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And for those people who like to claim Trump is not racist please study this tweet and tell me how best to describe him.
He's talking about low income housing, what's it got to do with race?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

How many blacks are in the top 1%? The top 10%, even the top 60%?
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How many blacks are in the top 1%? The top 10%, even the top 60%?

Depends if you include rappers and basketballers ;-)
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Not directly related to Trump but to the election, here is an update on Kanye West.
  • He's registered as an independent candidate with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).
  • He's qualified for the ballot in Oklahoma and Colorado - 16 EC votes combined up for grabs
  • He applied but withdrew from New Jersey after petitions were challenged as having fraudulent signatures (same person appeared to sign multiple times under different names)
  • He didn't get enough signatures to get on the ballot in South Carolina
  • He has missed the deadline to qualify in numerous states, with a combined "loss" of 225 possible EC votes.
  • He needs to qualify in California by Friday (55 EC votes) or it's mathematically impossible for him to win the required 270 EC votes in November

Realistically speaking, he can't win anyway because he'd need to beat both Trump and Biden in virtually every state he qualifies for. I don't think that's his point. He wants publicity for himself an his album and he provides a great distraction.

He has a lot of support from Republican strategists to get on the ballot, because they think he will pull black voters away from Biden. In Wisconsin, his papers were even hand-delivered by a top Republican attorney.

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The Republican Party of Wisconsin issued a statement praising Ruhland and welcoming West's candidacy.

"It appears that the Kanye West campaign made a smart decision by hiring an experienced election attorney," said Alesha Gunther, spokesperson for the Republican Party of Wisconsin. "We welcome Kanye West and all other candidates who qualified for ballot access to the race, and look forward to delivering Wisconsin’s 10 electoral votes to President Trump.
more info on Forbes as well

And Wikipedia is keeping a slightly outdated page going too
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It seems Mr. Trump has imposed sanctions on Carrie Lam, the Hong Kong Chief Executive for undermining Democracy. Apparently she has suppressed peaceful protests and delayed an election.

I wonder what the people of Portland think about this.

And does he really think that she would be so stupid to have any any of her money anywhere near the US?

Talk loudly and carry an ineffective stick. (Apologies to Teddy Roosevelt)
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How many blacks are in the top 1%? The top 10%, even the top 60%?
I guess if you believe that having a low income is synonymous with being black then it was kind of racist.
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I guess if you believe that having a low income is synonymous with being black then it was kind of racist.
According to 2018 US Census Data,
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I guess if you believe that having a low income is synonymous with being black then it was kind of racist.
I don't think that comment was implying that low income is synonymous with being black but more that it was acknowledging the fact that many low-income neighborhoods in the US (particularly in larger cities) are predominantly black.

"Non-Hispanic blacks (hereafter “blacks”) generally live in poorer neighborhoods than other Americans. In metropolitan areas in 2010, for example, blacks were nearly four times more likely than other residents to live in neighborhoods where the poverty rate was 40% or higher."

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5127296/

African Americans are still concentrated in neighborhoods with high poverty and still lack full access to decent housing
https://www.epi.org/publication/afri...neighborhoods/
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Looks like it will be an interesting election
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U.S. intelligence report on Trump-Biden election meddling reveals who Russia, China and Iran want to win

Russia is trying to “undermine” presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s candidacy, a leading U.S. intelligence official said Friday.
But China and Iran want President Donald Trump to lose the election, said William Evanina, director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center.
Probably China are more subtle then Russia

Meanwhile Trump getting push back from judiciary
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A federal appeals court on Friday upheld the House's subpoena of former White House counsel Don McGahn, ruling that Congress has the right to enforce its subpoenas in court.

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A federal appeals court ruled on Friday that House Democrats can proceed with a lawsuit over President Trump’s diversion of $2.5 billion in Pentagon funding to build a U.S.-Mexico border wall.
Finally a late Friday story!
Jerry Falwell Jr. president and chancellor of Liberty University, and Trump supporter placed on indefinite leave.
Liberty University (LU) is a private evangelical Christian university in Lynchburg, Virginia.
The university's honor code, called the "Liberty Way", prohibits premarital sex and private interactions between members of the opposite sex and other stuff we enjoy like alcohol.

So why was Jerry suspended?
Falwell received criticism for posting a photo to social media that showed him with his pants unzipped alongside a woman who is not his wife.
Some sources claim they were both holding wine glasses and the woman's pants were also unzipped.
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According to 2018 US Census Data,
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If Trump mentions 'low income' and you connote that to meaning 'black' then that's your prejudice, not his.
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If Trump mentions 'low income' and you connote that to meaning 'black' then that's your prejudice, not his.
I did not connote that to meaning 'black', do not put false words in my mouth.

The word I used was "racist".
As I already posted according to the US Census bureau 90% of low income people are non white, that is surely not so hard for anyone to understand

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think he was talking about me. But I am not racist. I think having neighbourhoods that are mixed and well integrated are the way to go. We have wealthy and relatively poor and everything in between in our village and we usually get along well.
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According to 2018 US Census Data,
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Forget any census. Poverty is about us!
https://blogs.msn.com/povertynextdoo...ut-us-not-them
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I did not connote that to meaning 'black', do not put false words in my mouth.

The word I used was "racist".
As I already posted according to the US Census bureau 90% of low income people are non white, that is surely not so hard for anyone to understand
Assigning an ethnicity (or more) to poverty seems like ignoring that fact that everyone can be hit hard by poverty and whatever measures need to be taken should address the problem of poverty not something else.
If the Dems continue to see universal problems (job insecurity, pension, access to quality health care, education, housing etc etc) as belonging to only one group or another they'll lose a massive part of their supporters. People can accept not being heard and seen only for that long. I think this the main thing I cannot see eye to eye with a certain part of the left.

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I think he was talking about me. But I am not racist. I think having neighbourhoods that are mixed and well integrated are the way to go. We have wealthy and relatively poor and everything in between in our village and we usually get along well.
Whoever, I was labelling Trump as racist.
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Looks like it will be an interesting election


Probably China are more subtle then Russia

Meanwhile Trump getting push back from judiciary


Finally a late Friday story!
Jerry Falwell Jr. president and chancellor of Liberty University, and Trump supporter placed on indefinite leave.
Liberty University (LU) is a private evangelical Christian university in Lynchburg, Virginia.
The university's honor code, called the "Liberty Way", prohibits premarital sex and private interactions between members of the opposite sex and other stuff we enjoy like alcohol.

So why was Jerry suspended?
Falwell received criticism for posting a photo to social media that showed him with his pants unzipped alongside a woman who is not his wife.
Some sources claim they were both holding wine glasses and the woman's pants were also unzipped.
This is claimed to be the original foto!
Attachment 140026

Did I ever post you could not make this stuff up.
Falwell claims that the photo was taken on his yacht, on vacation. The woman is his wife's assistant, and being pregnant, couldn't zip her shorts up. It seems that Falwell has put on some weight; he found an old pair of trousers and, coincidentally, couldn't zip them up, either. So he thought it would be amusing to be photographed next to his wife's assistant, both afflicted by bulging abdomens. He swears that the liquid in his glass was "black water"—just a prop. He didn't explain why his hand was a centimetre from the woman's breast.

But overall, Falwell's explanation sounds entirely reasonable and credible to me.
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On his yacht? I’m guessing he didn’t take a vow of poverty.
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On his yacht? I’m guessing he didn’t take a vow of poverty.
He mumbled through that bit. He might have done the same with the part about alcohol, too.

An aside: I love that the university that restricts or dictates young people's sex lives, access to alcohol, dress options, and social behaviours is called Liberty University.
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Assigning an ethnicity (or more) to poverty seems like ignoring that fact that everyone can be hit hard by poverty and whatever measures need to be taken should address the problem of poverty not something else.
If the Dems continue to see universal problems (job insecurity, pension, access to quality health care, education, housing etc etc) as belonging to only one group or another they'll lose a massive part of their supporters. People can accept not being heard and seen only for that long. I think this the main thing I cannot see eye to eye with a certain part of the left.
I’m not sure I see that anyone is “assigning an ethnicity to poverty” - breaking down the ethnicity of people reported as under the poverty line is reporting a statistic. Nothing more.
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Assigning an ethnicity (or more) to poverty seems like ignoring that fact that everyone can be hit hard by poverty and whatever measures need to be taken should address the problem of poverty not something else.
If the Dems continue to see universal problems (job insecurity, pension, access to quality health care, education, housing etc etc) as belonging to only one group or another they'll lose a massive part of their supporters. People can accept not being heard and seen only for that long. I think this the main thing I cannot see eye to eye with a certain part of the left.
I think it's pathetic but I believe it's known white savior complex.
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