. This free pass because your a woman age is over. They need to be held accountable too.
Coal gives off smoke too you know. Sometimes there is no fire.
probably you dont know who alan partridge is, but that last sentence is straight from Norfolk Nights radio. by the way something else I expect gives off smoke without any fire is when you yourself are dreaming about picking the fleas out the back-fur of alphas, at just that moment before you come round staring at the laptop.

btw I dont know if you realise that when you start talking about celebrity politicians who are funded by a class of alarmist wimps and you start calling them warrior alphas everyone just assumes you had a viagra this morning and been playing too much dungeons and dragons.

dont take it peronally tho, who can say they've never done that.
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You're so consumed by your hatred for Pelosi that, apparently, it's made you blind to Trump's own wrong-doings. You can't criticize people on the left but choose to ignore the mistakes of everyone on the right.
If you think that a "billionaire playboy" (as you just referred to him) who has made his fame and fortune by evading taxes and stealing money from most of the people who have actually built his hotels and casinos, then I guess there is no hope for you, as your mode of logic and moral compass is rather warped in the first place. Do you even really understand how exactly Trump made his money? Or are you just the type of person who worships celebrities? Maybe Kim Kardashian should run for president simply because she's rich and famous.
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probably you dont know who alan partridge is, but that last sentence is straight from Norfolk Nights radio. by the way something else I expect gives off smoke without any fire is when you yourself are dreaming about picking the fleas out the back-fur of alphas, at just that moment before you come round staring at the laptop.

btw I dont know if you realise that when you start talking about celebrity politicians who are funded by a class of alarmist wimps and you start calling them warrior alphas everyone just assumes you had a viagra this morning and been playing too much dungeons and dragons.

dont take it peronally tho, who can say they've never done that.
Guys, before anyone gets carried away with any more hypothetical arguments with Cali Dreamer, he is unfortunately not with us and cannot answer. Wait till/if he returns.
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Why is Trump blamed for Nancy's brainfarts? Why do people lose themselves in the blame game anyways, the pirate's lobotomized interviewer lost so much on viewer ratings exactly because of the immediate populistic blame schtick, beats me..If he just sat there people would applaud him for inviting a pretty fair and positive guest.
What truly really beats me, is how some of you continue to refuse to blame Trump for his absolute and total inadequacy and appaling, dangerous, inhumane, sexist, racist, etc, behaviour - who is lobotomized here?
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What truly really beats me, is how some of you continue to refuse to blame Trump for his absolute and total inadequacy and appaling, dangerous, inhumane, sexist, racist, etc, behaviour - who is lobotomized here?
I am going be polite and opt out of answering your provocation, Odile.

The blame game is completely and utterly inefficient.Watch the video that Cali Dreamer linked, you may understand why I think that Cranshaw will make a good candidate in 2024. People who get caught up in the blame game don't get enough distance, respect, time and energy to actually say what needs to be done. Cranshaw has enough time in his life to make a difference, on a national level. And he certainly wants to. As opposed to wasting the resources and credit by just dissing the naysayers.
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What truly really beats me, is how some of you continue to refuse to blame Trump for his absolute and total inadequacy and appaling, dangerous, inhumane, sexist, racist, etc, behaviour - who is lobotomized here?
I think many people have lost trust in the mainstream media. Studies have shown that his media coverage is overwhelmingly negative with an apparent bias against him.

It's not that they don't see some of the negative sides of him, it's that that they realise that he is held to a completely different standard so they take most news about him with a pinch of salt.
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I am going be polite and opt out of answering your provocation, Odile.
Sorry, YOU accuse people of being lobotomized - and then you call me out for provocation? CQFD.
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The blame game is completely and utterly inefficient.
Well, please tell that to Trump... because that's all he's done throughout his administration. Blame Pelosi and the Democrats for himself being impeached even though the US Constitution specifically states that Presidents should be impeached for bribery. Blame the WHO for their handling of an epidemic after he himself said that it was just part of a "Democratic hoax" and "no big deal." Blame Obama for a lack of masks and ventilators. And the list goes on and on. He is willing to point the finger at anyone but himself.

"Psychological deflection is somewhat similar to blame-shifting and it is a narcissistic abuse tactic that is often used by narcissists but more respectively, Covert narcissists in order to move attention for their bad behaviors away from them, and then redirect it towards other people they may use as their scapegoats. With this tactic, a narcissist is able to control the mind and the emotions of everyone around him/her."
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I think many people have lost trust in the mainstream media. Studies have shown that his media coverage is overwhelmingly negative with an apparent bias against him.

It's not that they don't see some of the negative sides of him, it's that that they realise that he is held to a completely different standard so they take most news about him with a pinch of salt.
I think it just flies over people's heads and makes nobody listen, if you ask me. Since there is nothing else past two years. Cranshaw didn't even want to talk about Trump, I bet it just bores him because it is so constant.

Rebuilding and reconstructing doesn't mean constantly dissing somebody. I like Cranshaw and his vibe. He doesn't entertain though and may be too real and decent for people there. Media and bored people need the show.
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I am going be polite and opt out of answering your provocation, Odile.

The blame game is completely and utterly inefficient.Watch the video that Cali Dreamer linked, you may understand why I think that Cranshaw will make a good candidate in 2024. People who get caught up in the blame game don't get enough distance, respect, time and energy to actually say what needs to be done. Cranshaw has enough time in his life to make a difference, on a national level. And he certainly wants to. As opposed to wasting the resources and credit by just dissing the naysayers.
I did watch it. He’s a decent, respectful fellow who cherry picked his responses, like everyone else. Time will tell how he holds up.

And by the way, lots of people here offer solutions. But they are ignored. You get a bigger response with the outrageous, hand wringing rant.

I think it’s disrespectful of people to call Cranshaw a “pirate” though, especially given how he lost his eye and his service record. Guess that’s too PC.

He had the grace to admit that the attention garnered on SNL probably increased his name recognition and thus helped him get elected. So he understands the power of entertainment. I’m curious to see who he becomes beholden to. That’s American Politics for you.

Oh, and he does have a Texas accent. It’s just not a cartoon accent.
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I think it’s disrespectful of people to call Cranshaw a “pirate”.
Oh, absolutely. The anti-Trump camp will be held to the same standards. I like that
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Oh, absolutely. The anti-Trump camp will be held to the same standards. I like that

Then why do it? Or is this sarcasm?
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Oh, absolutely. The anti-Trump camp will be held to the same standards. I like that
But Trump does not hold himself to any standards, so...
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I think many people have lost trust in the mainstream media. Studies have shown that his media coverage is overwhelmingly negative with an apparent bias against him.

It's not that they don't see some of the negative sides of him, it's that that they realise that he is held to a completely different standard so they take most news about him with a pinch of salt.
Meanwhile, in the real world there is no media bias against Trump.

There is no liberal media bias in which news stories political journalists choose to cover

Is the Media Biased Against Trump? Researchers Have an Answer, No.

The Liberal Media Myth Revisited: An Examination of Factors Influencing Perceptions of Media Bias
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Is this pirate guy is like DT, with the 'pu$$y just throwing themselves at him', or does he get stuck with sunken chests and no booty?
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Many studies show that there is a bias against Trump. And as your own article states "the general public and a significant number of politicians are convinced the U.S. news media have a liberal and pro-Democratic bias."
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Many studies show that there is a bias against Trump. And as your own article states "the general public and a significant number of politicians are convinced the U.S. news media have a liberal and pro-Democratic bias."
Of course, people are entitled to have their opinions about bias but the reality as proven by science is that there is no bias.

I note you are unable to point to even one of these "Many studies".
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