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Old 26.04.2020, 15:39
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Brad Pitt plays Dr. Anthony Fauci on 'Saturday Night Live,' takes aim at Trump

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Simply delightful. I didn't care for Brad when he was younger but he's been maturing like a high-quality wine.
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Old 26.04.2020, 17:45
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Simply delightful. I didn't care for Brad when he was younger but he's been maturing like a high-quality wine.
In one interview, Dr Fauci joked that Brad Pitt would play him in the movie version. And here we are.....close, anyway.
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Old 26.04.2020, 21:31
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She's very intelligent. I have the feeling that she'll refuse to run for president and rightly so.
Michelle Obama doesn't need to run for president—just vice-president.

A Biden/Obama ticket would sweep Trump/Pence away. Then, as everybody anticipates, Biden steps down and Obama 47 takes over, with a very useful aide in Obama 44. Or, probably less likely, Michele Obama resigns just after the election and is replaced by Pete Buttigieg, or someone else of Biden's or the party's choosing, who in due course replaces Biden during his first term.

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Old 26.04.2020, 21:35
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Michelle Obama doesn't need to run for president—just vice-president.

A Biden/Obama ticket would sweep Trump/Pence away. Then, as everybody anticipates, Biden steps down and Obama 47 takes over, with a very useful wide in Obama.44. Or, probably less likely, Michele Obama resigns just after the election and is replaced by Pete Buttigieg, or someone else of Biden's or the party's choosing, who in due course replaces Biden during his first term.
Probably wouldn't work that way. If the President/Vice President aren't fit for office or not available for some reason then the Speaker of the House is the next in line.
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Old 26.04.2020, 22:13
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Probably wouldn't work that way. If the President/Vice President aren't fit for office or not available for some reason then the Speaker of the House is the next in line.
That's only if they're simultaneously not fit for office, such as if both are assassinated at the same time. 22y's scenario might be unlikely but not impossible.

Take Gerald Ford, for example. He was not elected with Richard Nixon. Spirow Agnew was. Agnew resigned, and Ford was appointed by Nixon as the new VP and confirmed by Congress. When Nixon subsequently resigned, Ford became president despite not having been elected by the Electoral College. Then there was no VP again so Ford nominated Nelson Rockefeller, who was also confirmed by Congress.
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If WHO was to blame then how come the US is the only government in the world blaming WHO for their own internal problems.

Just demonstrates how Trump always blames others for his own failures.
Definitely, you'd think that the media would take him up on this. There's plenty of real blame Trump has to take, or should have to take, actually. Instead they make stuff up and even lie.
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Old 26.04.2020, 23:25
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Whatever is posted about what Trump actually said or did not say about disinfectants, there is clearly a subgroup who now believe disinfectants are a coronavirus solution
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"We had hundreds of calls in our hotline here in Maryland about people asking about injecting or ingesting these disinfectants, which is, you know, hard to imagine that people thought that that was serious.
But what people actually were thinking about this, was this something you could do to protect yourself?" Governor Hogan, a Republican, said in an interview on CBS.
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Old 26.04.2020, 23:47
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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

I work from early in the morning until late at night, haven’t left the White House in many months (except to launch Hospital Ship Comfort) in order to take care of Trade Deals, Military Rebuilding etc., and then I read a phony story in the failing @nytimes about my work schedule and eating habits, written by a third rate reporter who knows nothing about me.
I will often be in the Oval Office late into the night & read & see that I am angrily eating a hamburger & Diet Coke in my bedroom.
People with me are always stunned.
Anything to demean!
Not left the White House in many months? What a liar!

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Whatever is posted about what Trump actually said or did not say about disinfectants, there is clearly a subgroup who now believe disinfectants are a coronavirus solution
Asking a question is not the same as believing something to be true.

The real question behind those calls however is what caused that perception. It may be unanswerable but clearly lies in headlines claiming that "Trump suggests injecting disinfectants to fight the Coronavirus" or some such doesn't help.

Quite the contrary.
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Old 27.04.2020, 09:29
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If WHO was to blame then how come the US is the only government in the world blaming WHO for their own internal problems.
Oh dear, this isn't true. It appears that you have also fallen into the same trap as much of the MSM and now ape President Trump's levels of honesty.

Be sure to congratulate yourself in November for the great job you've done of holding him to account
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And the WHO are far more to blame for today’s situation than President Trump, it is their specific job to prevent/limit pandemics! Instead they believed every single lie that China told them for months as the virus spread and then didn’t declare a pandemic until mid-March. Now they should be held to account as they have failed more than any government!
You do realise that WHO is basing their activity on what various countries report and they don't send troops to any place to force the govs report correctly?

Do we still argue that a lot of countries dismissed their recommendations, however late they were, and adopted travel restrictions and quarantine measures much later than they could/should have done it? I'm not sure people do what they should even now, if I am to believe global news. How is WHO to blame for everything?
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Old 27.04.2020, 10:19
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You do realise that WHO is basing their activity on what various countries report and they don't send troops to any place to force the govs report correctly?

Do we still argue that a lot of countries dismissed their recommendations, however late they were, and adopted travel restrictions and quarantine measures much later than they could/should have done it? I'm not sure people do what they should even now, if I am to believe global news. How is WHO to blame for everything?
The WHO has behaved disgracefully and has been an accessory to this disaster. They took the Chinese line in the crucial weeks of January and spread their lies (reported that their was no human to human transmission, refrained from declaring a health emergency of international concern until Jan 30th). Even when they did admit to transmission was taking place, they played down its severity. The WHO then advised AGAINST travel bans.

Various countries is also a stretch. Taiwan reported their first cases of Coronavirus on Jan 21st but were never consulted by the WHO because China.

The charge list is long and will be longer once an official inquiry takes place. They are not to blame for everything, but have have failed miserably.
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The WHO has behaved disgracefully and has been an accessory to this disaster. They took the Chinese line in the crucial weeks of January and spread their lies (reported that their was no human to human transmission, refrained from declaring a health emergency of international concern until Jan 30th). Even when they did admit to transmission was taking place, they played down its severity. The WHO then advised AGAINST travel bans.

Various countries is also a stretch. Taiwan reported their first cases of Coronavirus on Jan 21st but were never consulted by the WHO because China.

The charge list is long and will be longer once an official inquiry takes place. They are not to blame for everything, but have have failed miserably.
Much like the UN of which the WHO is a part of, enforcement is not their strongpoint nor part of their mandate. While there have been many failures by the UN and WHO throughout their history, I reckon they have done much more good than harm. Under the circumstances, I believe that the WHO has handled this current crisis admirably.
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The WHO then advised AGAINST travel bans.
Terrible because the US's travel ban was so successful, wasn't it?

Remind me again, how many cases there?

Travel bans were never going to work because they never applied to and couldn't apply to returning nationals. Pretty well no country has the legal power to ban its own nationals for entering. It was always infinitely more returning nationals that transmitted the virus, not Chinese visitors.
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I work from early in the morning until late at night, haven’t left the White House in many months (except to launch Hospital Ship Comfort) in order to take care of Trade Deals, Military Rebuilding etc., and then I read a phony story in the failing @nytimes about my work schedule and eating habits, written by a third rate reporter who knows nothing about me.
I will often be in the Oval Office late into the night & read & see that I am angrily eating a hamburger & Diet Coke in my bedroom.
People with me are always stunned.
Anything to demean!
Not left the White House in many months? What a liar!

In the real world
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BTW, from the Trump deleted tweets database the stable genius had two attempts to spell hamburger correctly!
Attachment 139310
Still waiting for the Trump apologists to explain this one.

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The WHO has behaved disgracefully and has been an accessory to this disaster. They took the Chinese line in the crucial weeks of January and spread their lies (reported that their was no human to human transmission, refrained from declaring a health emergency of international concern until Jan 30th). Even when they did admit to transmission was taking place, they played down its severity. The WHO then advised AGAINST travel bans.

Various countries is also a stretch. Taiwan reported their first cases of Coronavirus on Jan 21st but were never consulted by the WHO because China.

The charge list is long and will be longer once an official inquiry takes place. They are not to blame for everything, but have have failed miserably.
More #fakenews

Seems you have a different calendar than the rest of us?
14 January 2020 WHO said there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission but would not be surprising given our experience with SARS, MERS and other respiratory pathogens.

22 January 2020 WHO mission to China issued a statement saying that there was evidence of human-to-human transmission.

In your calendar "14 Jan to 22 Jan" is " in the crucial weeks of January" in my calendar it is a week and a day!

Your claim is "refrained from declaring a health emergency of international concern until Jan 30th". Actually on 22 - 23 January 2020 the WHO Director-General convened an Emergency Committee to assess whether the outbreak constituted a public health emergency of international concern.
It took until 30th January before WHO received the necessary approval from their members to make this health emergency statement.

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WHO did not consult Taiwan because Taiwan is not a member of WHO. Only WHO members get the benefits paid for by their membership fees.
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Old 27.04.2020, 11:35
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Oh dear, this isn't true. It appears that you have also fallen into the same trap as much of the MSM and now ape President Trump's levels of honesty.

Be sure to congratulate yourself in November for the great job you've done of holding him to account
What trap are you talking about?
Your post makes no sense?

So please do educate us, which other WHO member countries are blaming WHO?
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Asking a question is not the same as believing something to be true.

The real question behind those calls however is what caused that perception. It may be unanswerable but clearly lies in headlines claiming that "Trump suggests injecting disinfectants to fight the Coronavirus" or some such doesn't help.

Quite the contrary.
Why would anyone ask a question about something they did not believe to be true?
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Old 27.04.2020, 11:40
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... How is WHO to blame for everything?
Everyone has to place blame somewhere, and the WHO is an easy target. It only has 194 member states after all.

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Still waiting for the Trump apologists to explain this one.
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