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It just demonstrates how far the Democrats have fallen when they're struggling to find a candidate who is able to take on Donald 'the pussy grabber' Trump.
I think this is what unfortunately happens when you attribute your political failure to your opponent instead of yourself.

I am boring myself with that one idea I have had for four years, who cares how Trump is. Everybody should care how his opponents are.
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Old 30.04.2020, 15:45
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It just demonstrates how far the Democrats have fallen when they're struggling to find a candidate who is able to take on Donald 'the pussy grabber' Trump.
A fact-free claim without evidence, the reality from the polls.
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A fact-free claim without evidence, the reality from the polls.
Trump is pretty unpollable mind. There's a significant Reverse Bradley effect going on.

Pretty much all the polls in the final run up to 2016 had him 40-45 and he got 46. If you look closer, college educated whites voted way more republican than the polls were suggesting.
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Trump is pretty unpollable mind. There's a significant Reverse Bradley effect going on.

Pretty much all the polls in the final run up to 2016 had him 40-45 and he got 46. If you look closer, college educated whites voted way more republican than the polls were suggesting.
Because they did not vote for Trump but they voted against his opponents. Dems were not good enough. It was not a fluke and it will repeat if they don't step up their game instead of dissing Trump. He is already in power, they are not.

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Trump is pretty unpollable mind. There's a significant Reverse Bradley effect going on.

Pretty much all the polls in the final run up to 2016 had him 40-45 and he got 46. If you look closer, college educated whites voted way more republican than the polls were suggesting.
Hillary had 46 and finished up with 48 so quite similar.

Biden has 6+ over Trump which is better than Hillary's 3+.
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A fact-free claim without evidence, the reality from the polls.
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^^^ exactly.

Trump-supporters are trying their best to paint Biden as being a weak candidate (as well as a rapist, having dementia, etc.). But no matter who it was as the leading Democratic candidate right now, Trump and Republicans would be looking for ways to attack them. And Fox News is doing its best to try to convince its readers that Biden is losing support, but that clearly isn't the case.

People talk about America being divided more than ever right now, and the way it really seems to be divided is between the people who are able to see the bulls**t as being the bulls**t that it is, and those who don't.

Now that Biden is leading in the polls -- and Trump is no longer able to try to praise himself for an economy that he didn't even create -- I'm sure the right is going to become more and more aggressive in their attacks against Biden out of their desperation to win the election. In fact, I'd bet both my kidneys on it.

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Trump is pretty unpollable mind. There's a significant Reverse Bradley effect going on.

Pretty much all the polls in the final run up to 2016 had him 40-45 and he got 46. If you look closer, college educated whites voted way more republican than the polls were suggesting.
They try to invalidate the polls when they're not in Trump's favor but otherwise exclaim "the polls show Trump is going to win!"
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Old 30.04.2020, 16:44
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Because they did not vote for Trump but they voted against his opponents. Dems were not good enough. I was not a fluke and it will repeat if they don't step up their game instead of dissing Trump. He is already in power, they are not.
Not really, Hillary won the popular vote.
Her failure was a poor strategy and a failure to campaign well in some states which swung the electoral college votes.
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Trump can boast record high levels of black employment but Biden also believes that poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.

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Not really, Hillary won the popular vote.
Her failure was a poor strategy and a failure to campaign well in some states which swung the electoral college votes.
I think that's a massive understatement.

She thought she could rely on and win with left-leaning urban voters and that she could afford to openly show contempt for those whose votes she considered expendable.
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Trump can boast record high levels of black employment but Biden also believes that poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.
Yes, they are at a record low, but black unemployment levels had already been declining for years before Trump was president.

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Indeed, that was odd when Biden had said that. But maybe it's due to his understanding of the fact that African American kids make up a large percentage of the total number of kids in poverty in the US. Despite blacks only making up 13% of the entire US population, 34% of children in poverty in the US are African American (compared to only 11% being white). So someone can look at his statement as being racist if they want to see it that way or as Biden recognizing racism and inequality as being a problem and that poverty among African Americans is disproportionately high in the US, compared to whites.
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I think that's a massive understatement.

She thought she could rely on and win with left-leaning urban voters and that she could afford to openly show contempt for those whose votes she considered expendable.
I do not think she genuinely thought that though. I think it was a front she put up to get votes she would have gotten anyways, which was her mistake. It completely turned off the voters she could have had.
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I do not think she genuinely thought that though. I think it was a front she put up to get votes she would have gotten anyways, which was her mistake. It completely turned off the voters she could have had.
I think she genuinely believed/believes that Trump supporters are a "basket of deplorables".
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Trump can boast record high levels of black employment but Biden also believes that poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.
I'll pretty confidently guess that it'll be 90% democrat...
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I think she genuinely believed/believes that Trump supporters are a "basket of deplorables".
Best tweet of yesterday.
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I truly do wonder if the 85 members who voted yes in the OP poll - would still vote for him?
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Trump can boast record high levels of black employment but Biden also believes that poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.
No thanks to the Trump organisation that fired all, correction many, correction some of their illegal immigrants who were are paid below minimum wage.
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I think Bloomberg would have been good. But he was never going to win the primary with his very centrist views.
Rumor has it that he only ran to keep Bernie from winning as his plans on tax reform would have cost Bloomberg $4-5bln. CNN for example, the actual amount is of course a guessing game, and the entire idea just speculation.
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A fact-free claim without evidence, the reality from the polls.
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I think she genuinely believed/believes that Trump supporters are a "basket of deplorables".

Yes ! so did I
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I do not think she genuinely thought that though. I think it was a front she put up to get votes she would have gotten anyways, which was her mistake. It completely turned off the voters she could have had.
Methinks she was trying to fire up the people who would have voted for her anyway by making them snigger about those whose votes she would have to fight for. From the reactions I saw on facebook the initial reaction to her famous controversial statment among her supporters was indeed a lot of sniggering and nudging and laughing at a good put down for people who were generally disliked. I have no doubt she wasn't the first among the influential of her party to speak like that. But she made the mistake of doing so publically.
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