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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

There are some threads about Putin, Kim Jong-un, Erdogan, Merkel, I think even Macron, but they're not as spicy as this one.
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Old 19.05.2020, 21:31
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There are some threads about Putin, Kim Jong-un, Erdogan, Merkel, I think even Macron, but they're not as spicy as this one.
Stop posting facts, it just confuses people

Then there are Corbyn & Starmer, Edward Heath, Misharref, Prince Harry(OK maybe not a statesman?), Prince Andrew not spicy? (OK maybe also not a statesman?).

But sure, more threads about statemen always welcome in my small corner
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There are some threads about Putin, Kim Jong-un, Erdogan, Merkel, I think even Macron, but they're not as spicy as this one.

They're nothing. They didn't even appear in Home Alone.
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Rep. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.) revealed that he and his entire family are taking the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine “prophylactically” to ward off the coronavirus despite limited evidence from the medical community.
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Bizarre, surreal, or what

The snake oil salesman cometh
An analysis of "is Trump really taking this" and "why would he".

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A federal judge on Monday allowed a federal lawsuit accusing President Donald Trump, his three eldest children, and his company of collaborating with a fraudulent marketing scheme to prey on the poor and vulnerable to proceed, denying the Trumps' request for a stay.

The judge said, "a strong likelihood that Defendants will not succeed on appeal".
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No doubt will be settled "out of court" for a few million?

Trump seems determined to wipe out his supporters
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Trump at a Cabinet meeting lambasted a United States Department of Veterans Affairs study that had found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine in a group of veterans with the coronavirus who were given the drug.
He called it a "phony study" and said it was done by "obviously not friends of the administration" who wanted to "make political points."
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Trump is following his usual playbook of doubling down on points where he is criticised. While this often works for him in business and politics, in health matters he risks causing multiple deaths (which he will blame on others).

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Pelosi: " Trump is morbidly obese "
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Pelosi: " Trump is morbidly obese "
Yeah, not really "morbidly" I think......but well, if he's telling stories about taking hydroxychloroquine to ward off the coronavirus....
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Seems Trump is running scared of letting people vote. Illegally threatening to withhold funds from Michigan and Nevada if they dare to enable postal votes to enable people to vote in Coronavirus times. This by mailing a postal vote request form to all voters and not - as Trump lied - mailing actual voting forms.

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1) Lies (that’s not what MI is doing);

2) Asserts without support that someone else is breaking the law;

3) Threatens action that would itself be unconstitutional; &

4) All in service of an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory about voter fraud.
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Breaking: Michigan sends absentee ballots to 7.7 million people ahead of Primaries and the General Election. This was done illegally and without authorization by a rogue Secretary of State. I will ask to hold up funding to Michigan if they want to go down this Voter Fraud path!..
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-ballot-plans
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Re Nancy Pelosi- was it 'fat shaming' or stating that being overweight has proven to cause issues with chloroquine- and Covid?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I don’t understand what he is worried about. Making it easier to vote simply makes it easier to vote be it Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Devout, Agnostics, etc.

His base, which is decidedly at high risk from viruses, would love an opportunity to not stand in queues (sorry, lines) come judgement day.

The UDC doesn’t oppose postal ballots!
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Old 20.05.2020, 21:23
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Re Nancy Pelosi- was it 'fat shaming' or stating that being overweight has proven to cause issues with chloroquine- and Covid?
I'll go with Trump shaming, because he is overweight and it's not necessarily the best idea for him to take it. It's an even worse idea for him to promote it to the general public as some magical cure or even preventative.
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I'll go with Trump shaming, because he is overweight and it's not necessarily the best idea for him to take it. It's an even worse idea for him to promote it to the general public as some magical cure or even preventative.
He doesn't. He's not stupid. People like him have other possibilities, in case they need medical care. I heard the treatment with convalescent plasma (plus of course other stuff) is the most effective....

However, it is irresponsible to promote it the way he does. And disingenuous.
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I don’t understand what he is worried about. Making it easier to vote simply makes it easier to vote be it Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Devout, Agnostics, etc.

His base, which is decidedly at high risk from viruses, would love an opportunity to not stand in queues (sorry, lines) come judgement day.

The UDC doesn’t oppose postal ballots!
Possibly you missed...:

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Old 20.05.2020, 21:52
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I don’t understand what he is worried about. Making it easier to vote simply makes it easier to vote be it Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Devout, Agnostics, etc.

His base, which is decidedly at high risk from viruses, would love an opportunity to not stand in queues (sorry, lines) come judgement day.

The UDC doesn’t oppose postal ballots!
Well the GOP has made a science of gerrymandering and similar actions that have made it difficult for Democratic voters to vote.
Avoiding locating polling booths in such areas or a long way from public transport, etc. so mail-in voting will benefit these voters.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump is becoming increasingly paranoid and delusional. I think he sees himself going down in the polls, and it's driving him insane (or rather, even more insane), because his ego can't handle the thought of losing. Apparently, his Twitter tantrums have been at an all-time high lately, as he is increasingly using it to make random attacks and completely unfounded accusations against people.

As for the use of Chloroquine, though... I've read a few studies that have actually found it to be somewhat effective in treating COVID-19 (e.g. lessening the severity of symptoms and/or the length of illness), including the following:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32173110/

What is unclear, though, is whether the benefits outweigh the risks.

Apparently, Switzerland has also been using it to treat COVID patients.

"Chloroquine: Why is Switzerland using this controversial drug to treat Covid-19 patients?"
https://www.thelocal.ch/20200414/chl...id-19-patients
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Old 20.05.2020, 22:58
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Trump is becoming increasingly paranoid and delusional. I think he sees himself going down in the polls, and it's driving him insane (or rather, even more insane), because his ego can't handle the thought of losing. Apparently, his Twitter tantrums have been at an all-time high lately, as he is increasingly using it to make random attacks and completely unfounded accusations against people.

As for the use of Chloroquine, though... I've read a few studies that have actually found it to be somewhat effective in treating COVID-19 (e.g. lessening the severity of symptoms and/or the length of illness), including the following:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32173110/

What is unclear, though, is whether the benefits outweigh the risks.

Apparently, Switzerland has also been using it to treat COVID patients.

"Chloroquine: Why is Switzerland using this controversial drug to treat Covid-19 patients?"
https://www.thelocal.ch/20200414/chl...id-19-patients
Sure but Trump claims he is using Chloroquine as a prophylactic which use is less well supported in the literature.

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The American College of Physicians (ACP) says that evidence does not support the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination with azithromycin to prevent COVID-19 after infection with novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2), or for treatment of patients with COVID-19.
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Sure but Trump claims he is using Chloroquine as a prophylactic which use is less well supported in the literature.



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I know. It doesn't make sense to me that he's using it to try to prevent contracting the virus, considering the risks and that it hasn't yet been proven that it can prevent the virus. But there are studies currently being done regarding how effective it is as a prophylactic, and there is some evidence that it can be effective, as mentioned here:

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr....CD013587/full

There is also currently a huge, international study being done:

International study to assess chloroquine to prevent Covid-19
https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/...roquine-study/
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather the president of the USA wasn't randomly trying medicines "just in case". He's probably the most tested man in the world right now, with tests every day or every few days. I cannot see how, for him, the potential benefit outweighs the risk. Unless we're talking financial benefit through his not-at-all-blind trusts.
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The reason that I think it’s fat shaming is that she’s resorting to the same negative insults based on appearance that he uses and she’s just mirroring his vile behavior.

And, she’s making a judgment that is very probably wrong.

I think he’s supposed to be 6’3 (1.90) meters. If he weighs 300 lbs, his BMI is 37.5, again not morbidly obese. (Morbid obesity is BMI 40). His weight is often given as 250 or so.

I think he’s a bag of gas, the worst president of my lifetime. But, he’s not morbidly obese and Nancy needs to do better.


He is overweight, but I will not support shaming anyone for body size - even this sack of shit. Too much other material.
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The reason that I think it’s fat shaming is that she’s resorting to the same negative insults based on appearance that he uses and she’s just mirroring his vile behavior.

And, she’s making a judgment that is very probably wrong.

I think he’s supposed to be 6’3 (1.90) meters. If he weighs 300 lbs, his BMI is 37.5, again not morbidly obese. (Morbid obesity is BMI 40). His weight is often given as 250 or so.

I think he’s a bag of gas, the worst president of my lifetime. But, he’s not morbidly obese and Nancy needs to do better.


He is overweight, but I will not support shaming anyone for body size - even this sack of shit. Too much other material.
This is a version of the argument that people criticising Trump should hold themselves to a higher standard, but Trump's vile behavior gets him the votes so how else are politicians to win over those voters?
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