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You're referring to the clip in there of Biden's interview on CNN?
It does seem like he's trying to find the right words and is distracted by whatever he's looking down at (papers, I assume). But he's not doing anything that any of us couldn't do, particularly if we're tired and/or stressed out. I'm only in my 40s, but if I go a few days without proper sleep, I'm sure I probably show signs of what could be interpreted as dementia.
That's really the only example you could find?
How about all the videos of Biden speaking very coherently?
I could find numerous examples of Trump loses his train of thought, forgetting what he had just said minutes prior or even slurring his speech. Are those also signs of dementia?
Joe Biden is clearly dealing with cognitive issues, let's not make this harder than it needs to be.
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Indeed, that was odd when Biden had said that. But maybe it's due to his understanding of the fact that African American kids make up a large percentage of the total number of kids in poverty in the US.
So when Trump says something stupid it is turned into a lie that's used as a frontpage headline.

However when Biden says something similarly stupid that can easily seen as racist it's ... a complete nonevent.

Why am I not surprised.

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I'm not criticising you personally, Pancakes, the quote just makes it clear what my post is about. My post targets the MSM, their misreporting, their lies, and those who defend them and apparently find their lies perfectly Ok.

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Joe Biden is clearly dealing with cognitive issues, let's not make this harder than it needs to be.
Nevertheless, he is polling a lot better than Trump; how far has Trump fallen!
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So when Trump says something stupid it is turned into a lie that's used as a frontpage headline.

However when Biden says something similarly stupid that can easily seen as racist it's ... a complete nonevent.

Why am I not surprised.

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I'm not criticising you personally, Pancakes, the quote just makes it clear what my post is about. My post targets the MSM, their misreporting, their lies, and those who defend them and apparently find their lies perfectly Ok.
Trump is president , Biden is not YET .Hopeful he picks smart Vice president, like Kerry
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Nevertheless, he is polling a lot better than Trump; how far has Trump fallen!


Not far enough
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump's press conference about 20 minutes ago after Trump claimed to have seen evidence the coronavirus was produced in a Wuhan lab.
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JOHN ROBERTS (R): The Director of National Intelligence put out a statement saying they think the coronavirus was naturally occurring

TRUMP: Who?

R: It was a statement from the DNI office

TRUMP: Oh, he would know that, huh?

R: That would be your Director of National Intelligence
I do not know whether to laugh or cry.
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You're referring to the clip in there of Biden's interview on CNN?
It does seem like he's trying to find the right words and is distracted by whatever he's looking down at (papers, I assume). But he's not doing anything that any of us couldn't do, particularly if we're tired and/or stressed out. I'm only in my 40s, but if I go a few days without proper sleep, I'm sure I probably show signs of what could be interpreted as dementia.
That's really the only example you could find?
How about all the videos of Biden speaking very coherently?
I could find numerous examples of Trump loses his train of thought, forgetting what he had just said minutes prior or even slurring his speech. Are those also signs of dementia?
You clearly need to watch more Biden interviews Pancakes. I could care less about Trump and never voted for him nor do I support him so let's not deflect here please. You can believe your own narrative as much as you want; my point, was that the Democratic Party could have and should have chosen better based on Biden's issues - and it would appear that those issues are not just cognitively related as he now faces sexual assault claims.
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Trump is president , Biden is not YET .Hopeful he picks smart Vice president, like Kerry
Trump boasted about pussy-grabbing before his election. Same applies to everything he said during his campaign.

What are double standards?

And what about the recent rape allegations against Biden? Do allegations only count when they target Trump?
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You clearly need to watch more Biden interviews Pancakes. I could care less about Trump and never voted for him nor do I support him so let's not deflect here please. You can believe your own narrative as much as you want; my point, was that the Democratic Party could have and should have chosen better based on Biden's issues - and it would appear that those issues are not just cognitively related as he now faces sexual assault claims.


President Trump would eat him alive in a debate.
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Yes, they seem to be on equal footing....

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

the primaries showed to me that the democrat party, which is a centre to centre right party for sure, and their donor base, would rather trump win, would therefore rather give trump another scotus pick, than have bernie sanders showing the masses what they can have if they fight for it.

I honestly think that yes while bernie might not have won the nomination even in a fair fight, who knows, his campaign was sabotaged from within and without by people who have faaar more in common with republicans than with Bernie's base. most of the democrats have pretty much everything in common in fact with the republicans, except the crazy Christian stuff. I think bernie v trump in fair fight with fair media coverage would be the fight of the century while otoh I think biden will get murdered because as well as being just ing awful he's an old school patrician nob and so will always hesitate when trump calls his lies out one by one, whereas trump doesn't even blink.

anyway, to the democrat party donor class who lets not forget have got richer and more powerful than ever under trump, i dont think biden's job was to beat trump necessarily but to beat bernie and stop social democratic ideas getting traction. I mean, the democrat party pushed voters out into the plague to wrap things up in the primary and people will have certainly died from this (stats went up in these states after voting!) which is really bad; this at the same time that the plague was revealing the stark fault lines in American society, the sort of stuff bernie was thumping about.

if you ask me, bernie could beat trump in a fair fight with say fair media coverage. biden's gonna get mauled in the debates.
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Joe Biden is clearly dealing with cognitive issues, let's not make this harder than it needs to be.
So does Trump. But he's a showman and will know to hide it and make everything "entertaining" and apparently this is what people are in there for one reason or another.....
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So does Trump. But he's a showman and will know to hide it and make everything "entertaining" and apparently this is what people are in there for one reason or another.....
More like the poor souls that feel like no body represents or speaks out for em in Washington. These are the ones that see salvation in Trump.
Problem is, few in Washington, especially including the current White House clan, actually represent the real interests of the American people.
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Trump boasted about pussy-grabbing before his election. Same applies to everything he said during his campaign.

What are double standards?

And what about the recent rape allegations against Biden? Do allegations only count when they target Trump?
Not sure what your point is. Yes, they're both senile and are accused of all sorts. Part of the campaign.

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So when Trump says something stupid it is turned into a lie that's used as a frontpage headline.

However when Biden says something similarly stupid that can easily seen as racist it's ... a complete nonevent.

Why am I not surprised.

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I'm not criticising you personally, Pancakes, the quote just makes it clear what my post is about. My post targets the MSM, their misreporting, their lies, and those who defend them and apparently find their lies perfectly Ok.
Biden is also criticised. Again, your point being...?

You target the MSN? What about Fox News?
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the primaries showed to me that the democrat party, which is a centre to centre right party for sure, and their donor base, would rather trump win, would therefore rather give trump another scotus pick, than have bernie sanders showing the masses what they can have if they fight for it.

I honestly think that yes while bernie might not have won the nomination even in a fair fight, who knows, his campaign was sabotaged from within and without by people who have faaar more in common with republicans than with Bernie's base. most of the democrats have pretty much everything in common in fact with the republicans, except the crazy Christian stuff. I think bernie v trump in fair fight with fair media coverage would be the fight of the century while otoh I think biden will get murdered because as well as being just ing awful he's an old school patrician nob and so will always hesitate when trump calls his lies out one by one, whereas trump doesn't even blink.

anyway, to the democrat party donor class who lets not forget have got richer and more powerful than ever under trump, i dont think biden's job was to beat trump necessarily but to beat bernie and stop social democratic ideas getting traction. I mean, the democrat party pushed voters out into the plague to wrap things up in the primary and people will have certainly died from this (stats went up in these states after voting!) which is really bad; this at the same time that the plague was revealing the stark fault lines in American society, the sort of stuff bernie was thumping about.

if you ask me, bernie could beat trump in a fair fight with say fair media coverage. biden's gonna get mauled in the debates.
I think on the contrary that Bernie was set up to run against Hillary because at the time it looked as if Hillary would have it easy to defeat him , but it would look as if she won a fair fight and as if she wasn’t set up to be the only candidate .

But contrary to expectations , Bernie rose above his usual standard and started getting real traction and they struggled to get the genie back into the bottle . Having tasted blood they couldn’t stop him trying again this time round. He will probably be back in 4 years time. Biden on the other hand is the Obama / Clinton candidate. Well, less malicious than Clinton. Which is maybe why some of his gaffes actually work out in his favour. People went for somebody they knew rather than somebody who wanted to do something new .
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More like the poor souls that feel like no body represents or speaks out for em in Washington. These are the ones that see salvation in Trump.
Problem is, few in Washington, especially including the current White House clan, actually represent the real interests of the American people.
Ahh, but then people would have to ask themselves what their real interests are:
healthcare, education, investment in research....no?
And they choose Trump because somehow he ticks all these boxes?
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So does Trump. But he's a showman and will know to hide it and make everything "entertaining" and apparently this is what people are in there for one reason or another.....

Can you give an example of Trump's cognitive issues?
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Can you give an example of Trump's cognitive issues?

There are some videos on the net, I think I already posted one. He's also doing the stuff Biden is accused of, using the wrong words, finding words with difficulty, memory slips.

Plus he's suspected of things more serious (imo) than simple "cognitive issues" - personality disorders etc.


Btw: I don't think that trying to asses which one is more senile than the other or which one is the biggest sexual predator should be the final electoral debates.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

No credible psychiatrist (since the diagnosis posted here is psychiatric) will issue a diagnosis based on: tweets, TV interviews, you tube bits and political campaign snippets that he saw a footage of.

This is where the problem is. People accuse Trump (Biden, whoever suits.... Trump supporters as it has been voiced here many times) of being anything but mentally healthy.

There is a very big leap that some conveniently forget, from an opinion/assumption and a real clinical diagnosis.

I guess it empowers people to think that their opinion on other people's mental health is relevant in a debate over political progress. I think it matters we voice opinions here but in the grand scheme of political progress, let's not forget that online assumptions on people's mental health state will most probably not have an impact on votes or political development.
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Can you give an example of Trump's cognitive issues?
I really don't think you can point to any specific cognitive issues. That is until he opens his mouth, or his twitter account.
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