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Yes because he was born in Hawaii, therefore he qualified to be president.
I gathered some people don't believe he was actually born there?
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Absolutely unfounded, huh.
Yes, absolutely unfounded, unless you're a die-hard Trump supporter which believes any lie his party let go.

President Obama was replaced by a complete retard, that only has his own (and that of his close friends) personal wealth in mind, but is great at using his (let's stay with facts) pretty dumb base to attack whoever raises up against him.

While defending their god leader, no matter what. Sexual assault? If their god leader did it, the women must have wanted it!
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Lots of different reactions to assault. One is to freeze absolutely. So, no, not every woman would. And that is a perfectly valid response.
And what about him, he is content to grab their groin (on the outside of their pants I assume) and he is then satisfied? That's it and he walks away?

It doesn't make sense, that's why I believe it was just crude locker room talk.
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And what about him, he is content to grab their groin (on the outside of their pants I assume) and he is then satisfied? That's it and he walks away?

It doesn't make sense, that's why I believe it was just crude locker room talk.

Do some research on pending sexual assault charges and how Trump's lawyers have tried various manoeuvres to delay them while he is President if not have them completely dismissed.
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Do some research on pending sexual assault charges and how Trump's lawyers have tried various manoeuvres to delay them while he is President if not have them completely dismissed.
That's right, he's the only president in the history of presidents who slept with a porn actress and she had to brag about in a book and in the end pay him for it.

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Is he? How's that then.
I've mentioned it earlier in this thread and I don't feel like having to repeat myself to people who refuse to pay attention.
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It's not "stating the obvious" it's stating your opinion. Though the point is probably moot as he was PoTUS already.
You're very aggressive towards anyone with an alternative viewpoint.
It was stating the obvious, because I never negated that he wasn't born in Hawaii and I am certainly aware that Hawaii is also a U.S. state. But as usual, people are taking it out of context, because they assume what they believe in.

Meanwhile, on 3 different occasion, my ability to mod the forum was being questioned, President Trump has been called every name possible under the planet and that simply because I appreciate him more than his predecessor. Do you see where this is going?

People get hysterical about it. . ."grab em by the pussy". . .so what, ever overheard your male or female colleagues talking about somebody of the opposite sex? Get real. Grab em by the pussy is probably the least bit offensive compared to watercooler or bathroom talks happening on a daily basis.

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President Obama was replaced by a complete retard, that only has his own (and that of his close friends) personal wealth in mind, but is great at using his (let's stay with facts) pretty dumb base to attack whoever raises up against him.
Replacing is what happens in China. Democratic countries have elections.
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Do some research on pending sexual assault charges and how Trump's lawyers have tried various manoeuvres to delay them while he is President if not have them completely dismissed.
Yeah that's generally what lawyers do, defend their clients.
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I honestly don't know, if Trump ever did sexually abuse any of them I would hope he has the book thrown at him, but he has never been convicted.
Being a billionaire he usually settles "out of court" but there are ongoing cases which might spoil his "never been convicted" record.
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Old 25.04.2020, 20:33
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So after he grabs their groin baboon, then what? Is he then satisfied and just walks away? Do the women not scream and make a scene?
Do you have a video of this assumed scenario?
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Being a billionaire he usually settles "out of court" but there are ongoing cases which might spoil his "never been convicted" record.
And when he is convicted I'll join in on the criticism, until then people are innocent until proven guilty.
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Replacing is what happens in China. Democratic countries have elections.
And in a democracy presidents or politicians in general can be openly criticised. Being elected doesn't give them a free pass to do whatever they please.
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A comediant is supposed to be taken lightly as it's the nature of his profession. The president of a major economy deals with serious matters. It's not written in stone, but it's a very fair assumption that considering the importance of the job, he should be taken seriously.

I may be misreading what you wrote, but it came across to me as extremely arrogant.
I assure you, it's not arrogance, it's pure frustration. I've watched for the past four years as President Trump's approval has slowly been improving and in recent weeks it has been at its highest ever level. Throughout this time the MSM have carried on lying, mocking and twisting, anything but actually doing their job. Meanwhile President Trump's critics can't seem to move on from calling his supporters stupid. In case you hadn't noticed, IT'S NOT WORKING!!! Perhaps after four years it's time to change tack?!?

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And you don't understand how completely immature that is?

It's like the idiot who calls a black person the "N word" and then tries to say they were just saying it to get a rise out of them in order to try to make the guy look overly sensitive. It's a form of gaslighting, essentially.

Do you remember what conservatives and Fox News were doing during Obama's eight years? Every little thing, they would throw a fuss about... like Michelle wearing a sleeveless dress or Obama wearing a tan suit. Or constantly (and irrationally) accusing Obama of being a Muslim and demanding proof that he was born in the US. But when Trump suggests to the public that the injection of disinfectant could possibly kill the coronavirus, it's something that should be ignored by the press? The job of the press is to inform people. But apparently, if they're informing people of things that Trump does in such a way that does NOT stroke his ego, then Trump and his supporters view it as 'fake news" or something that shouldn't be taken seriously.
In case you hadn't noticed, ALL AMERICAN NEWS NETWORKS HAVE BECOME FOX NEWS! This is the effect President Trump has had, they're all the same! It's horrible journalism, horrible coverage. Every network has an agenda and they get panels of commentators WHO ALL AGREE WITH EACH OTHER and then just start shouting about stuff. That is not news! That is not journalism!

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What works for him? Press coverage?

What exactly do you think the Trump supporters see that non-Trump supporters do not? What will we all learn?

Enlighten us. I shall fetch popcorn.
It's very simple, he is a spanner in the works that annoys the elites and political classes, and for almost that reason alone they stand by him, and will continue to stand by him.
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I assure you, it's not arrogance, it's pure frustration.
I understand that. But I still wonder who's the "you" in "You may learn, one day."

Keep in mind, I'm not from the US, and I don't live there (I did, though, some 10 years ago). I read the news, mostly BBC, NZZ, and a bit of CNN (and every now and then I watch John Oliver and Trevor Noah in Youtube). So I don't consider myself anti-Trump, as much as I'm not an anti-Merkel, anti-Johnson or anti-Putin. But they're all very prominent politicians, and we're in this thread discussing a topic of current political affairs. So I have some opinions based on what seems to be very public knowledge. Having said that, I don't know exactly who you were grouping me with in your collective "you" that will one day learn, but I think it was poorly aimed.
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Do you have a video of this assumed scenario?
I do but it has rude language:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kpKwQAY1ocM
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With the level of debate here- here is Randy to the rescue- I'll leave it at that for tonight

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I assure you, it's not arrogance, it's pure frustration. I've watched for the past four years as President Trump's approval has slowly been improving and in recent weeks it has been at its highest ever level. Throughout this time the MSM have carried on lying, mocking and twisting, anything but actually doing their job. Meanwhile President Trump's critics can't seem to move on from calling his supporters stupid. In case you hadn't noticed, IT'S NOT WORKING!!! Perhaps after four years it's time to change tack?!?

In case you hadn't noticed, ALL AMERICAN NEWS NETWORKS HAVE BECOME FOX NEWS! This is the effect President Trump has had, they're all the same! It's horrible journalism, horrible coverage. Every network has an agenda and they get panels of commentators WHO ALL AGREE WITH EACH OTHER and then just start shouting about stuff. That is not news! That is not journalism!



It's very simple, he is a spanner in the works that annoys the elites and political classes, and for almost that reason alone they stand by him, and will continue to stand by him.
Of course, this is an internet forum so you have whatever opinions you wish.

But if you want to claim President Trump's approval in recent weeks has been at its highest ever level then you need to provide some proof for your claims.

The Rasmussen poll, on 24 April, which is normally very favourable for Trump shows approve 45% and disapprove 54%.
The real clear politics poll of polls shows April average Trump approve 45.8% and disapprove 52%.

FiveThirtyEight poll of polls shows Trump average approve 43.4% and disapprove 52.4%.

CNN Poll of Polls shows Trump average approve 45% and disapprove 51% so I have to challenge your claim President Trump's approval has been at its highest ever level as false. His approval did rise (to ca. -4) when he started properly tackling the coronavirus pandemic but he squandered this approval with his daily press briefings that are full of lies and stupid recommendations.

Without you providing any supporting evidence I have to challenge your claim that the MSM have carried on lying and twisting as also false.
Of course, I agree the orange clown does get mocked but for good reasons.
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I assure you, it's not arrogance, it's pure frustration. I've watched for the past four years as President Trump's approval has slowly been improving and in recent weeks it has been at its highest ever level.
In a perceived national crisis this happens always. Look at Johnson's ratings in the UK a few weeks ago. On Gallup Trump's approval hit the heights of 49% mid March but since then is back close to his constant score of within about 3 points of 40%. It's been in the ÷/- 3 point range there the whole time. Only Bush 1 comes close to being that bad

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/...ald-trump.aspx
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Some boring facts.

Boston Globe: "The United States has just over 4 percent of the world’s population, but had about one-third of all global coronavirus cases and one-quarter of the fatalities, as of Friday."
"This is a catastrophic failure that can be laid largely at the feet of President Trump."
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And what about him, he is content to grab their groin (on the outside of their pants I assume) and he is then satisfied? That's it and he walks away?

It doesn't make sense, that's why I believe it was just crude locker room talk.
Sexual predators get their kicks in many different ways. However, one of the motivators can be power over another. So, possibly. But asserting it can't have happened or have been that awful because no-one screamed is bull.

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I've mentioned it earlier in this thread and I don't feel like having to repeat myself to people who refuse to pay attention.

It was stating the obvious, because I never negated that he wasn't born in Hawaii and I am certainly aware that Hawaii is also a U.S. state. But as usual, people are taking it out of context, because they assume what they believe in.

Meanwhile, on 3 different occasion, my ability to mod the forum was being questioned, President Trump has been called every name possible under the planet and that simply because I appreciate him more than his predecessor. Do you see where this is going?

People get hysterical about it. . ."grab em by the pussy". . .so what, ever overheard your male or female colleagues talking about somebody of the opposite sex? Get real. Grab em by the pussy is probably the least bit offensive compared to watercooler or bathroom talks happening on a daily basis.
Arrogant much? I have neither the time nor the inclination to wade through this entire thread for your posts.

What context? If he was born in Hawaii, then what's the issue? Weird.

You're somehow equating yourself with Trump because someone hurt your feelings and presumably dented your ego?

I have heard a lot of very inappropriate stuff over the years, some far worse even than that, but it doesn't make it ok. Trump was either doing what a lot of small-membered littlebigmen do and was bragging to the cool kids, or he genuinely thought it an acceptable thing to say /admit to out loud. Either way it demonstrates his utter lack of respect for women and calls his character into question. IMO, obvs.

I get it: you're either playing devil's advocate for shits and giggles or you do genuinely think Trump is a decent dude and a good politician. Your prerogative. Doesn't make folk on the other side hysterical. Using terms like that about folk you are presumably trying to assert your superior reasoning over makes you appear something of a tool.
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