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Old 24.07.2020, 23:32
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On the other hand the opinion leaders like Hannity and Carlson are heavily biased..
That's why they are opinion leaders.
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I wouldn't blame him but those who behave like this. They are accountable for their reactions. They also can opt for whatever reaction, incl. zero reaction.

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Well, he seems to be determined to provoke people. You know what they say - every action has a reaction. I don't think those who stir people up are free of any responsibility.

I'm not sure he was voted to play with people's emotions, however ridiculous those may be. I wouldn't be happy with a president like this. I would be happier with someone who at least gives the appearance they're trying to fix what needs to be fixed and lets the facts speak for themselves.
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And I agreed with you on this one....sigh. It is unacceptable for us in Europe but we're talking about USA where everything seems to be heavily polarised and focused on social issues these days. I can imagine some people would have preferred a female candidate, minority or not*. Well, in fact gender equality seems to be taken more seriously in Europe too but that's not the point here.
*the more "boxes" a candidate scores, the better...I assume.
So while you think it's all BS, maybe the survey should be read in that key. I don't know, it's just an opinion. I might repeat myself - I found it ridiculous too.
You're right, my apologies.

Things are different here, but not for the better. And they keep getting worse.

50% more girls/women attain the Matura via the Gymnasium route than boys/men, for example, but of course it's the girls who are suppressed and disadvantaged. One of the elected for the federal parliament last year is SP member Hans Stöckli. No surprise there, reportedly he's a liked and well respected person. Yet some party members had the guts to publicly ask him to step down in favor of a woman, for no other reason than being a man. Obviously sexist yet nobody cared. That's only the tip of the iceberg.
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You're right, my apologies.

Things are different here, but not for the better. And they keep getting worse.

50% more girls/women attain the Matura via the Gymnasium route than boys/men, for example, but of course it's the girls who are suppressed and disadvantaged. One of the elected for the federal parliament last year is SP member Hans Stöckli. No surprise there, reportedly he's a liked and well respected person. Yet some party members had the guts to publicly ask him to step down in favor of a woman, for no other reason than being a man. Obviously sexist yet nobody cared. That's only the tip of the iceberg.
The only things that should matter are credentials, not one's gender or age or skin colour. I wonder if the distinguished SP members realise they're doing a disfavour to their female colleagues. There are other ways to promote a more balanced strategy in decision-making processes and they should not imply discriminating male colleagues in exchange. Hopefully they are in minority and no woman would have agreed to replace a male colleague under these circumstances. To think I actually had a good impression of this party....but definitely not when it becomes too dogmatic. (it's not the only one and my knowledge is quite limited because I don't vote here yet)
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Old 25.07.2020, 16:00
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Trump seems to be reverting to the fifties losing his gift of the common touch and communicating with people at their level.
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That was in Germany, I suppose marton asked about USA? We keep mixing up things here and it's just tedious to follow this discussion.
We were talking about Antifa.

Who were already a big thing in Germany long before they became widely known in the USA.
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Old 25.07.2020, 16:12
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Mail voting will start quite early, if I understand correctly. What actually happens if you cast your vote for one of the candidates as soon as they have been formally nominated, and between then and Nov 3 this candidate dies? Does your vote automatically then count for the running mate of the late candidate?
An interesting discussion about it here:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...un-for-office/
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Old 25.07.2020, 16:15
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Daniel H was murdered by a Syrian asylum seeker, not an ANTIFA member.
No other Antifa members were involved.
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We were talking about Antifa.

Who were already a big thing in Germany long before they became widely known in the USA.
Well given there is no such organisation as "Antifa" (despite what the alt-right desperately want to believe) and therefore no such thing as an Antifa member, it would be difficult for them to be responsible for anything.
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Old 25.07.2020, 16:41
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To be fair, it's up to each State governor to issue regulations on what's best for their state.
Meanwhile Trump is sending federal agents into US cities against the wishes of their Governors and mayors.
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Trump seems to be reverting to the fifties losing his gift of the common touch and communicating with people at their level.


Hands up everybody who wants to be labeled as a "Suburban Housewife".
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Ok, so worms are out of the can already, I can ask. While I do know unhappy, frustrated or dissatisfied suburban housewives (for whatever reasons, just like anyone else), I think you are stereotyping. Because in my mind, there isn't actually anything inherently wrong with being a suburban housewife. It can totally rock.
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Well given there is no such organisation as "Antifa" (despite what the alt-right desperately want to believe) and therefore no such thing as an Antifa member, it would be difficult for them to be responsible for anything.
so in other words, marton's statement was pretty pointless?
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Ok, so worms are out of the can already, I can ask. While I do know unhappy, frustrated or dissatisfied suburban housewives (for whatever reasons, just like anyone else), I think you are stereotyping. Because in my mind, there isn't actually anything inherently wrong with being a suburban housewife. It can totally rock.
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I think you are stereotyping.
Who is stereotyping -- marton or Trump?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

WILL TRUMP BE A GOOD DICTATOR?

Will the americans (congress) be foolish and ignorant enough to do this?

With Biden as the other option it just might happen.



Just imagine Trump doing what Saddam Husain did when he made it to dictator.

Out you go to the firing squad.
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so in other words, marton's statement was pretty pointless?
Of course it was but you reacted anyway

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A federal judge ordered Michael Cohen (Trump's personal consigliere lawyer) to be released into home confinement after finding the government had sent him back to prison in retaliation for a tell-book he was writing about President Donald Trump.

During a phone hearing on Thursday, Judge Alvin Hellerstein rejected prosecutors' argument that they didn't customize a release form prohibiting Cohen from engaging with the media. Hellerstein said there was no other "inference" to take than retaliation for why Cohen was brought back into federal custody after he had been released on furlough.

"In 21 years of being a judge and sentencing people and looking at terms and conditions of supervised release, I've never seen such a clause," Hellerstein said.
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The Cohen court hearing on Thursday came the same day the Trump administration admitted it had made false statements to a judge in defending the Department of Homeland Security's decision earlier this year to block New York state residents from participating in international travel programs.

The judge, Jesse Furman, presiding over the DHS case also oversaw a lawsuit brought by state attorneys general against the Commerce Department challenging the addition of a citizenship question to the US census -- another example where a judge said the administration's words couldn't be taken at face value. (The Supreme Court would eventually rule against the administration.)

It is important that the judges trust the DOJ prosecutors. In an increasing number of court cases (e.g. Flynn, Stone) this trust is being damaged; this so-called "reservoir of trust" is easly drained and then takes a long time to be restored. This turns into a major problem for DOJ if, in future, judges demand they prove every statement they make in court.
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Despite Trump's flag-waving and claiming people disrespect the US by protesting during the National Anthem the movement grows ever wider.
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The US Supreme Court on Friday denied a petition from a church in Nevada that argued a policy limiting in-person church attendance to 50 during the coronavirus pandemic violated the Constitution.

The decision was 5-4.
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so in other words, marton's statement was pretty pointless?
Not really, no.
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We were talking about Antifa.

Who were already a big thing in Germany long before they became widely known in the USA.
No, we were talking about protests in the USA. And your example wasn't "Antifa", what happened in Germany was committed by an asylum seeker.

Let's stay on topic.

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WILL TRUMP BE A GOOD DICTATOR?

Will the americans (congress) be foolish and ignorant enough to do this?

With Biden as the other option it just might happen.



Just imagine Trump doing what Saddam Husain did when he made it to dictator.

Out you go to the firing squad.


I imagine something like this

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