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The media should make sure people know not to try things at home but the hyped headlines are a bit much - and only further bolster Trump's claim that the MSM is biased against him.
He made foolish comments and they could've held him to account but instead they took it way too far.

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He made foolish comments and they could've held him to account but instead they took it way too far.

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This was a press conference on a serious matter. There is absolutely no excuse for his musings except that he's a friggin narcissist who doesn't give a damn on the impact of his words.
And I believe he took it seriously. Not sure what's narcissist about thinking out loud? Maybe there are certain elements of disinfectants which can be extracted and then made salutary. Take for instance ammonium chloride (salmiak). It has so many uses and one of them is in liquorice.

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To him, it's all one big game that he's winning.
Good on him then!
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Please tell me LiB is being sarcastic....please!
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Old 24.04.2020, 22:05
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"'It's irresponsible and it's dangerous': Experts rip Trump's idea of injecting disinfectant to treat COVID-19" - MSNBC

"Coronavirus: Outcry after Trump suggests injecting disinfectant as treatment" - BBC

"Please don’t inject bleach’: Trump’s wild coronavirus claims prompt disbelief " - Guardian

This headline says one thing "It's Not Fake News: Trump Did Actually Suggest That Injecting Bleach Could Be a Cure for COVID-19"...and in the article they say that "technically Trump didn't say that" - Reason.com

and another from CNN: "Fact check: Trump dangerously suggests sunlight and ingesting disinfectants could help cure coronavirus"
It says more about the credit that the media have lost than a politician under pressure trying to figure out what to do. I don't know what to think about people who take it seriously or pretend to take it seriously, tbh.

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Old 24.04.2020, 22:08
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Is says more about the credit that the media have lost than a politician under pressure trying to figure out what to do. I don't know what to think about peple who take it seriously or pretend to take it seriously, tbh.
I'm going to walk away from this thread before I scream in frustration.
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Please tell me LiB is being sarcastic....please!
No, I'm not being sarcastic at all. As stated before, I didn't like him as a celebrity but started to appreciate him after he became president. I even stayed at his hotel in Soho once, that was also before he was made president. Lovely place, I even bought me a bathrobe. . .and the soap, let me tell you about the soap. It was something out of this world. I even wrote the hotel and had them send me some bars to Switzerland. I still didn't like him as a celebrity. But the man is a genius (the way he talks, not the choice of words, because they rather seem limited but the sheer efficacy is unmatched) and he's got drive. One of the most iconic moments I remember vividly is at the White House Correspondents Dinner, when Obama started to make fun of him, publicly humiliating the man. The camera zoomed in on Trump and at the moment you could tell, that he'd set his mind. He left the dinner party early and shortly after he trademarked the "Make America Great Again" slogan. That's admirable. Do I like his speeches? Not necessarily. I do however very much appreciate the fresh wind he brought in after the former sitting duck presidency.
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Old 24.04.2020, 22:18
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It says more about the credit that the media have lost than a politician under pressure trying to figure out what to do. I don't know what to think about people who take it seriously or pretend to take it seriously, tbh.
Ok, so he‘s both a politician under pressure trying to figure out what to do and he‘s not serious?

Maybe he should just shut up and let the experts speak for a few days instead of making suggestions which make him look like a tinfoiled hat idiot or a cold cynic.

Not a bit of compassionate leadership to be found.

And @lib - one man‘s fresh wind is another‘s malodorous fart. Clearly to each his/her own.
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And @lib - one man‘s fresh wind is another‘s malodorous fart. Clearly to each his/her own.
If you're into flatulence, I suppose.
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If you're into flatulence, I suppose.
All about perception, innit?
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About flatulence- indeed.

About Trump, no.
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About flatulence- indeed.

About Trump, no.
We‘d like to think that, but in the end, even Trump is subject to perception.
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An 11-year presidency is not possible under the US Constitution.

Biden is believed to have talked about a single term late last year. His campaign rapidly denied it. But seriously, do you believe he would expect to serve until he was 86?
I think he shouldn't run (yet again) in the first place. Same for Trump (both times) and Sanders.

You're right 11yrs is impossible, but 10-yrs would work. So Biden could resign after 2yrs (plus 1 day just to be sure) of the 2nd term.
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It says more about the credit that the media have lost than a politician under pressure trying to figure out what to do. I don't know what to think about people who take it seriously or pretend to take it seriously, tbh.
Ah, he’s just making a joke! How do you tell?
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This is beyond insane now, how can anyone be beyond that stupid, conservative meritocracy is dead, they’re all just arseholes.
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It says more about the credit that the media have lost than a politician under pressure trying to figure out what to do. I don't know what to think about people who take it seriously or pretend to take it seriously, tbh.
I suppose media is just about OK when it reports those fake news one would agree with?

Media is under attack in every country where there is a "strong" leader* (and not only) if you haven't noticed by now. Let them start the talk. It's really needed.

I think the message conveyed in those innocent questions (they might be innocent under different circumstances or in a different context) might confuse some people. That's the real danger. It's a good thing media called his "innocent" thinking aloud out.

He wasn't in a locker room this time, btw. Speaking of context. I don't know what to believe about the people who defend the undefendable. Or pretend to do it for the sake of the debate and extracting the truth out of a pretty grim situation.

It's OK, you are pro-Trump no matter what and we all got that. Just please try no to police and diminish other voices here, it's unbecoming. Thanks.

*apparently some cultures or segments of population within those cultures root for these types, but even so. They too need to be held responsible for whatever they do and say while in that position. With power there comes responsibility too, or at least it should.

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It's OK, you are pro-Trump no matter what and we all got that. Just please try no to police and diminish other voices here, it's unbecoming. Thanks.
It did not take long for you to be personal. Nobody I know, me included, is pro Trump. I am pro rational debate without the constant emotional outcry which seem to be coming from one direction only.

It is interesting to watch how many big media platforms have overblown that blurt of Trump's. I can see that media are raking ratings on exaggeration and inducing panic and strive on malicious and sensationalist over-interpretation. That is dangerous and unethical. Covid stricken country doesn't need that. What Trump said, well - Trump is Trump, everybody takes him with a giant grain of salt, especially here. His covfefe worked bigly. The blurt did not make the news here nor back in CZ, I wonder why. They refuse to lose credibility here and prefer to pay attention to stuff that matters.

You will just have to live with people here having different opinions without seeing it as "policing".
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It did not take long for you to be personal. Nobody I know, me included, is pro Trump. I am pro rational debate without the constant emotional outcry which seem to be coming from one direction only.

It is interesting to watch how many big media platforms have overblown that blurt of Trump's. I can see that media are raking ratings on exaggeration and inducing panic and strive on malicious and sensationalist over-interpretation. That is dangerous and unethical. Covid stricken country doesn't need that. What Trump said, well - Trump is Trump, everybody takes him with a giant grain of salt, especially here. His covfefe worked bigly. The blurt did not make the news here nor back in CZ, I wonder why. They refuse to lose credidility here and pay attention to stuff that matters.

You will just have to live with people here having different opinions without seeing it as "policing".
Thank you for your opinion. I tried to be the least "personal" as I could but I couldn't find any other way to say it.

I guess we have huge disagreements on what rational debate or emotional outcry mean then. I know the media is overblowing things, sometimes manipulates and is rarely (completely) unbiased, I know all the mortal sins committed by the media, or at least parts of it.

But in this case Trump is doing their job himself. There's no alternative way to see what happens there imo. I am not talking about the old "grab them by the..." thing btw. There is serious stuff for which we can't keep blaming the media.

As for "policing", I also disagree. I can live with it but I can't call it any differently in certain situations. Sorry, it's obvious we disagree on lots of things. Believe it or not, I wish we never had this discussion. I am not DB.
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I can see that media are raking ratings
THAT.

On top of that, nobody likes to see a bully winning. And Trump, who is clearly not a smart person, who is uneducated, blatantly ignorant about anything that is not himself, rude and just the personification of all unbecoming human features, is the president of the US, and stands to win a second round. So who doesn't want to impart a modicum of cosmic justice with a jab at a malicious or stupid comment?
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