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An unfounded and unproven smear campaign started by Trump which he continually fuelled with his demented Twitter rants knowing the racist hatred he was stoking amongst his rabid conspiracy nutjob followers.
Unfounded, let's see:
-Obama was born to an American mother and an African father who was in the States on a scholarship
-His parents met in a Russian language class.
-A few weeks after his birth, he and his mother moved to Seattle.
-From age 6-10, he lived in Indonesia because his mother divorced his estranged father (weird because she left Hawaii shortly after he was born) and married an Indonesian national) who studied in Hawaii.

Absolutely unfounded, huh.
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Precisely the same reasoning which is prevalent among most of the anti Trump hysteria. What else, I didn't bundle my cardboard properly?
Which anti Trump hysteria? How about all the pro-Trump hysteria?

Do you honestly think he's doing a good job?
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I think accusing people of emotional outbursts is a way to say "I really don't like you having an opinion on that" or "I don't like your opinion". I might be wrong, but that's my emotional outburst for you.
You're quite right. It's yet another attempt at censure.
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Old 25.04.2020, 15:59
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Unfounded, let's see:
-Obama was born to an American mother and an African father who was in the States on a scholarship
-His parents met in a Russian language class.
-A few weeks after his birth, he and his mother moved to Seattle.
-From age 6-10, he lived in Indonesia because his mother divorced his estranged father (weird because she left Hawaii shortly after he was born) and married an Indonesian national) who studied in Hawaii.

Absolutely unfounded, huh.
Yes because he was born in Hawaii, therefore he qualified to be president.
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No, it's just a career that is a bit infamous for being 'seedy.' I'm sure there are plenty of decent lawyers out there, like the ones who defend innocent people, such as rape victims, etc.
As a lawyer you have to defend your client in the best way - for the client - you can. Think of doctors - they can't refuse to treat murderers, rapists etc. It is the same thing. Well, as long as they don't hide evidence or commit crimes themselves.

In my opinion, if the criminal gets away with....things is because the whole system is flawed - police for not gathering enough evidence, judges, prosecutors etc etc. Blaming the ones on top or in the middle of this trophic chain (I suspect lawyers are somewhere in the middle) is overlooking the fact that criminals get away too easy/simply get away because many people out there don't do their job.
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I didn't say his birth certificate was spotty, I implied that his background was spotty and therefore, subject to suspicion.
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Old 25.04.2020, 16:06
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That's not a good thing, mate. It's fine not to take what Ricky Gervais says seriously, but Trump is a president. He's supposed to be taken seriously.
Who’s to judge how he’s “supposed” to be taken? All that matters is what is and what isn’t. The press lose their minds with their faux concern about poor, gullible Donald Trump supporters about to kill themselves by injecting themselves with bleach all the time playing completely into his hands. The more outlandish thing Trump says, the more crazier the response from the press. It works for him every single time!

All the time Donald Trump supporters are laughing because their can see exactly what is happening. You may learn, one day.
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Who’s to judge how he’s “supposed” to be taken?
A comediant is supposed to be taken lightly as it's the nature of his profession. The president of a major economy deals with serious matters. It's not written in stone, but it's a very fair assumption that considering the importance of the job, he should be taken seriously.

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I may be misreading what you wrote, but it came across to me as extremely arrogant.
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I can certainly live with that. I can also live with some naivete even. But it's not just the off the cuff remarks that his base "tolerates", it's the bullying, the misoginistic and the racist comments too. If I tolerated that I would have to call myself either machiavellian or hypocrite.
If he was openly hating women and minorities with no grounds I would agree, but what I've mostly seen is him saying things that aren't politically correct but nevertheless true. Some people may find that unacceptable, some people may see it as telling it how it is.
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Old 25.04.2020, 16:27
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If he was openly hating women and minorities with no grounds I would agree, but what I've mostly seen is him saying things that aren't politically correct but nevertheless true. Some people may find that unacceptable, some people may see it as telling it how it is.
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Lost in Broad,

The rules say I cannot ignore you because you are a Mod.

But I can ignore this thread.

Goodbye
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Old 25.04.2020, 16:30
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If he was openly hating women and minorities with no grounds I would agree, but what I've mostly seen is him saying things that aren't politically correct but nevertheless true. Some people may find that unacceptable, some people may see it as telling it how it is.
I don't want to read that you are suggesting that Trump's "openly hating women and minorities" is not without grounds. In my opinion there's no reason for anyone to make misoginistic or racist comments, there's "no grounds" for it.
But please clarify, forums are so prone to misreading intentions.

In any case, I can also tolerate some not-politically correct statements. I'd frown upon a president doing it, but I wouldn't be so shocked. On the other hand, "grabbing them by the p***y" (I know, from way before he was president), "bad people on both sides", the constant name-calling...I find that all despicable in any person, more so in a president.
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Old 25.04.2020, 16:34
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Who’s to judge how he’s “supposed” to be taken? All that matters is what is and what isn’t. The press lose their minds with their faux concern about poor, gullible Donald Trump supporters about to kill themselves by injecting themselves with bleach all the time playing completely into his hands. The more outlandish thing Trump says, the more crazier the response from the press. It works for him every single time!

All the time Donald Trump supporters are laughing because their can see exactly what is happening. You may learn, one day.
And you don't understand how completely immature that is?

It's like the idiot who calls a black person the "N word" and then tries to say they were just saying it to get a rise out of them in order to try to make the guy look overly sensitive. It's a form of gaslighting, essentially.

Do you remember what conservatives and Fox News were doing during Obama's eight years? Every little thing, they would throw a fuss about... like Michelle wearing a sleeveless dress or Obama wearing a tan suit. Or constantly (and irrationally) accusing Obama of being a Muslim and demanding proof that he was born in the US. But when Trump suggests to the public that the injection of disinfectant could possibly kill the coronavirus, it's something that should be ignored by the press? The job of the press is to inform people. But apparently, if they're informing people of things that Trump does in such a way that does NOT stroke his ego, then Trump and his supporters view it as 'fake news" or something that shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Old 25.04.2020, 16:42
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Yes because he was born in Hawaii, therefore he qualified to be president.
You and I believe that. Some in the Birthers movement used the same info LiB does to say that because Obama's life was a bit unusual, the birth certificate issued by the State of Hawaii was fake and that he must have been born in Kenya. And IF he was born in Kenya, because his mother was only 18 then he would not have qualified for citizenship at birth.

Also Hawaii issues both long and short form birth certificates, whereas many states have only one and it's called Certificate of Live Birth, so must be another reason it's fake. And because he spent 4 years of his youth in Indonesia he was a Muslim operative trying to take over the USA and impose Sharia law.
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If he was openly hating women and minorities with no grounds I would agree, but what I've mostly seen is him saying things that aren't politically correct but nevertheless true. Some people may find that unacceptable, some people may see it as telling it how it is.
So you think that men who are serving as the President of the United States should be talking about grabbing women by the p***ies without that being any kind of reflection of their true character? You also have no problem with him saying that all Mexican immigrants are rapists and murderers?

Your mind clearly has a way of filtering things to stroke your cognitive bias. "I don't want to perceive Trump as being a bad person, therefore I refuse to acknowledge any evidence that he is."

You should really educate yourself as to how exactly he came to "fortune and fame" in the 80s in the first place. He took out huge loans to build hotels and casinos, demanded 40-year tax breaks, and then refused to pay the loans back as well as to pay all the contractors and people who built his hotels and casinos. He basically took out huge loans, got rich off them, and then declared bankruptcy numerous times so that he didn't have to pay them back or pay the people who worked for him. But I guess you see no problem with that? Is that just one more thing about Trump that we're supposed to turn a blind eye to?
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Unfounded, let's see:
-Obama was born to an American mother and an African father who was in the States on a scholarship
-His parents met in a Russian language class.
-A few weeks after his birth, he and his mother moved to Seattle.
-From age 6-10, he lived in Indonesia because his mother divorced his estranged father (weird because she left Hawaii shortly after he was born) and married an Indonesian national) who studied in Hawaii.

Absolutely unfounded, huh.

In your rush to copy and paste you missed off a sentence.
Barack Obama born in Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961

On and if US history isn't your strong point, Hawaii became the 50th State on August 21st 1959. Hopefully you can do the math
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In your rush to copy and paste you missed off a sentence.
Barack Obama born in Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961

On and if US history isn't your strong point, Hawaii became the 50th State on August 21st 1959. Hopefully you can do the math
I thought even you and the likes who troll this thread would have known and understood the obvious.

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Which anti Trump hysteria? How about all the pro-Trump hysteria?

Do you honestly think he's doing a good job?
He's doing a much better job than his predecessor.

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Trolls- enough. Perhaps other Mods should decide who the trolls are here, hell bent on stirring. I am out of here too.
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I thought even you and the likes who troll this thread
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Charming! I have no idea what criteria and rules there are for selecting Moderators but perhaps you are in need of a refresher!
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Trying to have an intelligent, rational debate with a Trump-supporter is like trying to have an intelligent, rational debate with someone who thinks the earth is flat or someone who thinks 2,000-year old mythology is more valid than Science.

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