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Only if he loses the 2020 election, or wins it and abolishes the two-term limit (Constitutional change).

Or he could avoid running for president ever again by simply declaring himself President for Life.
Changing the Constitution needs a lot more time than 4 years. Blue states wouldn’t support it, nor would many red states.
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Changing the Constitution needs a lot more time than 4 years. Blue states wouldn’t support it, nor would many red states.
My "suggestion" was a tiny bit tongue-in-cheek.

But the blue states would be good with the President for Life thing, wouldn't they?
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The point is, this kind of fraud can be used thanks to mail-in ballots and the way they're implemented in some states. The possibility wouldn't usually exist without mail-in ballots. This single case proves it's not just a theoretical possibility but real. That's all it takes to prove the validity Trump's statement.

And please prove that this was the only case.
Possible is not the same as probable
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My "suggestion" was a tiny bit tongue-in-cheek.

But the blue states would be good with the President for Life thing, wouldn't they?
Wouldn't a monarchy be more appropriate?
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Wouldn't a monarchy be more appropriate?
Right, good point! Monarchs have a lot more gold, jewels and general bling, don't they? And there'd be no problem with nepotism, as it's baked in to a monarchy anyway.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Really fun to watch "as long as you don't live in America".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw
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Brilliant, thanks
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

What a circus!
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COVID Stimulus negotiations: Trump signs off on a $1.8 trillion counter offer to Pelosi
So did the Dems accept this offer?
Answer: No but the GOP rejected it as well
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Senate Republicans on Saturday offered fierce pushback against the administration's latest coronavirus relief proposal during a call with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and White House chief of staff Mark Meadows.

Senate Republicans raised concerns about the $1.8 trillion price tag of the White House's latest offer to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), multiple sources familiar with the call told The Hill.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Smoke with, or without fire?
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A New York Times analysis of tax records showed that more than 200 companies, special-interest groups, and foreign governments have funneled millions of dollars to President Trump’s properties while reaping benefits from the president and his administration.
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Somehow that just does not surprise me.

And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why he's so desperate to be re-elected. He also has about $400 million in loans that are becoming due very soon.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Key dates coming up;

3 November 2029. US General Election. Voters select Congresspersons; some Senators (aprox 1/3) and their State’s ‘electors’. In most places, it takes officials days or weeks to fully canvass and then certify the results.

8 December 2020 Six days before the electoral colleges convene to vote, electoral colleges meet on what is known as the "safe harbor" deadline by which states must certify their results.

14 December 2020. On the second Monday after the second Wednesday in December, electors convene in all 50 states and the District of Columbia to formally cast their votes for president and vice president.

6 January 2021 The sitting Vice President, acting as the Senate president, presides over a joint session of Congress to read aloud the certificates cast by the electors representing all 50 states and D.C. to finalize the vote count. If no members of Congress object to any of the certificates in writing, the Senate president officially certifies the selection of the president-elect and vice president-elect.

20 January 2021 The president and vice president are formally inaugurated and sworn into office by the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

That is assuming there are no hiccoughs ...

21 January 2021. Donald J Trump Sr. declares bankruptcy.

Edited to add. “It ain’t over until the fat man sinks”

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Good summary (by someone who understands foreign policy) of yet another example of an absolutely headless administration.

https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/sta...07963629432834

Last five days —

Trump: All US troops home from Afghanistan by Christmas

National Security Advisor: 2,500 troops in Afghanistan next year

Chairman of Joint Chiefs: Nobody should speculate on numbers

US official (to NYT): “Oh my God!”

Taliban: Endorses Trump
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Key dates coming up;

3 November 2029. US General Election. Voters select Congresspersons; some Senators (aprox 1/3) and their State’s ‘electors’. In most places, it takes officials days or weeks to fully canvass and then certify the results.

8 December 2020 Six days before the electoral colleges convene to vote, electoral colleges meet on what is known as the "safe harbor" deadline by which states must certify their results.

14 December 2020. On the second Monday after the second Wednesday in December, electors convene in all 50 states and the District of Columbia to formally cast their votes for president and vice president.

6 January 2021 The sitting Vice President, acting as the Senate president, presides over a joint session of Congress to read aloud the certificates cast by the electors representing all 50 states and D.C. to finalize the vote count. If no members of Congress object to any of the certificates in writing, the Senate president officially certifies the selection of the president-elect and vice president-elect.

20 January 2021 The president and vice president are formally inaugurated and sworn into office by the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

That is assuming there are no hiccoughs ...

21 19 January 2021. Donald J Trump Sr. declares bankruptcy visits his bosom pal Kim in N. Korea which has no extradition treaty with the US.


Edited to add. “It ain’t over until the fat man sinks”
ftfy!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Do you really think Kim would welcome a has-been ex President?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Another downer for Donny
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The federal prosecutor Attorney General Bill Barr tapped to investigate whether Obama administration officials improperly requested the unmasking of individuals during the 2016 election has concluded his probe without “finding any substantive wrongdoing,” The Washington Post reported Tuesday.

President Trump and his allies have alleged that Obama-era officials acted improperly in making a series of unmasking requests that ultimately led to former Trump campaign aide Michael Flynn’s name being unmasked.

U.S. Attorney John Bash who led the probe announced that he would be leaving the Department of Justice (DOJ) on Oct. 5 without making any mention of the unmasking probe, but the Post reported that the move came after he had concluded his investigation.
No criminal charges were made, and a report of his findings will not be released publicly.
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Bash probably jumped ship before a disappointed Spanky fired him
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

An update

Key dates coming up;

3 November 2029. US General Election. Voters select Congresspersons; some Senators (aprox 1/3) and their State’s ‘electors’. In most places, it takes officials days or weeks to fully canvass and then certify the results.

8 December 2020 Six days before the electoral colleges convene to vote, electoral colleges meet on what is known as the "safe harbor" deadline by which states must certify their results.

14 December 2020. On the second Monday after the second Wednesday in December, electors convene in all 50 states and the District of Columbia to formally cast their votes for president and vice president.

6 January 2021 The sitting Vice President, acting as the Senate president, presides over a joint session of Congress to read aloud the certificates cast by the electors representing all 50 states and D.C. to finalize the vote count. If no members of Congress object to any of the certificates in writing, the Senate president officially certifies the selection of the president-elect and vice president-elect.

7 January 2021. Trump resigns; Pence is appointed President and promptly pardons Trump and his family members for all crimes committed over the last 70 years.

20 January 2021 The new president and vice president are formally inaugurated and sworn into office by the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

That is assuming there are no hiccoughs ...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

We really are living in Alice in Wonderland
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DOJ: Trump's 'total declassification' of Russiagate docs has no effect.
DOJ attorneys told a judge that the White House Counsel's Office effectively told DOJ to disregard Trump's tweets on the matter.

The tweets weren't accompanied by an actual declassification order, and DOJ will proceed as though the tweets hadn't occurred, continuing to redact and release documents at its discretion.
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Impotent President thrashing around and firing futile tweets in all directions; he has no cohesive strategy.
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From today’s NYT

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As the virus spread, private briefings from the Trump administration fueled a stock sell-off.

On the afternoon of Feb. 24, President Trump declared on Twitter that the coronavirus was “very much under control” in the United States, but hours earlier, senior members of the president’s economic team, privately addressing board members of the conservative Hoover Institution, were less confident.

Tomas J. Philipson, a senior economic adviser to the president, told the group he could not yet estimate the effects of the virus on the American economy. To some in the group, the implication was that an outbreak could prove worse than Mr. Philipson and other Trump administration advisers were signaling in public at the time.

The next day, board members — many of them Republican donors — got another taste of government uncertainty from Larry Kudlow, the director of the National Economic Council. Hours after he had boasted on CNBC that the virus was contained in the United States and “it’s pretty close to airtight,” Mr. Kudlow delivered a more ambiguous private message. He asserted that the virus was “contained in the U.S., to date, but now we just don’t know,” according to a document describing the sessions obtained by The New York Times.

The document, written by a hedge fund consultant who attended the three-day gathering of Hoover’s board, was stark. “What struck me,” the consultant wrote, was that nearly every official he heard from raised the virus “as a point of concern, totally unprovoked.”
The consultant’s assessment quickly spread through parts of the investment world. U.S. stocks were already spiraling because of a warning from a federal public health official that the virus was likely to spread, but traders spotted the immediate significance: The president’s aides appeared to be giving wealthy party donors an early warning of a potentially impactful contagion at a time when Mr. Trump was publicly insisting that the threat was nonexistent.

Interviews with eight people who either received copies of the memo or were briefed on aspects of it as it spread among investors in New York and elsewhere provide a glimpse of how elite traders had access to information from the administration that helped them gain financial advantage during a chaotic three days when global markets were teetering.

To many of the investors who received or heard about the memo, it was the first significant sign of skepticism among Trump administration officials about their ability to contain the virus. It also provided a hint of the fallout that was to come, said one major investor who was briefed on it: the upending of daily life for the entire country.

“Short everything,” was the reaction of the investor, using the Wall Street term for betting on the idea that the stock prices of companies would soon fall.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

More Alice in Wonderland!
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A federal judge -- sensing the White House may be overriding the orders of President Donald Trump as he flails against the Russia investigation -- has given the Justice Department five days to explain Trump's true wishes on declassifying all Mueller investigation documents.

Trump has said in tweets and other statements that he's declassified all records relating to the Russia investigation and Hillary Clinton's emails.

But the White House and Justice Department said this week those pronouncements didn't declassify the records.
Officials said they never received an order from the President or from Attorney General William Barr, who could also make public more information.
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Is it usual for US Presidents to be in public conflict with their own White House?
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Is it usual for US Presidents to be in public conflict with their own White House?
This is rather unique. But, we live in interesting times.
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