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It's not difficult to be nice with friends. It's more difficult and requires a degree of education that not everyone is in possession of, true, to be civil with the rest of the world. You know, Mexicans, immigrants, lefties, other people.
To be fair, it's no mean feat to alienate such a large number of groups of people. That takes very special skills.
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Trump had two out of his seven tweets today labelled as misleading, I agree with your proposal that anybody who scores so many such labels should be a candidate for banning same as in this forum.

No doubt you can inform us how the MSM outlets score?
Or are you making fact-free claims "they are masters of misinformation".
Yes, because what Twitter does and says is the ultimate truth. Additionally, Twitter sphere is full of only honest tweets. Apparently Kathy Griffin chopped Trump's head for the second time

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Same applies for the right come to think of it.
Yes, fully agree. Matching number of nut cases on the right too. The cancel culture though seems to be a left wing speciality.
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Yes, fully agree. Matching number of nut cases on the right too. The cancel culture though seems to be a left wing speciality.
I wonder if this American schizophrenia is a direct result of only having two, oppositely poled, political parties?
And I also think that perhaps it has sloshed over to Europe.
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I wonder if this American schizophrenia is a direct result of only having two, oppositely poled, political parties?
And I also think that perhaps it has sloshed over to Europe.
Yeah, I think that a two-party system easily generates polarization and binary thinking (aka "black and white thinking"), which is actually a cognitive distortion that causes generalizations and locks people into their cognitive biases. e.g. "All liberals are bad." "All conservatives are bad." And I think it's quite dangerous that the media (as well as some politicians) really seem to encourage that kind of distorted thinking. It seems to have become extremely bad in the past few decades (and especially in the past few years), and I think it's one of the reasons why so many Americans hate each other right now. I think that social media, in particular, has made it even worse.

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Yes, because what Twitter does and says is the ultimate truth. Additionally, Twitter sphere is full of only honest tweets. Apparently Kathy Griffin chopped Trump's head for the second time


Yes, fully agree. Matching number of nut cases on the right too. The cancel culture though seems to be a left wing speciality.
I do not know what sort of wings you have but I note you are unable to substantiate your claim that all MSM outlets are masters of misinformation.

Trump has tweeted again and was labelled "Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process."

Of course, when you can show that Twitter incorrectly labelled a Trump tweet as misleading then you would have a credible argument.
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I do not know what sort of wings you havebut I note you are unable to substantiate your claim that all MSM outlets are masters of misinformation.
I am a black, pro-abortion, pro gay rights, Atheist. I am definitely wingless and don't care about Trump or most of his followers but I do care that big tech has censorship bias. I would care the same if your Guardian reading ass was censored

So Kathy Griffin Tweets graphic blood drenched head of current president of the USA but Twitter thinks it is ok? Maybe as an experiment you should post one of Biden's head and see if they ban you. As I am not on any social platform, I leave you in charge of our social experiment

Regarding MSM, I am glad you fully trust MSM. I don't as most of them have their bias and are selective with what meets their agenda. So let us leave it at that and agree to disagree.
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I am a black, pro-abortion, pro gay rights, Atheist. I am definitely wingless and don't care about Trump or most of his followers but I do care that big tech has censorship bias. I would care the same if your Guardian reading ass was censored

So Kathy Griffin Tweets graphic blood drenched head of current president of the USA but Twitter thinks it is ok? Maybe as an experiment you should post one of Biden's head and see if they ban you. As I am not on any social platform, I leave you in charge of our social experiment

Regarding MSM, I am glad you fully trust MSM. I don't as most of them have their bias and are selective with what meets their agenda. So let us leave it at that and agree to disagree.
You claim you are not on any social platform but here you are on EF
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You claim you are not on any social platform but here you are on EF

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So Kathy Griffin Tweets graphic blood drenched head of current president of the USA but Twitter thinks it is ok?
At least she didn't lie.
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I am a black, pro-abortion, pro gay rights, Atheist. I am definitely wingless and don't care about Trump or most of his followers but I do care that big tech has censorship bias. I would care the same if your Guardian reading ass was censored

So Kathy Griffin Tweets graphic blood drenched head of current president of the USA but Twitter thinks it is ok? Maybe as an experiment you should post one of Biden's head and see if they ban you. As I am not on any social platform, I leave you in charge of our social experiment

Regarding MSM, I am glad you fully trust MSM. I don't as most of them have their bias and are selective with what meets their agenda. So let us leave it at that and agree to disagree.
Tbh I don't envy the job of the likes of twitter. I think they've broadly played well it allowing him to post (he is the president of the us - and thus what he says even if ridiculous is of public interest) but putting health warnings to his posts that are indisputably factually wrong.

Id like the "censorship" to remain limited to the truly indisputably wrong. For example him saying "I've done a great job with coronavirus" should be allowed whilst saying "only 50 people have died of Covid" should be labelled.
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So, to summarise.

No, no he wasn't
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No, no he wasn't
I think it all depends if he leaves graciously.

I suspect he won’t.
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No, no he wasn't
He didn't nuke any country and we are all still alive. That makes him better than expected
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He didn't nuke any country and we are all still alive. That makes him better than expected
I wonder how things would have escalated if Iran hadn´t calmed thing down after Trump had Soleimani whacked.
Methinks that was a Pompeo wanting a war kind of brainfart and Trump was the enabler.
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I read earlier that once Trump is no longer President, Twitter may ban him. I guess they've previously been unable to do that because, according to their own rules, accounts of "current holders of public office" cannot be removed.

Trump could be banned from Twitter after he leaves office, company's rules indicate
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He didn't nuke any country and we are all still alive. That makes him better than expected
Same as every president since Truman then. "Better than expected" is a long way from "good" when the bar was this low.
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I think it all depends if he leaves graciously.

I suspect he won’t.
Seriously? You want to write off the last 4 years and make your decision based on the next two and a half months?
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I wonder how things would have escalated if Iran hadn´t calmed thing down after Trump had Soleimani whacked.
Methinks that was a Pompeo wanting a war kind of brainfart and Trump was the enabler.
That was the beauty of Trump's game of chicken: Neither Kim nor the Mullahs in Iran could ever be so sure that he wouldn't press "the button".
Mostly, he was all words and no action - but killing Soleimani was a strong message that nobody should be too sure of that.

And after all, Soleimani wasn't that popular anyway - and they literally shot themselves in the foot by taking down that passenger plane.

Doubtlessly though, Iran will never forget this.

We will see how Biden fares.
Granted, it's not the easiest legacy. But at least, he doesn't inherit any new wars. Those he inherits, he can blame directly on Obama.

I'm very pessimistic. Biden is too weak and probably too confused.
Watch the rise of the whisperers and "interpreters" who translate his increasingly confused ramblings.
Likely, Harris will end up sholdering most of the day-to-day duties in a short time. Being President is an awfully demanding job. Nothing you wish for a 70-something slowly sliding into dementia.
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He didn't nuke any country and we are all still alive. That makes him better than expected
Unless you are/were a brown or black skinned civilian
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I read earlier that once Trump is no longer President, Twitter may ban him. I guess they've previously been unable to do that because, according to their own rules, accounts of "current holders of public office" cannot be removed.

Trump could be banned from Twitter after he leaves office, company's rules indicate
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1620154.html

They can do that. But at the end of the day, they need people who open the app.

People won't do (or that often) that if it's a boring SJW/BLM/whatever echo-chamber there, with only "good" people posting about their gender-equality achievements every other hour.

There's only so many meme-reposts one can stomach ...

You could very well argue that Trump himself has kept Twitter alive and relevant in the last four years. They might already have gone under if he had not become President (and his voice that relevant).
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