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I don't know how many women found justice. But I think it might have helped to dispell the probably more- common-than-we-think perception that women are there to "grab"
"We"? Is this Romania? Or US you are talking about? Or Switzerland, your professional and personal environment?

Lot of these claims go back a very long time, the US in the meantime has thankfully largely moved on, in my opinion and experience. Family, friends, people I know, places I lived and jobs I had there. I think the accute, alarmist tone is really fed by media, the only side benefiting from these scandals. It is not the victims nor the politicians who (despite needing and getting justice) who benefit. Media rack up ratings and revenues. There is very little true and quality investigative journalism going on by media.
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There is very little true and quality investigative journalism going on by media.

This is one of the biggest problems we have nowadays. Investigative reporting is extremely bad for your health. Best case scenario is you lose your job and silenced through gag orders. (Yours truley has two). Next comes the exploding cars, gone missing, etc and many are suicided.
I personally would rather be diagnosed with stage IV cancer than be labeled a whistleblower. Longer life expectancy.
But hey, let me link this corporate sponsered "trusted media" article to prove my opinions are right and yours are wrong. Civilians
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The thing is victims (those who really are) cannot always "prove" their claims. Metoo sought justice exactly for the cases which, due to imbalances of power or the incidences being too old, were very difficult if not impossible to prove.
Agreed, and yes it's a problem. Obviously.

But you can't do away with one of the most important and basic legal principles (innocent until proven guilty) just because you don't like the consequences in a relatively few cases.

Louis cK for instance didn't attack anybody, in fact he followed "Yes means Yes" to the letter but still he's guilty in the eyes of the hysteric feminist mob, who felt justified to destroy his economic existence, just because they could and because he's a man. Cases like this show that justice doesn't even come into play anymore.

It's the same with modern feminism btw, another movement that has jumped the shark quite some time ago.
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You don't fight injustice with injustice. All that demonstrates is double standards and egotism of the purest kind.
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Neither women nor men should be "just out to grab". What we need is equal rights for all.

Anecdote, from the time when Metoo started. A woman I know met a man around that time. Just before they had sex the first time, he asked her to put her consent in writing. She cried out: "What? Are you crazy?" He replied, quietly: "No, just scared." And she said: "You're right. No-one should ever need to be scared of being raped, nor of being falsely accused. Give me a piece of paper and a pen." And she sat down, there and then, and wrote him what started out as a letter of consent, and quickly became a love-letter, saying how she felt about him, and what she wanted to do with him. He still has that letter, and they are still together.
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Neither women nor men should be "just out to grab". What we need is equal rights for all.

Anecdote, from the time when Metoo started. A woman I know met a man around that time. Just before they had sex the first time, he asked her to put her consent in writing. She cried out: "What? Are you crazy?" He replied, quietly: "No, just scared." And she said: "You're right. No-one should ever need to be scared of being raped, nor of being falsely accused. Give me a piece of paper and a pen." And she sat down, there and then, and wrote him what started out as a letter of consent, and quickly became a love-letter, saying how she felt about him, and what she wanted to do with him. He still has that letter, and they are still together.
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"We"? Is this Romania? Or US you are talking about? Or Switzerland, your professional and personal environment?

Lot of these claims go back a very long time, the US in the meantime has thankfully largely moved on, in my opinion and experience. Family, friends, people I know, places I lived and jobs I had there. I think the accute, alarmist tone is really fed by media, the only side benefiting from these scandals. It is not the victims nor the politicians who (despite needing and getting justice) who benefit. Media rack up ratings and revenues. There is very little true and quality investigative journalism going on by media.
"We" as we on EF, obviously? In reference to the USA, as the thread's title suggests? And the sexual scandals that get - quite frequently - mentioned not only on EF, but in the international press too? And the discussion from which you took that phrase? These were actually not questions but answers. You complained about making it personal somewhere in the thread and now you come across as aggressive, but I might be wrong on that.

I'll engage with you anyway though but I don't like your tone. I think you are committed to misunderstand some people here. I haven't heard of this sort of scandals elsewhere tbh. Politicians accused of sexual misconduct or even assaults that frequently. And not only politicians, you see the Hollywood avalanche too. Did they start "Metoo" movement in the USA for no reasons? I doubt. I don't know about quality journalism, I am sure the press is exaggerating or is presenting whatever they want.

Back home politicians get accused of corruption, probably like in your native Czechia. The fight against corruption became political too, but hey ho.

I expect the justice system to function in these cases, not the press. The press will report things and people will have an opinion on it.
Don't give the press more power than that. We (again, as in "we" on EF) complain about the alarmist media but kinda of give them more credit than they ever earned or should earn. They investigate, fine. It's the institutions that should do their job, not them. They should only report. I'm glad that we (we as in "we in Switzerland") don't have the alarmist kind of media and there's no real need for that too.

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Neither women nor men should be "just out to grab". What we need is equal rights for all.

Anecdote, from the time when Metoo started. A woman I know met a man around that time. Just before they had sex the first time, he asked her to put her consent in writing. She cried out: "What? Are you crazy?" He replied, quietly: "No, just scared." And she said: "You're right. No-one should ever need to be scared of being raped, nor of being falsely accused. Give me a piece of paper and a pen." And she sat down, there and then, and wrote him what started out as a letter of consent, and quickly became a love-letter, saying how she felt about him, and what she wanted to do with him. He still has that letter, and they are still together.

That's sad. I mean, both the fear of rape or of being falsely accused. I was never afraid of being raped, neither in my personal relations (dates etc) nor in my professional environment. However, I always avoided dubious places and situations.
I think women can do a lot to protect themselves too. And I also think the justice system should be encouraging women to come forward with their complaints. The media shouldn't do their job.

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Dr. Rick Bright, the ousted director of the office involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine, formally filed an extensive whistleblower complaint Tuesday alleging his early warnings about the coronavirus were ignored and that his caution at a treatment [hydroxychloroquine] favored by President Donald Trump led to his removal.
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Another one is not ready to leave the Trump administration quietly.
So what next?
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A federal watchdog said it has found “reasonable grounds” to believe that the Trump administration retaliated against a top public health official who says he was ousted after raising alarms about an unverified coronavirus treatment, his lawyers said Friday.

Attorneys for Rick Bright, former head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), said the Office of Special Counsel determined that the Department of Health and Human Services “violated the Whistleblower Protection Act by removing Dr. Bright from his position because he made protected disclosures in the best interest of the American public.”
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Looks like another federal watchdog will get fired
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Invisible enemy getting closer to Trump in the White House
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One of the president’s personal valets tested positive on Thursday after exhibiting symptoms of coronavirus on Wednesday.

Trump appeared to confirm today another infected individual was Katie Miller, the vice president’s press secretary and the wife of senior White House adviser Stephen Miller.
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They are probably too frightened of Trump to take proper precautions when near him as he, himself, does not wear a mask.

Seems White House people are getting tested daily which seems rather unfair?
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Meanwhile, total nonfarm payroll employment fell by 20.5 million in April, and the unemployment rate rose to 14.7 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.

This is the biggest fall since the 1929 recession. Trump's hopes of quickly restarting the economy are likely to be disappointed since social distancing will remain and so many businesses like airlines, restaurants will, at best, only be able to generate a fraction of their former revenues.
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Louis cK for instance didn't attack anybody, in fact he followed "Yes means Yes" to the letter but still he's guilty in the eyes of the hysteric feminist mob, who felt justified to destroy his economic existence, just because they could and because he's a man. Cases like this show that justice doesn't even come into play anymore.

It's the same with modern feminism btw, another movement that has jumped the shark quite some time ago.

You don't fight injustice with injustice. All that demonstrates is double standards and egotism of the purest kind.
You as in "one doesn't fight injustice with injustice" I suppose. Sorry I'm a bit pedantic, I see it's the norm here when it suits.

I agree. I haven't suggested this anywhere in this thread or the forum, really. Again, I expect the justice system, police, other institutions to function and to function well. No-one is above the law and all that jazz.

As for modern feminism, I don't know, it is different from country to country. In some places women can be offended by men opening the door for them or letting them go ahead first...so yeah, it's all relative.

Trump's wife was criticised for showing more skin than necessary. Back home the first-lady was criticised for her passion for mini-skirts (above the knees) but then they looked at Ms. Macron and concluded that "ours" is decent. See, all relative.
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Meanwhile, total nonfarm payroll employment fell by 20.5 million in April, and the unemployment rate rose to 14.7 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.
The numbers are misleading. With 30 million+ who have filed for unemployment, and 5-10 million more who haven't been able to sign up for various reasons, out of an estimated 165 million workforce, the 14.7% is a stretch of the truth.

20.5 million 'jobs' were lost in April, but there were many more people made unemployed. Ex: A restaurant worker who is now out of work indefinitely but whose 'job' has not been officially removed from the gov. tally. (In the same way that unfilled positions are counted as 'jobs')

The actual number is likely 30%+. Even the 'real unemployment rate' in the link below doesn't factor in people who have already applied but not yet been accepted, those in circumstances where they are ineligible to apply but nonetheless now unemployed, etc etc.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-t...t-rate-3306198

And on top of all of that, there are also millions who are not unemployed but have had their hours severely reduced or taken pay cuts.
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Is anyone else thinking that Trump's success (or lack thereof) in elections will be strongly influenced by how America gets out of this crisis (if)?

Like in other countries too, of course.
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Is anyone else thinking that Trump's success (or lack thereof) in elections will be strongly influenced by how America gets out of this crisis (if)?

Like in other countries too, of course.
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Former President Barack Obama delivered a blistering critique of the Trump administration's response to the coronavirus crisis, describing it as "an absolute chaotic disaster" during a private call Friday night with people who worked for him in the White House and across his administration.
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According to the polls, there are a lot of people who strongly disapprove of Trump. Trump's campaign is unlikely to win them over so his best strategy will be to attack Biden and reduce his support. Most polls show Biden only around 6+% ahead of Trump so that means Trump does not have to turn a lot of people against Biden.

Obama has promised to campaign for Biden which will be interesting.

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LOL! The usual gerrymandering complaint is about people being inhibited from voting.
Now Trump is complaining about an extra voting booth being opened
This is in a town where the next voting booth was 9 miles away.

The "all mail-in ballot" system is planned for November, not now.

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Governor @GavinNewsom of California won’t let restaurants, beaches and stores open, but he installs a voting both system in a highly Democrat area (supposed to be mail in ballots only) because our great candidate, @MikeGarcia2020 , is winning by a lot.
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According to the polls, there are a lot of people who strongly disapprove of Trump. Trump's campaign is unlikely to win them over so his best strategy will be to attack Biden and reduce his support. Most polls show Biden only around 6+% ahead of Trump so that means Trump does not have to turn a lot of people against Biden.

Obama has promised to campaign for Biden which will be interesting.
Was Biden caught saying "Grab them by the pussy" too?

Any self-incriminatory conversation at all? I didn't follow this case, neither Trump's tbh. But this sentence stuck. It's quite revelatory about Trump's personality and way of dealing with women. That is not to say he really raped someone. I wouldn't know that.


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Probably those who defend him here so fiercely find it acceptable.

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LOL! The usual gerrymandering complaint is about people being inhibited from voting.
Now Trump is complaining about an extra voting booth being opened
This is in a town where the next voting booth was 9 miles away.

The "all mail-in ballot" system is planned for November, not now.
Well, Trump has already stated that he's anti-democracy, because (his words) with true democracy, the Republican party would never ever win any election again. So yes, I think it's just fair to say that the Republican party is against the democratic system where everyone gets a fair vote. Or a vote at all.
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We are getting great marks for the handling of the CoronaVirus pandemic, especially the very early BAN of people from China, the infectious source, entering the USA.
Compare that to the Obama/Sleepy Joe disaster known as H1N1 Swine Flu.
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H1N1 Swine Flu, 12,500 deaths, thriving economy
COVID-19, 80,000+ deaths, collapsed economy.
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We live in interesting times, the fuss about the motion to dismiss charges against ex-general Flynn is not going to go away soon.

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In the motion to dismiss the case against Flynn on Thursday, Barr and acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Timothy Shea cited an interview in 2017 with former acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security Mary McCord more than two dozen times to suggest that the FBI's interview with Flynn was unwarranted.

Only problem is McCord has written an op-ed for The New York Times on Sunday accusing the department of twisting her words.

"The account of my interview in 2017 doesn’t help the department support this conclusion, and it is disingenuous for the department to twist my words to suggest that it does."
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How stupid can Barr be to quote McCord so much in a legal document without checking with her first?
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Roger Stone will be next?
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The top prosecutor of Roger Stone -- who quit the Justice Department when his superiors overruled his team's work on the case before Stone's sentencing -- slammed Attorney General William Barr for influencing cases against President Donald Trump's friends and accused him of undermining the integrity of the department, in a Washington Post op-ed published Monday.

"I am convinced that the department's conduct in the Stone and Flynn cases will do lasting damage to the institution," he added.
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Surprising that Trump who always considers political impacts above everything believes the positive effect for his base will override the impression of legal favouritism.

Meanwhile;
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New coronavirus hot spots are emerging in rural and non-metropolitan counties across the country, including many states that are taking steps to slowly reopen their economies after weeks of stay-at-home orders.
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Reopening needs to be handled very carefully but unfortunately is likely to be driven by political thinking, not medical reasoning.

Edit; Mainly due to the reopening a model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington now forecasts more than 137,000 Americans will die by early August, up from its previous forecast of 134,000 deaths.
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What's more damaging is the long-term effect this will have on the government structure. If this Justice Dept, Supreme Court, etc. simply rubber-stamp everything Trump wants, the next president (D or R) will see nothing wrong with the same pattern and use this administration's moves as justification for further power grabs. It sets a dangerous and divisive precedent.

It's an honest question any official in this administration should consider - would you support/take the same action if the current president was a Democrat? I kind of doubt it.
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