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Old 01.05.2020, 23:25
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Melanie vs Michelle
Maybe that will be the next phase in American politics -- First Lady mud wrestling.

Keeping it classy!
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Old 01.05.2020, 23:29
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Those silly Trump-supporters, they're like zealots who simply refuse to see any shortcomings in their preferred candidate.
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Melania is not a natural born US citizen and I think Michele has better things to do with her time.
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Ahh, but then people would have to ask themselves what their real interests are:
healthcare, education, investment in research....no?
And they choose Trump because somehow he ticks all these boxes?
Like a true republican, or should I say Trumper, he is trying to live up to their expectations of making America great again by:
  • Beefing up the military
  • Reducing taxes (even if it's only for now)
  • Reducing the government's expensive infrastructure
  • Giving the green light to business to ignore all rules by getting rid of the rules
  • Putting an end to immigration so that good old boy's can work again.
Believe it or not, these are the same interests of many many Americans.
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Old 02.05.2020, 11:33
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Those silly Trump-supporters, they're like zealots who simply refuse to see any shortcomings in their preferred candidate.
Indeed. One of your most reasonable posts. Probably sarcasm tho.........
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Old 02.05.2020, 12:40
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Like a true republican, or should I say Trumper, he is trying to live up to their expectations of making America great again by:
  • Beefing up the military
  • Reducing taxes (even if it's only for now)
  • Reducing the government's expensive infrastructure
  • Giving the green light to business to ignore all rules by getting rid of the rules
  • Putting an end to immigration so that good old boy's can work again.
Believe it or not, these are the same interests of many many Americans.
It's interesting that they want the military to be "beefed up" and yet as little money as possible spent on the country's own infrastructure.
Also interesting that they try to blame immigration for a lack of jobs rather than automation and the fact that it's companies who are outsourcing their jobs to other countries for cheaper labour.
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Old 02.05.2020, 12:46
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting opinion piece today that makes several valid points, criticizing both parties. Most notably

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...The problem with all of this politicking is that the American people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. There are currently no choices for president that have not been accused of sexual assault, and apparently no party can be consistently relied upon to stand up for its stated principles...
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/case-...151442592.html
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It's interesting that they want the military to be "beefed up" and yet as little money as possible spent on the country's own infrastructure.
Also interesting that they try to blame immigration for a lack of jobs rather than automation and the fact that it's companies who are outsourcing their jobs to other countries for cheaper labour.
You forgot the old or the young boys don't want to work
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Indeed. One of your most reasonable posts. Probably sarcasm tho.........
Anyone looking at it objectively can see it. Trump supporters are willing to overlook his mental issues, the sexual assault allegations...they even make feeble excuses for his racist remarks.
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Old 02.05.2020, 15:07
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Anyone looking at it objectively can see it. Trump supporters are willing to overlook his mental issues, the sexual assault allegations...they even make feeble excuses for his racist remarks.
Even more 'interesting' is that Trump supporters are now trying to accuse Biden of the same exact things that Trump has been accused of. How strangely coincidental.
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Old 02.05.2020, 15:11
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Even more 'interesting' is that Trump supporters are now trying to accuse Biden of the same exact things that Trump has been accused of. How strangely coincidental.
From the article I linked above:
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...The script has been flipped for everyone, Democrats and Republicans. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, who was so very intent on getting Brett Kavanaugh confirmed as a Supreme Court justice, although assault allegations from his past arose in 2018 during his Senate confirmation hearings, is suddenly interested in the integrity of government officials, saying the Reade allegations must be investigated...
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Even more 'interesting' is that Trump supporters are now trying to accuse Biden of the same exact things that Trump has been accused of. How strangely coincidental.
Oh, but it's classic warfare.
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Old 02.05.2020, 15:33
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Projection: A Gaslighter's Signature Technique
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephan.../#5cc2f063514e

"Why do gaslighters/narcissists project? In part, it distracts from their own bad behaviors. A gaslighter/narcissist's goal is to make you question your own reality and keep you off kilter. By accusing you of the very thing he is doing, the gaslighter/narcissist makes you frantically try to defend your innocence. Meanwhile, he is doing whatever he pleases. He has bought himself some time, while you are trying to prove you didn't do something. He has set you up to lose.

What do you do when a gaslighter/narcissist is projecting their own behaviors on to you? First, acknowledge to yourself that just because the gaslighter/narcissist accuses you of a behavior does not make it true. Do not give the gaslighter/narcissist that power. Next, be as nonresponsive to the gaslighter/narcissist's accusations as possible. Because they want a fight - and you are denying them that opportunity. Don't give a gaslighter the satisfaction of a reaction."
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Kanye West would be a worthy successor.


He already had a good start in the White House

He might be the only person in the world with a bigger ego than Trump. He's not quite as much of a knobstick but I suspect that's purely a matter of time.
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Even more 'interesting' is that Trump supporters are now trying to accuse Biden of the same exact things that Trump has been accused of. How strangely coincidental.
Exactly.

I think it also shows just how far the Republican party has fallen that their supporters are willing to overlook such accusations.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think that anyone who has ever taken a basic Psych 101 course would know what Trump, the GOP and the right-wing media are doing. "Divide and conquer." They desperately want these sexual allegations against Biden to divide Democrats and are desperately trying to shift the focus away from Trump's own behavior and problems and put that focus on Biden.

It's lame and pathetic. And there is only one way to deal with crazy people... Ignore them. I think that's exactly what Biden was trying to do for a long time and why he took a while to make a formal statement in regard to the allegations.

Trump is his own worst enemy. He's made it repeatedly clear what low levels he's willing to stoop to to get re-elected. He was already impeached for one of them.
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I think that anyone who has ever taken a basic Psych 101 course would know what Trump, the GOP and the right-wing media are doing. "Divide and conquer." They desperately want these sexual allegations against Biden to divide Democrats and are desperately trying to shift the focus away from Trump's own behavior and problems and put that focus on Biden.

It's lame and pathetic. And there is only one way to deal with crazy people... Ignore them. I think that's exactly what Biden was trying to do for a long time and why he took a while to make a formal statement in regard to the allegations.
This.

I don't care how many women Biden supposedly assaulted, clearly the GOP are just trying to weaponise the allegations. I agree we need to just ignore them like Biden was trying to do.
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This.

I don't care how many women Biden supposedly assaulted, clearly the GOP are just trying to weaponise the allegations. I agree we need to just ignore them like Biden was trying to do.
That's your fourth attempt; that's some dogged trolling. Respect.

Or has your account been hacked?
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Why do you keep deflecting and bringing up Trump? I could give a toss about Trump yet you keep bringing him into the discussion regarding Biden's current mental state. Again is this the best the Democratic Party could do? There were other capable candidates who were much younger and far more articulate (Gabbard, Yang).

Bernie Sanders is 78 years old and while I don't really agree with his politics, he is a year older than Biden and comes across as far more cogent and capable.
Well, Trump is kinda of our hero on this thread.

I think you are right about the Dem candidates, there are defo better people out there who wouldn't make it too far though. People can rarely dissociate the message from the messenger - so not really realistic to propose women, gays, etc There's also the Metoo movement which is not really helping here imho. People want to keep their privileges. To some very conservative souls all of these are very threatening.

I think they went with whom(ever) appeared to counter-balance Trump somehow. And there's also that gerontocracy and party hierarchies and politics within politics so to speak.
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Interesting opinion piece today that makes several valid points, criticizing both parties. Most notably

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/case-...151442592.html
I am so old that I remember when candidates just campaigned on their policies.

Interesting claim today that the Obama camp thoroughly vetted Biden before offering him the VP role and in the course of that they found no formal Senate complaints against him in the official record or any other allegations.

It is surprising that the lady involved did not try to sabotage Biden's VP role with her allegation.
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