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Old 29.06.2020, 14:36
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Absentee Ballots are fine. A person has to go through a process to get and use them.
Mail-In Voting, on the other hand, will lead to the most corrupt Election is USA history. Bad things happen with Mail-Ins.
Just look at Special Election in Patterson, N.J. 19% of Ballots a FRAUD!
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It would be more convincing if Trump could spell Paterson correctly.

The same process to get a mail-In ballot as for an absentee

There was no successful voting fraud in Paterson, they rejected 19% of the ballots and some of them were attempted fraud. The system works.

Another Supreme Court disappointment for Trump
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The Supreme Court on Monday struck down a Louisiana abortion law, handing a win to abortion rights advocates who feared the conservative court would break with past rulings to rein in protections that emerged from the landmark decision in Roe v. Wade.
Now Trump has retweeted a video of a couple in St Louis pointing guns at people exercising their legal right to peacefully protest.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1277526031935647744
Of course, he did not condemn them!

Not one of Spanky's best days today, after the Supreme Court supporting abortion again, remember he threw his toys out of the pram last month and tweeted
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I love the Great State of North Carolina, so much so that I insisted on having the Republican National Convention in Charlotte at the end of August. Unfortunately, Democrat Governor, @RoyCooperNC is still in Shutdown mood & unable to guarantee that by August we will be allowed......
So Donny moved the Convention to Jacksonville, Florida.
Jacksonville announced today it will be adopting a mandatory face mask requirement for public and indoor locations, according to a tweet from the city.
The order is expected to go into effect at 5 p.m. ET today.

Karma!

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Twitch, the video streaming service popular with online gamers, has suspended an account belonging to the Trump campaign, becoming the latest tech platform to take action against President Donald Trump.

In a statement provided to CNN, Twitch, which is owned by Amazon (AMZN), said that "hateful conduct is not allowed."
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Old 29.06.2020, 21:32
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think that maybe all Trump has to do now is Tweet in order to ensure that he's not re-elected.

The guy can find plenty of time for playing golf and persistently seeking attention on social media but can't manage to find the time to properly address the nation during one of the biggest crises America has ever faced.
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So now Arizona has the fastest growing number of new coronavirus cases in US; with 3,700 new cases yesterday versus a daily maximum 370 cases before the lockdown was stopped.

So the caring President organises a rally yesterday in Phoenix, Arizona packing a church with 3,000 young people - no masks or social distancing.

Source video, shows inside church after 7 seconds.
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Another Supreme Court disappointment for Trump


Now Trump has retweeted a video of a couple in St Louis pointing guns at people exercising their legal right to peacefully protest.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1277526031935647744
Of course, he did not condemn them!
Apparently very rightfully so.

The crowd had entered a gated community, what's behind that is private property. All protestors were trespassing, even on the sidewalk.

You have seen the burning buildings and the ~20 dead. A spark at the wrong time and anything can happen.
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The guy can find plenty of time for playing golf and persistently seeking attention on social media but can't manage to find the time to properly address the nation during one of the biggest crises America has ever faced.
Apparently he cannot find the time to consult his daily intelligence briefing. Particularly if it suggests Russia is doing naughty things. (Like paying third parties to kill US soldiers).
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Apparently very rightfully so.

The crowd had entered a gated community, what's behind that is private property. All protestors were trespassing, even on the sidewalk.

You have seen the burning buildings and the ~20 dead. A spark at the wrong time and anything can happen.
Apparently the peaceful protestors were on their way to the Mayor's house to protest which is why they were in the neighbourhood.
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Apparently the peaceful protestors were on their way to the Mayor's house to protest which is why they were in the neighbourhood.
That doesn't make their trespassing right. Nor the couple's action wrong.

Nonetheless Trump should have, according to you, condemned perfectly lawful action.

The only thing that could be more ludicrous is the demand for Trump to laud criminal actions and to support the trespassers.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I’m not certain that lawfully protesting an elected government official’s residence can be considered ‘trespass’. Locking yourself behind gates doesn’t get you an opt-out from the first amendment.
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President Trump's retweet of a video that included a demonstrator yelling “white power” during protests in Florida set off a “five-alarm fire” in the White House on Sunday, NBC News reported.

Two unidentified White House officials told the network that the video remained on the president’s Twitter feed for more than three hours because he could not be reached. Trump was reportedly at his Virginia golf club and put his phone down.
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That doesn't make their trespassing right. Nor the couple's action wrong.

Nonetheless Trump should have, according to you, condemned perfectly lawful action.

The only thing that could be more ludicrous is the demand for Trump to laud criminal actions and to support the trespassers.
In most US states, it is an offense to threaten to use a deadly weapon on another person.

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Under Section 571.030(4) of the Revised Statutes of Missouri, it is a crime when a person “[e]xhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner.” Such a person “commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons,” which is defined as a class E felony. Such felonies carry up to four years in prison, one year in jail, and/or a $10,000 fine–but are subject to probation.
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In most US states, it is an offense to threaten to use a deadly weapon on another person.



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Horsemanure.

(Open or concealed) carry laws dont' apply to private property. And even less to people who were informed that they're on private property and are ordered to leave immediately.

Next you're going to tell me that it was unlawful to aim at that burglar because he felt threatened.

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I’m not certain that lawfully protesting an elected government official’s residence can be considered ‘trespass’. Locking yourself behind gates doesn’t get you an opt-out from the first amendment.
The first amendment does not apply to citizen-citizen situations. Least of all on private property.

Breaking stuff is never peaceful.

They broke through a gate, were informed that they're on private property and ordered to leave immediately.

Case closed.

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That doesn't make their trespassing right. Nor the couple's action wrong.

Nonetheless Trump should have, according to you, condemned perfectly lawful action.

The only thing that could be more ludicrous is the demand for Trump to laud criminal actions and to support the trespassers.
So, according to you, would it be perfectly fine for someone in the US to point a loaded gun at a five-year old for walking on their lawn and threatening to shoot that child?

'Murica. Where people value property more than human life.

Those protestors were part of an organized protest. They were not threatening that couple or that couple's property in any way. Their reason for being there had nothing to do with that couple.

Paranoia is not a justified excuse for pointing loaded guns at people and threatening to shoot them.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Maybe not so lawful?

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The St. Louis city prosecutor is investigating a married couple who brandished weapons at Black Lives Matter protesters on Sunday as they marched toward Mayor Lyda Krewson's (D) house.

She added: "My office is currently working with the public and the police to investigate these events. Make no mistake: We will not tolerate the use of force against those exercising their First Amendment rights, and will use the full power of Missouri law to hold people accountable."
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So, according to you, would it be perfectly fine for someone in the US to point a loaded gun at a five-year old for walking on their lawn and threatening to shoot that child?

'Murica. Where people value property more than human life.

Those protestors were part of an organized protest. They were not threatening that couple or that couple's property in any way. Their reason for being there had nothing to do with that couple.

Paranoia is not a justified excuse for pointing loaded guns at people and threatening to shoot them.
It's completely irrelevant whether you agree to a given legal situation or not, it is what it is. Claiming to know better than what the nation at hand arrived at in a more or less democratic way is arrogance and self-aggrandisation in epic proportions.

Not sure how many 5yr-olds were there, but anyway:
Every parent who takes their child to a protest should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for intentionally and recklessly putting their child in harms way.

You're saying that some people's rights are more important than other people's rights.
That's the mindset of racism, which you so eloquently pretend to be against. So which is it?

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Maybe not so lawful?
If only people read what they link.

The couple is described as "victims" by the police, no force was used by them. However the gate got destroyed, clearly a use of force.

Also from your link:
"Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, told the Post-Dispatch that Missouri's Castle Doctrine makes what the McCloskeys did legal, albeit dangerous."
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"There's no right to protest on those streets," Walker explained. "The protesters thought they had a right to protest, but as a technical matter, they were not allowed to be there."
"It’s essentially a private estate. If anyone was violating the law, it was the protesters. In fact, if [the McCloskeys] have photos of the protesters, they could go after them for trespassing."

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Those protestors were part of an organized protest. They were not threatening that couple or that couple's property in any way. Their reason for being there had nothing to do with that couple.

I fully agree with your balanced post. The couple should have served tea and cake for this friendly group of boy scouts.
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Apparently he cannot find the time to consult his daily intelligence briefing. Particularly if it suggests Russia is doing naughty things. (Like paying third parties to kill US soldiers).
Apparently he cannot find the time to consult his intelligence
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Grandpaw getting confused again.
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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

She [Donna Brazile] gets fired by @CNN for giving Crooked Hillary the debate questions, and gets hired by @FoxNews

Where are you Roger Ailes?
Then half an hour later

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I know better than anyone that my friend Roger Ailes died 3 years ago, just look at what happened to @FoxNews
We all miss Roger!!!
Trump escalating his love of the Confederacy by encouraging the NYPD to start a civil war
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NYC is cutting Police $’s by ONE BILLION DOLLARS, and yet the @NYCMayor is going to paint a big, expensive, yellow Black Lives Matter sign on Fifth Avenue, denigrating this luxury Avenue.
This will further antagonize New York’s Finest, who LOVE New York & vividly remember the horrible BLM chant, “Pigs In A Blanket, Fry ‘Em Like Bacon”.
Maybe our GREAT Police, who have been neutralized and scorned by a mayor who hates & disrespects them, won’t let this symbol of hate be affixed to New York’s greatest street.

Spend this money fighting crime instead!
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Seems Spanky does not like the idea of this BLM mural in front of his tower.

Meanwhile a federal judge late Tuesday night struck down a Trump administration rule that banned most migrants from receiving asylum at the southern border with Mexico.

And finally from John Hopkins University.
Yesterday, the US reported 44,766 new confirmed COVID-19 cases and 1,277 deaths. But I see no tweets from Trump about how he will take a lead to stop this terrible death toll.

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As the mean age of infectees has dropped so has the death rate. Suppose this is as should be expected as fewer of the youngsters will die from other underlying causes.

But still, that is a very large number.
Deaths are a lagging indicator so better to wait some weeks to be sure what the death rate looks like.
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As the mean age of infectees has dropped so has the death rate. Suppose this is as should be expected as fewer of the youngsters will die from other underlying causes.

But still, that is a very large number.
This has got nothing to do with whether Trump will be a good president! Bout time the moderators did something
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Trump's "mission accomplished" message in tatters. Sources are reporting over 50,000 new cases yesterday, a US pandemic record. Deaths were not so high at around 700.

Meanwhile, Trump keeps posting anti-BLM protestors propaganda instead of leading the country against the virus.

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Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), the chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, is calling for the White House coronavirus task force to be disbanded to prevent health officials from causing President Trump's message about the economy to be "distorted."
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Many politicians, including Spanky, seem unable to grasp that the virus is not a political issue; they cannot spin it away.
If the US does not take extreme measures then they will have a major public health disaster, pretending the virus is going away will be overtaken by a tsunami of new cases and deaths.

Pretending the pandemic is not a major risk conflict with reality

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Former presidential candidate Herman Cain announced on Thursday that he has been hospitalized with Covid-19, almost two weeks after attending President Donald Trump’s rally in Tulsa, Okla.

Cain, briefly a frontrunner in the 2012 GOP presidential primary, tweeted a picture on June 20 of himself and others at Trump’s indoor rally.
“Here’s just a few of the #BlackVoicesForTrump at tonight’s rally! Having a fantastic time!” the caption read. No one in the picture was wearing a mask.

Cain has frequently downplayed the risk of Covid-19 on social media. As he was in the hospital Wednesday, Cain’s account tweeted approvingly of the lack of social distancing restrictions at Trump’s upcoming Mount Rushmore event.
“Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump,” Cain wrote on Twitter. “PEOPLE ARE FED UP!”

In Tulsa, the seven-day average of cases was 104.4 on July 1, an increase from 17.4 on June 1, according to figures from the Tulsa Health Department.
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