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Trump nominated for Nobel Prize
https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...prize-12067203


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The guy who nominated him, Christian Tybring-Gjedde, is a Norwegian politician who is on the far right and is very anti-immigration and anti-Muslim. So go figure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Tybring-Gjedde

It sounds like he would get along quite well with Anders Behring Breivik, the guy who shot all those kids in Norway in 2011.

"In 2010 [Christian Tybring-Gjedde] wrote that "we don't believe in multiculture" and claimed that immigration of non-ethnic Norwegians is "idiocy".[3] On climate change he has stated that "I don't believe in the climate hysteria".
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It sounds like he would get along quite well with Anders Behring Breivik, the guy who shot all those kids in Norway in 2011.

Wow. just wow.
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What scandal? His camp will see him as being prudent, everyone else will see it as business as usual. Lies, lies and even more lies.
Up to July he had exceeded 20,000 in 45 months. Then came the Convention.
You are probably correct.

I assume it was Trump's huge ego that caused him to talk on the record with Woodward, secure in the knowledge he could persuade Woodward he is the best president since Lincoln.
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You are probably correct.

I assume it was Trump's huge ego that caused him to talk on the record with Woodward, secure in the knowledge he could persuade Woodward he is the best president since Nixon.
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Wow. just wow.
Similar ideologies.

"Breivik is linked to a 1,518-page compendium entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence bearing the name "Andrew Berwick". The file was e-mailed to 1,003 addresses about 90 minutes before the bomb blast in Oslo. Analysts described him as having Islamophobic views and a hatred of Islam, and as someone who considered himself as a knight dedicated to stemming the tide of Muslim immigration into Europe.

The compendium contains his militant far-right ideology and xenophobic worldview, which espouses an array of political concepts; including support for varying degrees of cultural conservatism, right-wing populism, ultranationalism, Islamophobia, far-right Zionism, and Serbian paramilitarism. It regards Islam and "cultural Marxism" as the enemy and argues for the annihilation of "Eurabia" and multiculturalism, to preserve a Christian Europe."

While Christian Tybring-Gjedde himself has been described as one of the "main traffickers in extreme right-wing rhetorical tropes about Islam and Muslims" in Norway. He is also very strongly pro-Israel and had already received criticism after the 2011 attack(s) in Norway for his ideologies paralleling those of Breivik.
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Well, thank you for the compliment. At 10mph I doubt you would see a wake. The boat in the distance, at the front is likely doing around 10.
Obviously they have all the same speed, their relative positions don't change.
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Similar ideologies.
Not a fan of anybody apart from myself I happen to be centrist but I have a question for you, if someone does not like Islam and it's teachings do they automatically get classed as racist and far right?
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Not a fan of anybody apart from myself I happen to be centrist but I have a question for you, if someone does not like Islam and it's teachings do they automatically get classed as racist and far right?
Well, I don't like Islam, either. But I also don't like Christianity. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that I don't like Christianity even more since that is the religion that some people have tried to push on me throughout my life. However, I have met plenty of Muslims and Christians who are not violent people and who do not condone violence.
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Similar ideologies.

"Breivik is linked to a 1,518-page compendium entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence bearing the name "Andrew Berwick". The file was e-mailed to 1,003 addresses about 90 minutes before the bomb blast in Oslo. Analysts described him as having Islamophobic views and a hatred of Islam, and as someone who considered himself as a knight dedicated to stemming the tide of Muslim immigration into Europe.

The compendium contains his militant far-right ideology and xenophobic worldview, which espouses an array of political concepts; including support for varying degrees of cultural conservatism, right-wing populism, ultranationalism, Islamophobia, far-right Zionism, and Serbian paramilitarism. It regards Islam and "cultural Marxism" as the enemy and argues for the annihilation of "Eurabia" and multiculturalism, to preserve a Christian Europe."

While Christian Tybring-Gjedde himself has been described as one of the "main traffickers in extreme right-wing rhetorical tropes about Islam and Muslims" in Norway. He is also very strongly pro-Israel and had already received criticism after the 2011 attack(s) in Norway for his ideologies paralleling those of Breivik.

I might be a nitpicker, but there is this very subtle difference that one is a terrorist and a mass-murderer and the other is not.
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I might be a nitpicker, but there is this very subtle difference that one is a terrorist and a mass-murderer and the other is not.
As stated, I was referring to their ideologies.
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However, I have met plenty of Muslims and Christians who are not violent people and who do not condone violence.
When was the last time you felt any sort of physical threat from Christians in Western Europe? You could make jokes about Jesus all day and you would be safe.
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I have met plenty of Israelis who are not violent and extremelly friendly and peaceful. Did you see what I did there?

What is wrong with being pro Israel anyway?
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When was the last time you felt any sort of physical threat from Christians in Western Europe? You could make jokes about Jesus all day and you would be safe.
I have met plenty of Israelis who are not violent and extremelly friendly and peaceful. Did you see what I did there?

What is wrong with being pro Israel anyway?
Oh, Christians where I'm from threaten people in different ways... Like trying to demand that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry "because the Bible says so" and that women shouldn't have the freedom to decide for themselves whether or not they want to have a baby. Where I'm from in the US, if you admit that you're not a Christian, you are usually frowned upon and essentially equated with being "the devil" itself.

As for Israel... I'm neither for nor against it, really. However, I do not agree with its treatment of Palestinians.
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Oh, Christians where I'm from threaten people in different ways... Like trying to demand that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry "because the Bible says so" and that women shouldn't have the freedom to decide for themselves whether or not they want to have a baby. Where I'm from in the US, if you admit that you're not a Christian, you are usually frowned upon and essentially equated with being "the devil" itself.
You should convert to Islam, gays are held in high esteem and woman who don't want to have kids are not frowned upon I would take being equated to devil over actually being sent to meet the devil
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Not a fan of anybody apart from myself I happen to be centrist but I have a question for you, if someone does not like Islam and it's teachings do they automatically get classed as racist and far right?
No, they get classed as a member of one of the other 4,300 known religions

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When was the last time you felt any sort of physical threat from Christians in Western Europe?
Well last time I was in an English pub I got the "who are you looking at.." threat.
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No, they get classed as a member of one of the other 4,300 known religions
These days they don't. Question any PC narrative and you are classed as a racist, alt-right etc.
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Well last time I was in an English pub I got the "who are you looking at.." threat.
In the name of Christianity?
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That wasn’t your question.
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You should convert to Islam, gays are held in high esteem and woman who don't want to have kids are not frowned upon I would take being equated to devil over actually being sent to meet the devil
You're not making any sense. I already told you that I am not fond of either Christianity or Islam. However, if someone wants to have those beliefs, that is their right (they were most likely programmed into those beliefs anyways, via cultural conditioning). They should not have the right, however, to enforce those beliefs onto others or to use their religious beliefs to feel that it somehow automatically grants them righteousness.

I just noticed your other comment above (which I guess I had either missed earlier or perhaps you had later edited), with "I have met plenty of Israelis who are not violent and extremelly friendly and peaceful. Did you see what I did there?"

Yes, I do see what you did there. And I also have met plenty of Israelis who are not violent and who are peaceful. I never once said that I don't like Israelis. I said that I don't like the government of Israel's treatment of Palestinians.

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I already told you that I am not fond of either Christianity or Islam.
As an atheist neither am I but I see people on the left make excuses for one but come down hard on the other. Which I find very hypocritical.
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As an atheist neither am I but I see people on the left make excuses for one but come down hard on the other. Which I find very hypocritical.
Well, I see people on the right do that as well. e.g. Condemning Islam's treatment of women and yet using their own religion to try to justify the forcing of women to not have the right to determine whether or not they want to have a baby or gays to not be allowed to marry or using violence to justify their own agenda, etc. (for example, acts of violence committed by the far right). And I see a lot of people in the US, in particular, who label themselves as "Christians" and yet have never once read the Bible and who are racist, have no empathy for the poor, etc. I think it extends across all religions, most likely. There are good people and there are bad people, regardless of their religion. But I think that sometimes religion can very easily generate the illusion (delusion) of righteousness and cause people to feel justified in committing acts of violence due to their extreme ideologies.
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These days they don't. Question any PC narrative and you are classed as a racist, alt-right etc.
Stop reading nonsense and move to quality reporting.
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