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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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... take wheel out of the hands of orange kido and handed to a proper adult.
This reminded me of a dwindling social club I was invited to join, years ago. I went along to meet them, only to witness their engaging in a huge fight about how the club ought to be managed, who was competent to make which decisions, etc., including a lot of personal insults. I, being young and shocked, muttered something to the effect that any random group of adults could probably run things better than this chaos.

One of the committee members heard me and marched right out of the room into a busy street and yelled: "Hey! Anyone want to join our club and run it? There's a visitor in here who thinks any random adults could do it better than we do!" He was such a charismatic man that, lo and behold, a half-a-dozen strangers took him up on his invitation, on the spot, and joined us inside.

Lots of discussion ensued, as they were told what the club would do, and what their role would be were they to join. Thinking they were all crazy, I quietly exited. To everyone's amazement, those strangers did indeed join, and the club was transformed and much improved. So they said. I never went back.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump just tweeted he fired his 2020 Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale and replaced him with Bill Stepien, he also claimed his poll numbers are risng fast which seems to be the opposite of reality.
He needs to do a lot more than that to improve his polling especially by stopping the ever-increasing COVID-19 numbers.

Real Clear Politics poll of polls shows Biden averaging 8.6 points ahead and Trump at his lowest at 40.1., fivethirtyeight has Biden average 9.1 points ahead.
Remember the president is elected by the electoral college, not by the popular vote, and national polls can only approximate the popular vote.

With the virus blocking Spanky from his "Nuremberg Rallies" it will be difficult for him to find a route to winning, still he has almost four months to work on this.
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Trump just tweeted he fired his 2020 Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale and replaced him with Bill Stepien, he also claimed his poll numbers are risng fast which seems to be the opposite of reality.
He needs to do a lot more than that to improve his polling especially by stopping the ever-increasing COVID-19 numbers.

Real Clear Politics poll of polls shows Biden averaging 8.6 points ahead and Trump at his lowest at 40.1., fivethirtyeight has Biden average 9.1 points ahead.
Remember the president is elected by the electoral college, not by the popular vote, and national polls can only approximate the popular vote.

With the virus blocking Spanky from his "Nuremberg Rallies" it will be difficult for him to find a route to winning, still he has almost four months to work on this.
Biden can't distinguish right from left anymore and Trump won 2016 with a 40% approval rate.
What are your throughts there?
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Biden can't distinguish right from left anymore and Trump won 2016 with a 40% approval rate.
What are your throughts there?
The Real Clear Politics final average poll had Clinton 3.6 points ahead (46.8 vs Trump 43.6)
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As mentioned, the president is elected by the electoral college, not by the popular vote, and national polls can only approximate the popular vote.
In the Clinton case she finished 2.1 points ahead in the popular vote so those polls were reasonably accurate.

If you compare the Clinton polls versus Biden you see in the Clinton case the size of the difference with Trump over the past year varied a lot from day to day even with Trump sometimes leading.
Whereas Biden was always at least 5 points ahead.

Maybe voters will prefer a candidate who can't distinguish right from left versus one who ignores the virus and so allows people to die in their thousands, it is a load of cr#p either way.
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Biden can't distinguish right from left anymore and Trump won 2016 with a 40% approval rate.
What are your throughts there?
Why exactly do you think that Biden can't "distinguish right from left?"
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....Trump won 2016 with a 40% approval rate...
Approval rate? For what?

Usually refers to approval rate for the job he's doing as president and in 2016 he wasn't president.
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Why exactly do you think that Biden can't "distinguish right from left?"
I‘ve listened to Biden speak. He makes more sense than Trump, imho and does seem to have his bearings. He also has some empathy. But clearly, that‘s my opinion. Biden has a stutter and a particular way of speaking. Trump has no stutter but his mannerisms are also unique.

Neither candidate exudes youth and energy, however, and that‘s a shame. So while I’m not super excited, for sure I will vote for Biden.

The key will be how Trump does in the Swing states, and whether or not voter turnout is high. Voter suppression is a real risk in many of these places.

But the really important races are Congress. Even if Trump wins again (), anything to diminish Republican power in the senate will help.
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Including the special elections in Arizona and Georgia, Republicans will be defending 23 seats in 2020, while the Democratic Party will be defending 12 seats. Democrats will need to pick up three or four seats to gain a majority, depending on which party wins control of the vice presidency.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I will be very surprised if more Democrats do not get out to vote this November. A lot of people didn't like him in 2016 but literally hate him now. And I've seen quite a few people who voted Republican in 2016 say that they are now voting Democrat. In 2016, people who voted for Trump really had no idea what he would actually prove himself to be, as president. It's easy to sway people with promises and rhetoric, but "the proof is in the pudding" so to speak. And I think that, for many Americans, Trump's handling of the pandemic, in particular, has really exposed what kind of leader -- and person -- he truly is.
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I will be very surprised if more Democrats do not get out to vote this November. A lot of people didn't like him in 2016 but literally hate him now. And I've seen quite a few people who voted Republican in 2016 say that they are now voting Democrat. In 2016, people who voted for Trump really had no idea what he would actually prove himself to be, as president. It's easy to sway people with promises and rhetoric, but "the proof is in the pudding" so to speak. And I think that, for many Americans, Trump's handling of the pandemic, in particular, has really exposed what kind of leader -- and person -- he truly is.
Getting out the vote and mitigating suppression are key. Suppression and gerrymandering are the favorite tools of Republicans.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Some explanations here on why these recent polls may be more accurate than 2016.
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Why exactly do you think that Biden can't "distinguish right from left?"
Did you listen or watch his last interview? Even reading from a teleprompter, he's messing up and slurring incoherently. All the questions he's being asked are carefully prepped and with ready answers to go. He reminds me a lot of Lloyd Bridges in Hot Shots, he doesn't know what the hell is going on.

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Did you listen or watch his last interview? Even reading from a teleprompter, he's messing up and slurring incoherently. All the questions he's being asked are carefully prepped and with ready answers to go. He reminds me a lot of Lloyd Bridges in Hot Shots, he doesn't know what the hell is going on.
Yeah but Bridges is funny. Biden is not.
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Did you listen or watch his last interview? Even reading from a teleprompter, he's messing up and slurring incoherently. All the questions he's being asked are carefully prepped and with ready answers to go. He reminds me a lot of Lloyd Bridges in Hot Shots, he doesn't know what the hell is going on.
Yes, I watched his recent talk in Delaware (about clean energy, etc.) and many of his past talks or speeches, and I did not notice any slurring or any indication that he doesn't know "left from right" etc. But what I do realize is that he has struggled with a stuttering problem all of his life and has to adjust his speech because of it. And what I DO see are a lot of people on the right making fun of him for it and trying to turn it into some kind of reason to accuse him of having dementia.

In this video, a woman questions Biden about his speech impediment, asking him what advice he would give to a college student who is trying to overcome their stuttering problem. And he begins his response by pointing out that stuttering is a handicap that some people feel is okay to laugh about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWn1CkIU_rc
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Also, something I'm trying to wrap my head around... Why is it that Trump can slur or make a mistake, and none of his supporters try to turn it into being a sign of dementia, but if Biden slurs or makes a mistake, then it instantly becomes a sign of Biden having dementia?

Here is a link to the video of Biden's recent speech in Delaware. So where exactly is he slurring his words and/or showing signs of dementia and that he doesn't "know left from right?"

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473845...ngton-delaware
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I posted earlier that people conform to Trumps view on COVID-19 until sadly the real world hits them.

Trump retweeted a tweet;
"RT @chuckwoolery: The most outrageous lies are the ones about Covid 19. Everyone is lying. The CDC, Media, Democrats, our Doctors, not all…

Now, sadly, chuck woolery's son was diagnosed with COVID-19 so chuckwoolery has deleted his @chuckwoolery twitter account.
This is a horrible way for someone to learn Spanky is full of cr#p, I wish chuck woolery good health in his family.
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Frankly I’d prefer a senile old man to the boy clown. Fortunately Biden isn’t there at least yet.

But I recall the last couple of years of Reagan, he clearly had gone to cloud cuckoo land but he wasn’t particularly dangerous.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

i just finished watching the live White House press briefing given by Trump's press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany. aka Evil Barbie.

As always, she ended the press conference very abruptly after making an attack on Biden and Obama that was completely off-course. It just came out of nowhere. So she makes the attack on Biden, suddenly closes her notes and walks away, accepting no more questions from the press. In other words, refusing to allow anyone in the press to question her on her attacks against Biden. And she does this every time. It's extremely immature. She was also doing her best to try to convince Americans that Trump has been handling the situation with the virus better than any other country.
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i just finished watching the live White House press briefing given by Trump's press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany. aka Evil Barbie.

As always, she ended the press conference very abruptly after making an attack on Biden and Obama that was completely off-course. It just came out of nowhere. So she makes the attack on Biden, suddenly closes her notes and walks away, accepting no more questions from the press. In other words, refusing to allow anyone in the press to question her on her attacks against Biden. And she does this every time. It's extremely immature. She was also doing her best to try to convince Americans that Trump has been handling the situation with the virus better than any other country.
Marginally better than Brazil.
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Marginally better than Brazil.
lol.

Assuming he wins a second term ()... One year from now, she will be saying: "Only 50% of Americans have died from the virus. That means that 50% have lived, and that was due to Trump's impeccable handling of the virus."
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