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How much does the equivalent of a "Personalausweis" in the US cost to issue then?
For many people. the cost is the loss of a day's wages.


(ETA: In my state) One has to go in person to the DMV to apply. And many people, especially those working in marginal jobs, do not have paid time off. The 'luxury' of taking a day off to stand in long lines at the DMV is something many cannot afford.

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A new ID/voter registration crisis is brewing. One of the documents needed to obtain an ID or to register to vote is proof of residence.

As the economy tanked putting millions are out of work, many predict a wave of evictions as people can no longer pay their rent. If one is homeless, meeting the proof of residency requirement is, obviously, difficult.

There are legal aid groups that help the homeless to get registered, obtain documents (you need a 'certificate of homelessness', for instance) - but even accessing this help while homeless can be an overwhelming task.

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In my home state the cost of the actual state ID (the document issued if one does not have the default ID, a driver's license) is $5 or $10 for under 18s, $20 for those older, free if you are over 65, homeless, or incarcerated. But as above, the real cost to obtain the document is, for many, much higher.
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I know you are a troll Tony, and not a particularly intelligent one to boot, but the evidence that mail-in voting is not subject to significant fraud or boas is overwhelming if you simply do your research.

https://latino.ucla.edu/wp-content/u...-Fraud-res.pdf

http://www.andrewbenjaminhall.com/Th..._et_al_VBM.pdf

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/tr...-fraud-claims/

However, we all all know you are not interested in facts, science or research, or an actual debate. You are just stubbornly and repetitively pushing your agenda in each and every political thread.



That would be giving him far too much credit. He doesn't read any links or evidence... period.
Awww, resorting to insults again. This appears to be a theme with you when someone disagrees with your opinion. Are you an insecure person?

The fact remains that postal voting is far more open to abuse than voting in person with ID. This is undeniable. Furthermore, what's also known is that successful prosecutions of postal voter fraud is only the tip of the iceberg, due to how hard and costly it is to investigate and bring cases to court.

People can register to vote in different addresses and then vote more than once. Votes can be bought and sold, or people can vote in person and also by post. Landlords can register to vote at addresses where they don't live. Data held be third parties can be used to apply for postal votes and then intercepted. People can be forced to fill out postal votes under duress, or even give up their ballot paper completely.

To fairest way to vote is in person and with ID. If people want President Trump out of the White House FAIRLY and to avoid a legal nightmare in November then elections should be open and lawful and that means having one vote and casting it in person.
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Awww, resorting to insults again. This appears to be a theme with you when someone disagrees with your opinion. Are you an insecure person?

The fact remains that postal voting is far more open to abuse than voting in person with ID. This is undeniable. Furthermore, what's also known is that successful prosecutions of postal voter fraud is only the tip of the iceberg, due to how hard and costly it is to investigate and bring cases to court.

People can register to vote in different addresses and then vote more than once. Votes can be bought and sold, or people can vote in person and also by post. Landlords can register to vote at addresses where they don't live. Data held be third parties can be used to apply for postal votes and then intercepted. People can be forced to fill out postal votes under duress, or even give up their ballot paper completely.

To fairest way to vote is in person and with ID. If people want President Trump out of the White House FAIRLY and to avoid a legal nightmare in November then elections should be open and lawful and that means having one vote and casting it in person.
It's not some kind of straw-man insults, it's what I genuinely think based on what you write and what I would tell you directly, in person, were you to deliver the same arguments to me. You do not present facts, you present rhetoric, unscientific arguments and sometimes outright lies. I can't show any respect for you or anyone else on this forum that does the same (like Full Circle et al) as I have nothing but geuine contempt for that kind of behaviour.

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For many people. the cost is the loss of a day's wages.


(ETA: In my state) One has to go in person to the DMV to apply. And many people, especially those working in marginal jobs, do not have paid time off. The 'luxury' of taking a day off to stand in long lines at the DMV is something many cannot afford.

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A new ID/voter registration crisis is brewing. One of the documents needed to obtain an ID or to register to vote is proof of residence.

As the economy tanked putting millions are out of work, many predict a wave of evictions as people can no longer pay their rent. If one is homeless, meeting the proof of residency requirement is, obviously, difficult.

There are legal aid groups that help the homeless to get registered, obtain documents (you need a 'certificate of homelessness', for instance) - but even accessing this help while homeless can be an overwhelming task.

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In my home state the cost of the actual state ID (the document issued if one does not have the default ID, a driver's license) is $5 or $10 for under 18s, $20 for those older, free if you are over 65, homeless, or incarcerated. But as above, the real cost to obtain the document is, for many, much higher.



Ah, OK.
I do have to take off a day, too, to get to Germany for this stuff (and another one to collect the ID(s)).


Obviously, they don't want people who made (or look like they made) poor life- and financial decisions to have a say in political decisions either.


Very medieval.
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...People can register to vote in different addresses and then vote more than once. Votes can be bought and sold, or people can vote in person and also by post. Landlords can register to vote at addresses where they don't live. Data held be third parties can be used to apply for postal votes and then intercepted. People can be forced to fill out postal votes under duress, or even give up their ballot paper completely.

To fairest way to vote is in person and with ID. If people want President Trump out of the White House FAIRLY and to avoid a legal nightmare in November then elections should be open and lawful and that means having one vote and casting it in person.
Times have changed, and what you describe above is more the exception than the rule thanks to the Help America Vote Act (HAVA), which was passed after the 2000 debacle.

People can try to register in more than one location, but thanks to statewide databases those duplicates are caught. Statewide databases are pinged against dept of corrections to catch felons, dept of motor vehicles to cross-check driver's license numbers, social security administration to verify SSN, etc. States also send notices to each other and through the system I mentioned above to make sure people aren't voting in more than one state.

It's nearly impossible to vote by post and in person these days. The voter rolls that are sent to the polling place are updated with the information that someone has requested an absentee ballot, and that means you usually can't vote at the polls after you've requested absentee. The checks in the paragraph above help ensure individuals have only one voter record instead of many.

Third parties can request ballots in theory, but those requests would have to be signed and the signature wouldn't match the voter's signature on file. Same with returning ballots.

Whether a person votes under universal vote by mail or absentee, there's always a possibility of duress but it's definitely the exception not the norm. There's voter intimidation at the polls too, particularly by so-called "poll watchers" who like to challenge voters' ballots or march around outside with scary signs about felonies and whatnot. I've dealt with my fair share of these "watchers" over the years.
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Times have changed, and what you describe above is more the exception than the rule thanks to the Help America Vote Act (HAVA), which was passed after the 2000 debacle.

People can try to register in more than one location, but thanks to statewide databases those duplicates are caught. Statewide databases are pinged against dept of corrections to catch felons, dept of motor vehicles to cross-check driver's license numbers, social security administration to verify SSN, etc. States also send notices to each other and through the system I mentioned above to make sure people aren't voting in more than one state.

It's nearly impossible to vote by post and in person these days. The voter rolls that are sent to the polling place are updated with the information that someone has requested an absentee ballot, and that means you usually can't vote at the polls after you've requested absentee. The checks in the paragraph above help ensure individuals have only one voter record instead of many.

Third parties can request ballots in theory, but those requests would have to be signed and the signature wouldn't match the voter's signature on file. Same with returning ballots.

Whether a person votes under universal vote by mail or absentee, there's always a possibility of duress but it's definitely the exception not the norm. There's voter intimidation at the polls too, particularly by so-called "poll watchers" who like to challenge voters' ballots or march around outside with scary signs about felonies and whatnot. I've dealt with my fair share of these "watchers" over the years.
Let's wait and see what happens then! Unfortunately I have heard too many stories of how postal vote fraud happens, and how hard it is to get a prosecution for my mind to be swayed. I suspect we'll be seeing legal challenges no matter who wins this November. Wouldn't it be ironic were the Democrats to bring a legal case over voter fraud this winter? The polls have tightened in recent days and there's still all to play for however at this stage I believe President Trump will win again.
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Awww, resorting to insults again. This appears to be a theme with you when someone disagrees with your opinion. Are you an insecure person?

The fact remains that postal voting is far more open to abuse than voting in person with ID. This is undeniable. Furthermore, what's also known is that successful prosecutions of postal voter fraud is only the tip of the iceberg, due to how hard and costly it is to investigate and bring cases to court.

People can register to vote in different addresses and then vote more than once. Votes can be bought and sold, or people can vote in person and also by post. Landlords can register to vote at addresses where they don't live. Data held be third parties can be used to apply for postal votes and then intercepted. People can be forced to fill out postal votes under duress, or even give up their ballot paper completely.

To fairest way to vote is in person and with ID. If people want President Trump out of the White House FAIRLY and to avoid a legal nightmare in November then elections should be open and lawful and that means having one vote and casting it in person.
You keep demonstrating your lack of knowledge of the voting rules in the US despite 3W's repeated attempts to educate you.

Indeed votes can be bought and sold but that equally applies to id voting as to vote by mail.

About "Furthermore, what's also known is that successful prosecutions of postal voter fraud is only the tip of the iceberg, due to how hard and costly it is to investigate and bring cases to court. "
Known to who? More fact free claims without any attempt to provide any evidence

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Philadelphia election judge Domenick J. DeMuro pleaded guilty last May to federal charges of exchanging rigged votes for a Democratic consultant’s bribes of $300 to $5,000 per election. “He would add the fraudulent votes by literally standing in the voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, when he thought the coast was clear.”

DeMuro’s fraudulent votes accounted for over 22 percent of the total voting in that Division in 2014
In 2015, his fraud accounted for over 15 percent of the votes in the Division; in 2016, his fraud accounted for over 17 percent of the votes.”
Makes mail-in fraud look like the peanuts it is.
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Let's wait and see what happens then! Unfortunately I have heard too many stories of how postal vote fraud happens, and how hard it is to get a prosecution for my mind to be swayed. I suspect we'll be seeing legal challenges no matter who wins this November. Wouldn't it be ironic were the Democrats to bring a legal case over voter fraud this winter? The polls have tightened in recent days and there's still all to play for however at this stage I believe President Trump will win again.
"I have heard too many stories of how postal vote fraud happens, and how hard it is to get a prosecution " LOL! Fact free claims based I have to assume on voices you hear in the night as you do not deign to provide any backup.

Do explain how a non American citizen living thousands from the US gets into this hot line of postal vote fraud stories that the US-based fraud investigators do not get to hear.
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It was put up overnight on the night before the election. I was only in the seat the day of the election so there's no way I'm mistaken on this point.

It's an outright attempt to bully and intimidate voters into not voting conservative. It absolutely is an felony on at least two grounds - I) not bearing an official imprint, ii) not being listed as an election expense. I'm also reasonably sure that you aren't allowed to put up literature within sight of the polling station. The message may also be illegal although I'm not sure on this point. It certainly should be.

You also aren't allowed to put up election literature on council property - which this was. Although I don't think that's a felony, I could be wrong.

The point is far too many left wing activists have very little respect for the rules of democratic conduct. We aren't taking one or two people- we are talking thousands of pieces of undeclared illegal literature just in one seat. Obviously dodgy PV practices. Messages that proport to be from different parties (I've seen one that bore the Lib Dem logo too). There's meant to be a level playing field and there isn't.

I've never seen any significant rule breaking from campaigners in either the Tory or the Liberal party in years of activism.
Why is it every single piece of evidence used by those of a certain persuasion on here is purely anecdotal.

Why is it when they are challenged on specifics (such as matters of law, and therefore fact) they always say "I believe, I think, I'm reasonably sure, I could be wrong, etc"?

Also, UK, felonies, really?
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Why is it every single piece of evidence used by those of a certain persuasion on here is purely anecdotal.

Why is it when they are challenged on specifics (such as matters of law, and therefore fact) they always say "I believe, I think, I'm reasonably sure, I could be wrong, etc"?

Also, UK, felonies, really?
Well, at least we agree on one topic.
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IIRC one county somewhere in the midwest only opened applications for non-dl ID on the third Wednesday of the month from 07h00-08h30. In person only with a dl or a birth certificate for verification.

In an average year that would be twice a hear for a total of 3 hours.
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IIRC one county somewhere in the midwest only opened applications for non-dl ID on the third Wednesday of the month from 07h00-08h30. In person only with a dl or a birth certificate for verification.

In an average year that would be twice a hear for a total of 3 hours.
You're probably recalling Wisconsin:
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An ethics lawsuit against President Donald Trump that argues his business interests are conflicts of interest and violate the US Constitution can continue in federal court, a federal appeals court said Monday.

This is one of several cases about the Emoluments Clause and whether Trump's business holdings violate it while he serves as President.
All have progressed slowly in court.
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If he is not reelected in November then these cases become moot, whether there can be any action taken against an ex-President on these grounds I do not know.

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A federal judge on Monday blocked the Trump administration's rollback of an Obama-era regulation prohibiting discrimination in health care against patients who are transgender, a day before it was set to go into effect.

US District Court Judge Frederic Block found that the planned rollback, which was announced in June, violates the Supreme Court's landmark ruling that extended federal civil rights law to gay, lesbian and transgender workers.
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As the Judge said, after the clear Supreme Court decision they should have paused and considered if their roll back was still legal.

Meanwhile Michelle Obama gave a strong speech against Trump at the Dem covention, for example, she accused him of being “clearly in over his head” and being “the wrong president for our country.”
“He cannot meet this moment. He simply cannot be who we need him to be for us,” she said.

Trump continues to indicate he will fight the election result if he loses. Hard to see how he could be successful. He could stay in the White House and refuse to leave but then it would come down to how the secret service and other law officers choose to handle the situation. Presumably they could choose to block his access to his bedroom, the Oval office and other internal areas?
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Trump continues to indicate he will fight the election result if he loses. Hard to see how he could be successful. He could stay in the White House and refuse to leave but then it would come down to how the secret service and other law officers choose to handle the situation. Presumably they could choose to block his access to his bedroom, the Oval office and other internal areas?
Block access? Why not do him for trespassing and drag him out the gate?
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I wish Melania Trump would go down in history with a blaze of glory and file for divorce against Trump now, while he is in the white House, and then leak it to the press so that it's all they talk about. No matter what their marriage contract says, we have seen enough of him to know that he must behave horribly in private, so she could probably easily circumvent any legal retrictions were she to claim true mental distress. She would still end up a very wealthy woman due to alimony payments (they have a son, Barron) and the inevitable clamour to get her story.

Faced by election hell and an ongoing public relationship struggle, he would probably have a meltdown both personally and in terms of public opinion.

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I wishMelania Trump would go down in a blaze of glory and file for divorce against Trump now, while he is in the white House, and then leak it to the press. No matter what their marriage contract says, we have seen enough of him to know that he must behave horribly in private, so she could probably easily circumvent any legal retrictions were she to claim true mental distress. She would still end up a very wealthy woman due to alimony payments and the inevitable clamour to get her story.

Faced by election hell and an ongoing public relationship struggle, he would probably have a meltdown both personally and in terms of public opinion.
I'd prefer to wait until he can't press the buttons to end the world, or declare war on Slovenia.
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I wish Melania Trump would go down in history with a blaze of glory and file for divorce against Trump now, while he is in the white House, and then leak it to the press so that it's all they talk about. No matter what their marriage contract says, we have seen enough of him to know that he must behave horribly in private, so she could probably easily circumvent any legal retrictions were she to claim true mental distress. She would still end up a very wealthy woman due to alimony payments (they have a son, Barron) and the inevitable clamour to get her story.

Faced by election hell and an ongoing public relationship struggle, he would probably have a meltdown both personally and in terms of public opinion.
You're a friend of Melania she confides in?
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Block access? Why not do him for trespassing and drag him out the gate?
All they'd need to do is to block his access to his fridge.
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I wish Melania Trump would go down in history with a blaze of glory and file for divorce against Trump now, while he is in the white House, and then leak it to the press so that it's all they talk about. No matter what their marriage contract says, we have seen enough of him to know that he must behave horribly in private, so she could probably easily circumvent any legal retrictions were she to claim true mental distress. She would still end up a very wealthy woman due to alimony payments (they have a son, Barron) and the inevitable clamour to get her story.

Faced by election hell and an ongoing public relationship struggle, he would probably have a meltdown both personally and in terms of public opinion.
Sounds like you live in a left wing bubble.
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I wish Melania Trump would go down in history with a blaze of glory and file for divorce against Trump now, while he is in the white House, and then leak it to the press so that it's all they talk about. No matter what their marriage contract says, we have seen enough of him to know that he must behave horribly in private, so she could probably easily circumvent any legal retrictions were she to claim true mental distress. She would still end up a very wealthy woman due to alimony payments (they have a son, Barron) and the inevitable clamour to get her story.
Wishing that someones family breaks up is never a good look.
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