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Old 03.12.2020, 14:17
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I do not know if I find this tweet is funny or sad.

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“Democrats suffered crushing down-ballot loss across America.” @nytimes.
This is true.
All statehouses won, and in Washington we did great.
So I led this great charge, and I’m the only one that lost?
No, it doesn’t work that way. This was a massive fraud, a RIGGED ELECTION!
Probably this tweet will be quoted in future analyses of Trump's presidency as an example of how he was unable to accept he was unpopular and lost.
The same logic applies in reverse, of course:

"I lost to my Democrat opponent by a large margin in the popular vote and in the Electoral College.

"Yet the Democrats lost in all the statehouses, and in Washington they did really badly.*

"No, it doesn’t work that way. If the Democrats rigged the presidential election, why didn't they continue their MASSIVE FRAUD and RIG ALL THE OTHER ELCTIONS too?"



*I actually have no idea what Trump is talking about in his tweet. The Republicans won "all the statehouses"? What does that even mean? And they "did great" in Washington? Certainly not in any vote in DC, the bluest of all regions; not in the Senate, where the Democrats may increase their numbers. A small improvement in the House for the Republicans, but they're still in the minority. Is that what he means by "did great"? Does that definition of "great" apply to "Make America Great Again", too?
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The Supreme Court on Thursday sided with a California ministry that argued the state's Covid-related restrictions on indoor services violated its religious liberty rights, the court's second such ruling on pandemic guidelines for churches in two weeks.
Like Trump, religious leaders seem to have little interest in protecting their followers from the disease.

Meanwhile seems to be getting hotter for Ivanka
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The D.C. attorney general in January sued the Trump Organization and the Presidential Inauguration Committee (PIC), accusing the groups of misusing more than $1 million raised by the committee by “grossly overpaying” to use event space at the Trump hotel in D.C. for the 2017 inauguration.
President Trump said Thursday he is disappointed in Attorney General William Barr for saying that the Justice Department had not uncovered evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election.

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“He hasn’t done anything, so he hasn’t looked"

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Meanwhile seems to be getting hotter for Ivanka
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The D.C. attorney general in January sued the Trump Organization and the Presidential Inauguration Committee (PIC), accusing the groups of misusing more than $1 million raised by the committee by “grossly overpaying” to use event space at the Trump hotel in D.C. for the 2017 inauguration.
Washington, D.C., Attorney General Karl Racine said on Thursday that Ivanka Trump was “highly misleading” in her deposition regarding an investigation into her father’s inauguration.

Racine said during an interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow that the committee paid $175,000 for the space in Trump Hotel adding that for the Presidential Prayer Breakfast, it cost just $5,000 for the same space. “$175,000 charged to the inauguration committee, $5,000 charged for another not-for-profit. Doesn’t sound like a ‘fair market rate’ to me.”
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Washington, D.C., Attorney General Karl Racine said on Thursday that Ivanka Trump was “highly misleading” in her deposition regarding an investigation into her father’s inauguration.

Racine said during an interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow that the committee paid $175,000 for the space in Trump Hotel adding that for the Presidential Prayer Breakfast, it cost just $5,000 for the same space. “$175,000 charged to the inauguration committee, $5,000 charged for another not-for-profit. Doesn’t sound like a ‘fair market rate’ to me.”
Thugs, all of them.
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Like Trump, religious leaders seem to have little interest in protecting their followers from the disease.
Without comment on whether its appropriate for churches to be allowed to open (I'm an atheist who struggles to care one way or the other), I do think its important to have some constitutional boundaries on civil liberties that governments cannot cross.

It's pretty scary how some (not all) governments have behaved in this pandemic. Whilst I for sure can understand shutting bars, restaurants and gyms as effective and proportionate measures to combat a dangerous disease, its important to look at the way the likes of Spain and France have behaved - limiting or even banning people from going outdoors etc.

In my view, the latter should be constitutionally illegal. Are there any protections for our rights in Europe? Is this something the ECHR could deal with (Article 5?)? If not, why not?

As there hasn't been this kind of crisis in a century I understand if we haven't gotten this sorted before now - but I think we need very serious conversations after this is all done.
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In our case, Swiss law applies. And our Constitution prevails.
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Washington, D.C., Attorney General Karl Racine said on Thursday that Ivanka Trump was “highly misleading” in her deposition regarding an investigation into her father’s inauguration.

Racine said during an interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow that the committee paid $175,000 for the space in Trump Hotel adding that for the Presidential Prayer Breakfast, it cost just $5,000 for the same space. “$175,000 charged to the inauguration committee, $5,000 charged for another not-for-profit. Doesn’t sound like a ‘fair market rate’ to me.”
You can't tell which of these two was highly unusual, this will also depend on the additional services rendered. The real "measure" is what others, preferably for-profits, got charged for.
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Old 06.12.2020, 22:35
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump just tweeted Giuliani has the coronavirus.

Hopefully, Trump will take the opportunity to cease with his stupid election legal cases.
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Trump just tweeted Giuliani has the coronavirus.

Hopefully, Trump will take the opportunity to cease with his stupid election legal cases.
Wow... You're right. I just checked the headlines.

I was reading through the comments section on one article about it and came across this one:

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Activist snowflake judges are trying to grab remaining opportunities at free media coverage. Likely to further their career or inflated egos. With Trump era passing the opportunities for virtue signaling and stupid activism on Rachel Madoff or MSNBS will become scant at best.
They can still bring a bullshit lawsuit or two before their voices become drown out by a crowd of professional victims and alphabet people.
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Activist snowflake judges are trying to grab remaining opportunities at free media coverage. Likely to further their career or inflated egos. With Trump era passing the opportunities for virtue signaling and stupid activism on Rachel Madoff or MSNBS will become scant at best.
They can still bring a bullshit lawsuit or two before their voices become drown out by a crowd of professional victims and alphabet people.
I was actually just wondering the other day... If the Holocaust was happening today and we were in Germany, would anyone speaking out against it be accused of "virtue signalling?"

Just curious.
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Activist snowflake judges are trying to grab remaining opportunities at free media coverage. Likely to further their career or inflated egos. With Trump era passing the opportunities for virtue signaling and stupid activism on Rachel Madoff or MSNBS will become scant at best.
They can still bring a bullshit lawsuit or two before their voices become drown out by a crowd of professional victims and alphabet people.
Another incomprehensible post, are you now claiming the judges will bring lawsuits?
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I was actually just wondering the other day... If the Holocaust was happening today and we were in Germany, would anyone speaking out against it be accused of "virtue signalling?"

Just curious.
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i was actually just wondering the other day... If the holocaust was happening today and we were in germany, would anyone speaking out against it be accused of "virtue signalling?"

just curious.
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Okay then, can someone please clarify when exactly it IS okay for someone to express that they are against something and/or have some degree of integrity or moral standards without it being "virtue signalling," because I find it rather confusing. What exactly is the protocol on that?

If someone disagrees with your views, then it's deemed "virtue signalling," but if it's something they do agree with, then it's not? Is that how that works?

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You just took what I had written completely out of context and exaggerated it into being something entirely different from what it is.

Maybe you need to consider who the real "emotional child" is?

Cheers.
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You just took what I had written completely out of context and exaggerated it into being something entirely different from what it is.

Maybe you need to consider who the real "emotional child" is?

Cheers.
I just thought it is funny and largely true about liberals who like to exaggerate and feign an outrage...Bringing Hitler and holocaust to make mundane argument is one of the signs of VS disorder...It has been used over and over by the liberal talking heads in US.
I still find it amusing that they think it is effective line of reasoning...
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I was actually just wondering the other day... If the Holocaust was happening today and we were in Germany, would anyone speaking out against it be accused of "virtue signalling?"

Just curious.
If the Holocaust were happening today in Germany, and we were speaking out against it as Germans, we’d probably be carted off to a camp.

If it were happening and we were speaking out as non Germans, I’d hope not, I’d hope it would not be ignored. But, who knows?

I don’t know that this is a comparison I’d use, but what interests me is how non Germans would react today.
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I just thought it is funny and largely true about liberals who like to exaggerate and feign an outrage...Bringing Hitler and holocaust to make mundane argument is one of the signs of VS disorder...It has been used over and over by the liberal talking heads in US.
I still find it amusing that they think it is effective line of reasoning...
"Versus" what disorder?

Meanwhile, did I ever post "you could not make this stuff up"

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The two chambers of the Arizona state legislature will suspend their work this week after former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani tested positive for the coronavirus less than a week after spending hours testifying in front of Republican legislators in a futile bid to overturn the state’s election results.

Spokespeople for the state House and Senate confirmed to The Hill Sunday that the two chambers would cancel their planned meetings this week because of concerns over the spread of the coronavirus.

n Arizona, Giuliani spent almost ten hours with Republican legislators at a Phoenix hotel on Monday.
He appeared without a mask, and at one point he even asked a fellow witness to remove her mask while he was sitting less than six feet away.

At least nine state lawmakers and two members of Congress — Reps. Paul Gosar (R) and Andy Biggs (R) — attended the session, according to the Arizona Republic.
The members posed for a group photograph tweeted out by the Arizona Republican Party, without a mask in sight.
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So effectively destroying any lingering Trump fantasies about Arizona destroying the electoral college Dec 14th decisions.
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I just thought it is funny and largely true about liberals who like to exaggerate and feign an outrage...Bringing Hitler and holocaust to make mundane argument is one of the signs of VS disorder...It has been used over and over by the liberal talking heads in US.
I still find it amusing that they think it is effective line of reasoning...
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If the Holocaust were happening today in Germany, and we were speaking out against it as Germans, we’d probably be carted off to a camp.

If it were happening and we were speaking out as non Germans, I’d hope not, I’d hope it would not be ignored. But, who knows?

Am I the only one to see the slight irony in how diametrically opposed BoredToDeath's and Ennui's posts are (in general), with nearly the same nickname?

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I just thought it is funny and largely true about liberals who like to exaggerate and feign an outrage...[...]It has been used over and over by the liberal talking heads in US.
Generalizing much, putting every liberal in the same bag? Isn't it equivalent to saying that every conservative is a racist bigot gun-toting hick, who politizices a topic that should be addressed mostly by medical experts?
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