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Indeed, that was odd when Biden had said that. But maybe it's due to his understanding of the fact that African American kids make up a large percentage of the total number of kids in poverty in the US. Despite blacks only making up 13% of the entire US population, 34% of children in poverty in the US are African American (compared to only 11% being white). So someone can look at his statement as being racist if they want to see it that way or as Biden recognizing racism and inequality as being a problem and that poverty among African Americans is disproportionately high in the US, compared to whites.
Either that or in his mind he just associates being poor with being not white.
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I truly do wonder if the 85 members who voted yes in the OP poll - would still vote for him?
start a new poll and find out?
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Either that or in his mind he just associates being poor with being not white.
He probably never heard the epithet "trailer trash"?
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And how exactly it is it clear that he is "suffering from dementia/Alzheimers?"

He seems very coherent in every recent video that I've seen of him speaking.
Yes, this. He seemed coherent to me too though I wish he was younger. Had more... energy? But Trump and him are about the same age, so this shouldn't be a real problem. Maybe he could have spiced up a little his communication style.
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I think Bloomberg would have been good. But he was never going to win the primary with his very centrist views.
Me too. I'd have gone with this one.


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I actually like Tulsi Gabbard and thought that Andrew Yang would have been interesting (although he is not the most inspirational public speaker). For some reason, Gabbard, was not the party elite's favorite (good ole Hilary insinuated that the "Russians" were backing Gabbard!)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/u...on-russia.html

Maybe, both were too conservative for the Party? They certainly were not given much coverage by the media.
Definitely (very) likeable, both of them. But whether the public would have liked them or not...who knows.
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He probably never heard the epithet "trailer trash"?
He probably did but he just forgot about it.
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Either that or in his mind he just associates being poor with being not white.
Perhaps. But the sad reality is that the average black household income in the US is much lower than that of whites. And acknowledging the problem of poverty among African Americans in the US is not racism.

"Black Americans are more than twice as likely as whites or Asian Americans to live in poverty. According to a report by the Brookings Institution, black Americans encounter inequalities in education, discrimination in the workplace, ineffective parenting, high incarceration rates, and more. One in eight Americans are black, but black Americans make up more than one-fourth of the nation’s poor population."
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/...tors/37977173/

This is a website owned and run by African Americans and even they acknowledge the problem of poverty among blacks in the US:
https://blackdemographics.com/households/poverty/
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And how exactly it is it clear that he is "suffering from dementia/Alzheimers?"

He seems very coherent in every recent video that I've seen of him speaking.
Here you go Pancakes... a list of recent interviews with Joe where he clearly exhibits signs of memory loss/dementia. Having witnessed my Mom struggle with this affliction, I feel badly for him and his family. Note: It is repugnant for the Republican Party to capitalize on this (but then again, I guess both parties resort to the same tactics!)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...and_flubs.html
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Yes, this. He seemed coherent to me too though I wish he was younger. Had more... energy? But Trump and him are about the same age, so this shouldn't be a real problem. Maybe he could have spiced up a little his communication style.
It would be nice to see a younger person in the White House (depending on who that younger person was), but at this point, I think I'd be happy with anyone who isn't a manipulative psychopath with the maturity level of a two-year old. Biden might not be the type to get overly excited, like Trump is, but at least he is sane and mild-mannered, for the most part. And he's not treating the world like it's some kind of ego trip for himself.
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start a new poll and find out?
Best ask people directly imho- or do you think people who still support him would prefer to be anonymous, for whatever reason?
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Here you go Pancakes... a list of recent interviews with Joe where he clearly exhibits signs of memory loss/dementia. Having witnessed my Mom struggle with this affliction, I feel badly for him and his family. Note: It is repugnant for the Republican Party to capitalize on this (but then again, I guess both parties resort to the same tactics!)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...and_flubs.html
That article starts out by saying the following:

"Over the past several weeks the "GOP War Room" YouTube account run by the National Republican Committee has been compiling a database of every verbal flub, gaffe, and potentially embarrassing slip-up made by presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden on the campaign trail."
One of the examples they give is a video where Biden is being interviewed by a guy over the Internet and Biden said he just realized that he was looking at the guy instead of into the camera. And the interviewer, who wasn't even 40 years old, said that he realized he was doing the same thing.
So how exactly is that a sign of dementia or Alzheimer's?
Another example is when he says "It shows my three granddaughters or rather four granddaughters..." He immediately corrected himself.
I mean, seriously... There is not a single video or example in there that actually shows a sign of dementia. What it does show is that some people are clearly desperately looking for reasons to accuse him of having dementia.
That article is absolutely ridiculous, and it's truly mind-blowing that you aren't able to realize that for yourself.
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Best ask people directly imho- or do you think people who still support him would prefer to be anonymous, for whatever reason?
A couple of them mentioned here that they still support Trump. Not everyone wants to remain anonymous though I'm pretty sure some do.

Sometimes it's pretty obvious who fits certain patterns, but I wouldn't make people feel uncomfortable because of that. Only if they're jerks.....kidding. I'm rather gentle.
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Well 86 said they thought Trump would be a good President- and I am sure I have not seen 86 speak openly in his favour here.

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That article starts out by saying the following:

"Over the past several weeks the "GOP War Room" YouTube account run by the National Republican Committee has been compiling a database of every verbal flub, gaffe, and potentially embarrassing slip-up made by presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden on the campaign trail."
One of the examples they give is a video where Biden is being interviewed by a guy over the Internet and Biden said he just realized that he was looking at the guy instead of into the camera. And the interviewer, who wasn't even 40 years old, said that he realized he was doing the same thing.
So how exactly is that a sign of dementia or Alzheimer's?
Another example is when he says "It shows my three granddaughters or rather four granddaughters..." He immediately corrected himself.
I mean, seriously... There is not a single video or example in there that actually shows a sign of dementia. What it does show is that some people are clearly desperately looking for reasons to accuse him of having dementia.
That article is absolutely ridiculous, and it's truly mind-blowing that you aren't able to realize that for yourself.
Wrong! I watched several live interviews with Joe... Maybe you should do the same?? Or perhaps given his gaffes and clear lack of recall, maybe you should research early signs of dementia?
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Wrong! I watched several live interviews with Joe... Maybe you should do the same?? Or perhaps given his gaffes and clear lack of recall, maybe you should research early signs of dementia?
Can you find some specific examples for me? A lack of recall is something that anyone can do, of any age. It's also a symptom of Post-traumatic Stress Disorder and anxiety.

According to the NHS website, these are the "Common early symptoms of dementia":
memory loss.
difficulty concentrating.
finding it hard to carry out familiar daily tasks, such as getting confused over the correct change when shopping.
struggling to follow a conversation or find the right word.
being confused about time and place.
mood changes.

Source: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/dementia/symptoms/

Awkward Moment Trump Forgets to Sign Executive Order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXHDc9SXVI
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Can you find some specific examples for me? A lack of recall is something that anyone can do, of any age. It's also a symptom of Post-traumatic Stress Disorder and anxiety.

According to the NHS website, these are the "Common early symptoms of dementia":
memory loss.
difficulty concentrating.
finding it hard to carry out familiar daily tasks, such as getting confused over the correct change when shopping.
struggling to follow a conversation or find the right word.
being confused about time and place.
mood changes.

Source: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/dementia/symptoms/

Awkward Moment Trump Forgets to Sign Executive Order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXHDc9SXVI
I saw an interview with Biden where he was having difficulty reading his notes and the teleprompter. The host was beyond embarrassed for him. There are several of these interviews but I will try and find and post . At least, you are not claiming that his lack of recall is due to stuttering issues... I would say given what I have seen in interviews, Biden struggles with "finding the right word and struggling to follow conversation" and "difficulties in concentration" as per the NHS description of Dementia.

It looks as though Biden has much more to deal with, given recent sexual assault claims. PS..Trump is beyond a narcissist and an egomaniac. Everything is about him! Biden has much on his plate at the moment and we shall see how he responds. Will look for the interviews to which I referred
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It would be nice to see a younger person in the White House (depending on who that younger person was), but at this point, I think I'd be happy with anyone who isn't a manipulative psychopath with the maturity level of a two-year old. Biden might not be the type to get overly excited, like Trump is, but at least he is sane and mild-mannered, for the most part. And he's not treating the world like it's some kind of ego trip for himself.
I think that's why Buttigieg had such momentum early on, despite "only" being a mayor of a smaller city. He was well spoken and had some okay ideas. Unfortunately for him, he didn't have name recognition in minority communities, and anyway Americans would rather vote for Crazy Trump or Sleepy Joe than for a gay guy (or God forbid, a woman).
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I apologize in advance for the source, but it was the only place I could find the news clip. This is what I watched:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...-with-a-thing/

Click on the link to the video and disregard the commentary...
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Trump apparently not enjoying his poll ratings

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I apologize in advance for the source, but it was the only place I could find the news clip. This is what I watched:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...-with-a-thing/

Click on the link to the video and disregard the commentary...
You're referring to the clip in there of Biden's interview on CNN?
It does seem like he's trying to find the right words and is distracted by whatever he's looking down at (papers, I assume). But he's not doing anything that any of us couldn't do, particularly if we're tired and/or stressed out. I'm only in my 40s, but if I go a few days without proper sleep, I'm sure I probably show signs of what could be interpreted as dementia.
That's really the only example you could find?
How about all the videos of Biden speaking very coherently?
I could find numerous examples of Trump loses his train of thought, forgetting what he had just said minutes prior or even slurring his speech. Are those also signs of dementia?
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