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Another one is not ready to leave the Trump administration quietly.
It seems like there is a country which has taken active steps to suppress the revelation of politically unpalatable truths and criticism of its handling of the developing emergency by putting its medical profession under pressure to conspire to talk down the gravity of the situation.
I'm shocked!
#TrumpMisledVirusSpread

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Old 06.05.2020, 09:02
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I always thought progressive values / metoo was more the Democrat kind of thing so I would expect them to hold themselves to their own standards.
Still moaning about this, why not start a new thread instead of leading this one off-topic?

What we have now is a zero-sum game where absolutely no one wins, in part because most people weighing in at the moment don’t actually care about transforming a culture of sexual violence and comment because it has the potential to be politically expedient - with no real regard for the survivor.
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Old 06.05.2020, 10:14
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What we have now is a zero-sum game where absolutely no one wins, in part because most people weighing in at the moment don’t actually care about transforming a culture of sexual violence and comment because it has the potential to be politically expedient - with no real regard for the survivor.
That's exactly the point, a lot of the people/movements who pretend to care are only interested to attack people with politics they don't like. Same thing with most progressive values.
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Old 06.05.2020, 10:18
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That's exactly the point, a lot of the people/movements who pretend to care are only interested to attack people with politics they don't like. Same thing with most progressive values.
Aha! The truth comes out.
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Old 06.05.2020, 10:38
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That's exactly the point, a lot of the people/movements who pretend to care are only interested to attack people with politics they don't like. Same thing with most progressive values.
A lot, but not all. Some/most do care and rightly so. And then there are always the profiteers.....
This species thrives on pretty much everything - fascism included.

It's a pity the Metoo movement got compromised so quickly. Perhaps people who fight for a real change should find other ways.

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Like they do on EF?

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You mean - they talk about it that way?
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Still moaning about this, why not start a new thread instead of leading this one off-topic?

What we have now is a zero-sum game where absolutely no one wins, in part because most people weighing in at the moment don’t actually care about transforming a culture of sexual violence and comment because it has the potential to be politically expedient - with no real regard for the survivor.
The fact that Trump et.co are the least meritocratic crowd and not respecting their own self-declared values and political platform must be well hidden under ridiculous accusations of sexual misconduct.

What's not to like about Trump defenders? And they're persistent.
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Old 06.05.2020, 17:44
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It is all as clear as mud!
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo insisting questions remain over whether the novel coronavirus pandemic came from a Chinese lab.

Asked if the State Department had new intelligence supporting the “enormous evidence,” Pompeo responded by saying it is both true that the U.S. does not know if the virus came from the lab and that there is evidence.

“Those statements are both entirely consistent,” he said.
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Trump visited a mask manufacturing facility yesterday. He wore no mask.

The sound track for his visit included “live and let die” and “House of the rising sun”.

We live in interesting times.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...ccartney-wings
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Old 06.05.2020, 20:24
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The fact that Trump et.co are the least meritocratic crowd and not respecting their own self-declared values and political platform must be well hidden under ridiculous accusations of sexual misconduct.
I thought it was the Democrats who supported #metoo and espoused progressive values?

Ah that's right, it's only when it suits them.
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Old 06.05.2020, 21:31
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I thought it was the Democrats who supported #metoo and espoused progressive values?

Ah that's right, it's only when it suits them me.
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The Department of Justice has released a less redacted copy of a memo laying out the scope of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) after the Judiciary Committee chairman requested it.

The memo (no. 2 of 3), “The Scope of Investigation and Definition of Authority,” was sent on Aug. 2, 2017, to Mueller by Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general at the time.

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Likely to be a disappointment for President Donald Trump’s allies who claimed Mueller exceeded his authority?
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I thought it was the Democrats who supported #metoo and espoused progressive values?

Ah that's right, it's only when it suits them.
Maybe you should read more about Metoo. It isn't a "Democrats" creation and it doesn't equal feminism. I don't know if they support it or not. Probably not....really?


Why do you think Reps. don't support "espoused progressive values"? Right, because you call them "progressive" and that's a carte blanche for denying that supporting women rights is anything but normalcy in this day and age.

Maybe you should read more about history of feminism in America too. It was the Reps. who supported the suffragette movement. It is possible to be a Rep.supporter and not a racist or anti-feminist.
Unfortunately the Rep. Party was hijacked by all sorts of weirdos....pro-gun nutters and the rest....climate change deniers, anti-abortionistc etc etc etc and they're the most vocal, influential and visible. A contact with normal people in America might change your opinions btw.

It turns out you have terrible prejudices against the Republican Party and their supporters.....
Hillary, is it you?


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Maybe you should read more about Metoo. It isn't a "Democrats" creation and it doesn't equal feminism. I don't know if they support it or not. Probably not....really?


Why do you think Reps. don't support "espoused progressive values"? Right, because you call them "progressive" and that's a carte blanche for denying that supporting women rights is anything but normalcy in this day and age.

Maybe you should read more about history of feminism in America too. It was the Reps. who supported the suffragette movement. It is possible to be a Rep.supporter and not a racist or anti-feminist.
Unfortunately the Rep. Party was hijacked by all sorts of weirdos....pro-gun nutters and the rest....climate change deniers, anti-abortionistc etc etc etc and they're the most vocal, influential and visible. A contact with normal people in America might change your opinions btw.

It turns out you have terrible prejudices against the Republican Party and their supporters.....
Hillary, is it you?
I appreciate the history lesson but I was referring to the present day, where the Democrats are generally regarded as being the more progressive party (when it suits them anyway )
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Trump visited a mask manufacturing facility yesterday. He wore no mask.

The sound track for his visit included “live and let die” and “House of the rising sun”.

We live in interesting times.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...ccartney-wings
But he did wear protective glasses. Guess he was trying to protect the non-orange areas on his face.
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I appreciate the history lesson but I was referring to the present day, where the Democrats are generally regarded as being the more progressive party (when it suits them anyway )
Actually very many Republicans want voters to "believe women" — as long as they're accusing Democrats.
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Actually very many Republicans want voters to "believe women" — as long as they're accusing Democrats.
Metoo, like many other things, was innitially a good idea but it became a political weapon and it's a pity.

But well, these are the times. It doesn't matter if accusations are true or justified, just spread the rumours because this is what will stick with the pubic.
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Metoo, like many other things, was innitially a good idea but it became a political weapon and it's a pity.
It's not a pity, it's hilarious and it's only getting better

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But well, these are the times. It doesn't matter if accusations are true or justified, just spread the rumours because this is what will stick with the pubic.
What, other than rumors, are unproven claims? The same applies whether they target Biden, Trump, Kavanaugh, or whoever.
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What, other than rumors, are unproven claims? The same applies whether they target Biden, Trump, Kavanaugh, or whoever.
The thing is victims (those who really are) cannot always "prove" their claims. Metoo sought justice exactly for the cases which, due to imbalances of power or the incidences being too old, were very difficult if not impossible to prove.

I don't know how many women found justice. But I think it might have helped to dispell the probably more- common-than-we-think perception that women are there to "grab".

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I Believe Tara Reade. I’m Voting for Joe Biden Anyway.
It's not hilarious, it only shows that many voters are sick of these scandals.
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