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Old 03.09.2020, 23:34
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Despite the Trump trade wars, the US trade deficit in July spiked 18.9 percent to $63.6 billion, the highest since July 2008 during the Great Recession, according to Commerce Department data released Thursday.

Imports spiked $22.7 billion since June, while exports increased by just $12.6 billion.

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He really has no clue how to reduce the US trade deficit.
In fact the trend has been poor all year.
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He is so obviously just desperately trying to sabotage the election and the election system. He votes by mail but then does his best to try to hinder Americans' ability to do the same during a PANDEMIC. And now he's encouraging Americans to commit a crime by voting twice, just to intentionally try to mess up the voting system. But wait. I thought he was the president of "law and order."

At this rate, if he does lose the election, they're going to have to go in there, shoot him with a tranquilizer gun and drag him out of the White House.

I also saw in the news today that Trump is now threatening to withhold funding for states where protests have been happening. So he's going to try to punish everyone in liberal-run states for protests that the majority of them haven't even been a part of. I wonder how many votes he'll lose for that.

The guy is just increasingly losing his mind. He's like a modern-day Caligula. It's one Twitter Tantrum after another. And if it was a few hundred years ago, he'd be holding public be-headings of anyone who disagrees with him.
Id have him down as more of a Tiberius. A decadent and lecherous old man who spends half of his time in his summer palace miles away from the centre of power avoiding responsibility and doing whatever he likes. I've got sympathy for Caligula as he had every reason to be paranoid with half his family murdered and (ultimately successful) attempts in his own life.
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He is so obviously just desperately trying to sabotage the election and the election system. He votes by mail but then does his best to try to hinder Americans' ability to do the same during a PANDEMIC. And now he's encouraging Americans to commit a crime by voting twice, just to intentionally try to mess up the voting system. But wait. I thought he was the president of "law and order."
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He actually didn't really encourage them to vote twice, just to show up in person to make sure their vote has been registered*....obviously he sows distrust in the voting system.

(I'm not a native English speaker so maybe I lost some nuances from his speech?)
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He actually didn't really encourage them to vote twice, just to show up in person to make sure their vote has been registered*....obviously he sows distrust in the voting system.

(I'm not a native English speaker so maybe I lost some nuances from his speech?)
Semantics. For once, he chose his words carefully, which is what gave AG Barr the wriggle room to deny that Trump was inciting people to break the law.
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Old 04.09.2020, 09:31
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He actually didn't really encourage them to vote twice, just to show up in person to make sure their vote has been registered*....obviously he sows distrust in the voting system.

(I'm not a native English speaker so maybe I lost some nuances from his speech?)
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"Let them send it in and let them go vote," he told North Carolina broadcaster WECT-TV on Wednesday.
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Old 04.09.2020, 10:09
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Semantics. For once, he chose his words carefully, which is what gave AG Barr the wriggle room to deny that Trump was inciting people to break the law.
Well not so careful, he said "if on Election Day or early voting, that [mail-in vote] is not tabulated and counted, you go vote".

This contains an unwarranted assumption that mail-in votes are immediately tabulated and counted. As we have seen in a number of US places it takes some time after the vote day before these votes are fully handled.
So he is telling people to take a big risk.
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Well not so careful, he said "if on Election Day or early voting, that [mail-in vote] is not tabulated and counted, you go vote".

This contains an unwarranted assumption that mail-in votes are immediately tabulated and counted. As we have seen in a number of US places it takes some time after the vote day before these votes are fully handled.
So he is telling people to take a big risk.
A number of states have said they will count the votes as they come in. I hope they maintain proper security.
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Old 04.09.2020, 10:27
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A number of states have said they will count the votes as they come in. I hope they maintain proper security.
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Trump also gave the same advice to people in Pennsylvania but unfortunately for them Pennsylvania starts processing mail-in votes "At 7am on Election Day." so they will not be prevented from voting at the ballot box if they already mailed in a vote.

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True.
Trump also gave the same advice to people in Pennsylvania but unfortunately for them Pennsylvania starts processing mail-in votes "At 7am on Election Day." so they will not be prevented from voting at the ballot box if they already mailed in a vote.

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Why couldn’t they just produce a list for poll workers of those that had voted by mail? Another thing for them to do, but as all states have accepted votes by mail for a very long time, there must be procedures in place to prevent duplicate voting.

Equally any postal votes received late could be checked against those that voted.
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Old 04.09.2020, 11:56
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How long did Trump take trying to undo everything that Obama had achieved?
As Obama achieved absolutely nothing, it didn't take long.

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Old 04.09.2020, 13:14
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As Obama achieved absolutely nothing, it didn't take long.

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Didn't you give up your citizenship under Obama?
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Why couldn’t they just produce a list for poll workers of those that had voted by mail? Another thing for them to do, but as all states have accepted votes by mail for a very long time, there must be procedures in place to prevent duplicate voting.

Equally any postal votes received late could be checked against those that voted.
Well in Pennsylvania they start processing the many thousands of postal votes at 7am on election day. So it is somewhat of a challenge to provide a list for poll workers of those that had voted by mail at poll station opening time. It will take them many hours to open all the envelopes and make a list.

The procedure is that after the event they check postal votes against ballot box votes and so can identify the people who voted twice. The laws and penalties for duplicate voting vary between different states. Pennsylvania’s election code makes it a third-degree felony punishable by up to seven years in prison and a $15,000 fine for someone convicted of voting more than once in the same election.
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I am assuming the use a similar system as we do where each vote is in two parts. Voter Identification and an envelope with the actual vote.

As the votes arrive the external envelope opened and the ID checked and put on a list. The internal envelope with the vote remains sealed until voting day, then counted.

It doesn’t seem to be rocket science.

Yes checks need to be in place at each step, but it can be done.
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Old 04.09.2020, 20:18
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As Obama achieved absolutely nothing, it didn't take long.

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A number of states have said they will count the votes as they come in. I hope they maintain proper security.
Each state has a long list of security protocols, but not all states count votes as they come in.

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Trump also gave the same advice to people in Pennsylvania but unfortunately for them Pennsylvania starts processing mail-in votes "At 7am on Election Day." so they will not be prevented from voting at the ballot box if they already mailed in a vote.

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Yes, it's possible they would be prevented from voting. The first presidential election I worked as an election official was way back in the 90s. Even then the voter lists at the polls had notations of who had requested and/or returned an absentee ballot. Those individuals were not permitted to vote in person. Even if they showed up with the ballot in hand it was not accepted, because ballots had to go to the county, not the polling place.

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Why couldn’t they just produce a list for poll workers of those that had voted by mail? Another thing for them to do, but as all states have accepted votes by mail for a very long time, there must be procedures in place to prevent duplicate voting.

Equally any postal votes received late could be checked against those that voted.
This was still the case in the last election I worked, poll lists were noted with anyone who had requested and/or returned an absentee ballot. Each ballot request is noted in the computer system, along with when the ballot was returned and recorded as voted.

Most states have laws that stop allowing requests for absentee ballots a few days before the election, so the poll lists can be run over the weekend or on Monday, depending on the size of the county or municipality.

Each state has different laws about postal votes received after Election Day. Some allow these votes so long as they're postmarked on Election Day, others only allow late postal votes from military and overseas voters. In either case, the fact these individuals requested an absentee ballot will be noted in the database.

Keep in mind a few states run elections exclusively by mail so it's even easier for them to make sure people only vote once.
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Old 04.09.2020, 22:21
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I am assuming the use a similar system as we do where each vote is in two parts. Voter Identification and an envelope with the actual vote.

As the votes arrive the external envelope opened and the ID checked and put on a list. The internal envelope with the vote remains sealed until voting day, then counted.

It doesn’t seem to be rocket science.

Yes checks need to be in place at each step, but it can be done.
Yes, except in Pennsylvania they apperently do not open the external envelope until 7am on election day.
Here is a full list state by state.
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Trump tells federal agencies to cancel 'divisive' racial sensitivity training.

A memo obtained by The Washington Post and first reported by RealClear Politics instructs federal agencies to cancel contracts that teach employees America is an "inherently racist or evil country."

It's not clear what training programs the memo is referring to, or what their content is.
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The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is set to label white supremacists as the most serious terror threat facing the United States.

In three draft reports reviewed by Politico, DHS says the threat posed by white supremacists is more significant than the immediate danger from foreign terrorists.

Russia “probably will be the primary covert foreign influence actor and purveyor of disinformation and misinformation in the Homeland,” the documents also say.

None of the drafts POLITICO reviewed referred to a threat from Antifa, the loose cohort of militant left-leaning agitators who senior Trump administration officials have described as domestic terrorists.

John Cohen, who oversaw DHS’s counterterrorism portfolio from 2011 to 2014, said the most significant terror-related threat facing the US today comes from violent extremists who are motivated by white supremacy and other far-right ideological causes,” he said.
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In my opinion it is unlikely Trump will allow their publication with their conclusions on white supremacists and Russia.
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About time!

Trump bans 'anti-American' diversity training
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Marton beat you to it. And that will be overturned in January.
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Marton beat you to it. And that will be overturned in January.
Even if it is temporary, it's good to see someone stand up to Marxist conspiracy theories.
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