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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

And no social distancing in Rushmore?!
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/30/p...rus/index.html
South Dakota Republican Gov. Kristi Noem, who worked with the President and the Department of Interior to make the event happen, said Monday that social distancing will not be enforced at the "large event," though masks will be provided.
"In South Dakota, we've told people to focus on personal responsibility. Every one of them has the opportunity to make a decision that they are comfortable with. So we will be having celebrations of American independence, we will have a large event July 3," she said during an appearance on Fox News.
"We told those folks that have concerns that they can stay home, but those who want to come and join us, we'll be giving out free face masks if they choose to wear one," she said. "But we won't be social distancing, we're asking them to come, be ready to celebrate, to enjoy the freedoms and the liberties that we have in this country."
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Old 03.07.2020, 12:46
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And no social distancing in Rushmore?!
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/30/p...rus/index.html
South Dakota Republican Gov. Kristi Noem, who worked with the President and the Department of Interior to make the event happen, said Monday that social distancing will not be enforced at the "large event," though masks will be provided.
"In South Dakota, we've told people to focus on personal responsibility. Every one of them has the opportunity to make a decision that they are comfortable with. So we will be having celebrations of American independence, we will have a large event July 3," she said during an appearance on Fox News.
"We told those folks that have concerns that they can stay home, but those who want to come and join us, we'll be giving out free face masks if they choose to wear one," she said. "But we won't be social distancing, we're asking them to come, be ready to celebrate, to enjoy the freedoms and the liberties that we have in this country."
This is scary.
They do not seem to care anymore.
The latest from John Hopkins University; yesterday, the US reported 52,291 new confirmed cases and 635 deaths. Every day a new record number of cases.
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They do not seem to care anymore.
Pretty much this. There are still many people who are concerned and taking precautions, but they are vastly outnumbered by people who do not care any more. It seems the attitude now is along the lines of "we'll all die someday so I'm going to go have fun".
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...... the attitude now is along the lines of "we'll all die someday so I'm going to go have fun".
An attitude I fully support.

While Corona parties with a chance to win if infected first sounds more like a Russian roulette for weaklings. I don't see the fun in either of them but each to their own.
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Pretty much this. There are still many people who are concerned and taking precautions, but they are vastly outnumbered by people who do not care any more. It seems the attitude now is along the lines of "we'll all die someday so I'm going to go have fun".
It would be nice if we could just prevent people with the “devil may care” attitude from infecting unsuspecting others. Let them have their “fun” and keep their germs to themselves.
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An attitude I fully support.

While Corona parties with a chance to win if infected first sounds more like a Russian roulette for weaklings. I don't see the fun in either of them but each to their own.
That's exactly it: infection never is "each to their own".

That is the central reason for all preventative measures: infection includes spreading "their own" to a random number of others.
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It seems the attitude now is along the lines of "we'll all die someday so I'm going to go have fun".
And rightly so.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting proposal for a third party candidate dubbed "The Dark Horse Duo" from Brett Weinstein. He basically advocates for a "mixed" party ticket comprised of a moderate democrat (Andrew Yang) and a moderate republican (William McRaven).

This is an excerpt from Joe Rogan's interview with Weinstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b-U4e7_Qso

And here is a more detailed interview discussing his proposed plan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptrrDfDGzqs

If Weinstein manages to pull this off, I know how I will be voting!

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Interesting proposal for a third party candidate dubbed "The Day Horse Duo" from Brett Weinstein. He basically advocates for a "mixed" party ticket comprised of a moderate democrat (Andrew Yang) and a moderate republican (William McRaven).

This is an excerpt from Joe Rogan's interview with Weinstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b-U4e7_Qso

And here is a more detailed interview discussing his proposed plan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptrrDfDGzqs

If Weinstein manages to pull this off, I know how I will be voting!
Andrew Yang would be the wrong choice for such a ticket, IMO. He just doesn't have the appeal, outside of college-age kids.

It would be interested to see which party would haemorrhage votes more to that combined ticket. I suspect Republicans who could vote with a clear conscience might make up a large proportion of support for a Dem/Rep combined ticket.

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Andrew Yang would be the wrong choice for such a ticket, IMO. He just doesn't have the appeal, outside of college-age kids.

It would be interested to see which parry would haemorrhage votes more to that combined ticket. I suspect Republicans who could vote with a clear conscience might make up a large proportion of support for a Dem/Rep combined ticket.
Especially if the ticket has a "moderate" team. Note that Bret Weinstein has identified as a liberal in the classical sense. The liberal ideology being spouted in the US these days is a far cry from true liberalism to which he identified (watch the full Rogan podcast interview for Weinstein's thoughts on this). Likewise, the hard right conservatives do not speak for those who traditionally espoused conservative values/views as well.

It will be interesting to see how and if this new ticket develops... Something in the US political system needs to change here; neither Trump nor Biden are worthy candidates in my view. And, as Weinstein mentions, theses are unprecedented times.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Although I freely admit to knowing too little about Andrew Young, he does have in his favour - when compared to the current POTUS - that he can reply to a question asked of him by a journalist with properly constructed, coherent sentences in English, within which he can quote numbers and explain what he means by them, and he does this admirable trick without stumbling over his own tongue, mixing metaphors or losing the plot.
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Although I freely admit to knowing too little about Andrew Young, he does have in his favour - when compared to the current POTUS - that he can reply to a question asked of him by a journalist with properly constructed, coherent sentences in English, within which he can quote numbers and explain what he means by them, and he does this admirable trick without stumbling over his own tongue, mixing metaphors or losing the plot.
... as can every other candidate apart from Biden and Trump. It almost seems like bumbling incompetence and incoherence are prerequisites for the highest office in the land, these days.

It's a shame that "Christian" values are so widely (if shallowly) held in the US—Pete Buttigieg would make a superb moderate-centrist candidate. And he's the most eloquent of the lot. He could do with a bit more experience, though; a Senate seat could be a good next step for him, although without googling, I would guess that Indiana senators have long been very red.

ETA: I just googled. Indiana has sent the odd Democrat to the Senate but by and large, it's a Republican state. The next election for the Senate is in 2022.

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Interesting proposal for a third party candidate dubbed "The Day Horse Duo" from Brett Weinstein. He basically advocates for a "mixed" party ticket comprised of a moderate democrat (Andrew Yang) and a moderate republican (William McRaven).
It's not a totally new idea but I can understand the appeal. Ohio governor John Kasich (R) and Colorado governor John Hickenlooper (D) considered creating a unity ticket back in 2017.

The reasons why a unity ticket probably wouldn't work are still the same today though: https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/25/p...020/index.html

I'm not a fan of the 2-party system, and in particular how the allocation of Electoral College votes essentially relegates any noteworthy 3rd party candidate to the role of spoiler for one side or the other. See Ross Perot as the spoiler for Rs in 1992 and 1996, and Ralph Nader as spoiler for the Ds in 2000, for example.
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The Amis will be celebrating a second Independence Day on Tuesday, November 3, 2020 when Trump is unseated from his throne!
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The Amis will be celebrating a second Independence Day on Tuesday, November 3, 2020 when Trump is unseated from his throne!
Don’t count your chickens ...
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New China Virus Cases up (because of massive testing), deaths are down, “low and steady”.
The Fake News Media should report this and also, that new job numbers are setting records!
WTF are “low and steady” deaths?

Donny is just digging a pit, the huge number of hospitalisations will sadly lead to more deaths.
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The Amis will be celebrating a second Independence Day on Tuesday, November 3, 2020 when Trump is unseated from his throne!
Given the dearth of electable alternatives, I wouldn't bet on that, though Kanye West has thrown his hat into the ring.

And people complain about Melanija as FLOTUS, just immagine Kim Carcrashian as FLOTUS!

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Given the dearth of electable alternatives, I wouldn't bet on that, though Kanye West has thrown his hat into the ring.

And people complain about Melanija as FLOTUS, just immagine Kim Carcrashian as FLOTUS!

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Kanye?

The self-proclaimed "greatest living rockstar on the planet" who can't even hit the pitch?

I bet after this performance Kanye wished he'd never been born (the debacle starts ~55sec into the clip).
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Given the dearth of electable alternatives, I wouldn't bet on that, though Kanye West has thrown his hat into the ring.

And people complain about Melanija as FLOTUS, just immagine Kim Carcrashian as FLOTUS!

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The worst is that Kanye is just as qualified as the other two candidates
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The worst is that Kanye is just as qualified as the other two candidates
And over 30 years younger
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